2nd round options for Crown/Damascus HS?

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To be honest, I think this round is much better. I’m not saying there’s no articulation, but it’s definitely much less.

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest, I think this round is much better. I’m not saying there’s no articulation, but it’s definitely much less.

Agreed

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest, I think this round is much better. I’m not saying there’s no articulation, but it’s definitely much less.

I agree. The options in this round are way more reasonable. I hope they only fine tune these options and no surprises for next round.

[Anonymous]

Indeed, these options make way more sense...more than even the current boundaries in my opinion. Very pleased.

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And it seems like they did use community input which is pleasantly surprising.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it like the Woodward options where they try to keep the richer schools happy at the expense of the poorer schools?

But of course! Can’t have Churchill and Wooton feeling less special than BCC and Whitman!

There is no need to disturb Churchill and Wootton for a high school built to alleviate other schools overcrowding.

No, the new options mingle a lot of split articulation and re-assignment of ESs between Wootton and Churchill. So they will fight each other. Dufief and part of Fallsmead are splitting out from Wootton to Crown, which is really bad news for those two ESs.

No, dufief going to Crown all options

Yet realtors are still advertising Wootton in listings…

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/11120-Rutledge-Dr-Gaithersburg-MD-20878/37153332_zpid/

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Anonymous wrote:Region 4 is so strong with many strong academic kids and programs. There are a ton of Asians and whites there. It is quite unfair in terms of equity compared to other regions.

More Asian than white. Wootton is now majority Asian and has been experiencing white flight in the recent years to the point where it will have less white students than even many DCC schools. I know a lot of white peoples who have complained “Wootton is too competitive” (read: Asian) and moved to other areas.

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Anonymous wrote:Region 4 is so strong with many strong academic kids and programs. There are a ton of Asians and whites there. It is quite unfair in terms of equity compared to other regions.

More Asian than white. Wootton is now majority Asian and has been experiencing white flight in the recent years to the point where it will have less white students than even many DCC schools. I know a lot of white peoples who have complained “Wootton is too competitive” (read: Asian) and moved to other areas.

You don’t complain about majority of the MCPS schools have white as minorities now. Only Asians.

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QO sees a massive decline in FARMS.

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest, I think this round is much better. I’m not saying there’s no articulation, but it’s definitely much less.

I agree. The options in this round are way more reasonable. I hope they only fine tune these options and no surprises for next round.

Agree very much overall this is much better than the first time. I remember the first set of options had quite a few one school to three or four split articulations. There were also some double splits with 3+ in one of the two splits. Very few islands that I could see in these whereas previously there were a ton around crown.

Things I’ve noticed in this set of options that could use fixing include;
- Ritchie Park elementary school would go to Frost and then RM and be the only school from frost going there
- I think one option has a ridiculously large and oddly shaped boundary for Churchill, which goes all the way up to near Darnestown meanwhile removing some pockets down nearby the school
- seems like a lot of split articulations in the Churchill Wootten and Richard Montgomery clusters at the middle school level when it seems like a lot of times the entire school could just stay together through the whole time.
- there’s a little pocket that looks like it belongs at Wooton, but is at RM. I think I thought to myself if that’s the area that’s going to frost and then back to RM why not just send those people to Wootten

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest, I think this round is much better. I’m not saying there’s no articulation, but it’s definitely much less.

I agree. The options in this round are way more reasonable. I hope they only fine tune these options and no surprises for next round.

Agree very much overall this is much better than the first time. I remember the first set of options had quite a few one school to three or four split articulations. There were also some double splits with 3+ in one of the two splits. Very few islands that I could see in these whereas previously there were a ton around crown.

Things I’ve noticed in this set of options that could use fixing include;
- Ritchie Park elementary school would go to Frost and then RM and be the only school from frost going there
- I think one option has a ridiculously large and oddly shaped boundary for Churchill, which goes all the way up to near Darnestown meanwhile removing some pockets down nearby the school
- seems like a lot of split articulations in the Churchill Wootten and Richard Montgomery clusters at the middle school level when it seems like a lot of times the entire school could just stay together through the whole time.
- there’s a little pocket that looks like it belongs at Wooton, but is at RM. I think I thought to myself if that’s the area that’s going to frost and then back to RM why not just send those people to Wootten

How does one fix the split articulations at Churchill, Wootten and RM without essentially just removing them from the study?

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest, I think this round is much better. I’m not saying there’s no articulation, but it’s definitely much less.

I agree. The options in this round are way more reasonable. I hope they only fine tune these options and no surprises for next round.

Agree very much overall this is much better than the first time. I remember the first set of options had quite a few one school to three or four split articulations. There were also some double splits with 3+ in one of the two splits. Very few islands that I could see in these whereas previously there were a ton around crown.

Things I’ve noticed in this set of options that could use fixing include;
- Ritchie Park elementary school would go to Frost and then RM and be the only school from frost going there
- I think one option has a ridiculously large and oddly shaped boundary for Churchill, which goes all the way up to near Darnestown meanwhile removing some pockets down nearby the school
- seems like a lot of split articulations in the Churchill Wootten and Richard Montgomery clusters at the middle school level when it seems like a lot of times the entire school could just stay together through the whole time.
- there’s a little pocket that looks like it belongs at Wooton, but is at RM. I think I thought to myself if that’s the area that’s going to frost and then back to RM why not just send those people to Wootten

How’d Ritchie Park think about staying entirely to Frost then Wootton, so (1) RM won’t be overutilized as the current RMIB students are not included in the calculation nor future projection; (2) that Wayside and Potomac ES can stay unchanged? In this way you may get the broad support as Wayside and Potomac ES doesn’t need to fight each other?

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest, I think this round is much better. I’m not saying there’s no articulation, but it’s definitely much less.

I agree. The options in this round are way more reasonable. I hope they only fine tune these options and no surprises for next round.

Agree very much overall this is much better than the first time. I remember the first set of options had quite a few one school to three or four split articulations. There were also some double splits with 3+ in one of the two splits. Very few islands that I could see in these whereas previously there were a ton around crown.

Things I’ve noticed in this set of options that could use fixing include;
- Ritchie Park elementary school would go to Frost and then RM and be the only school from frost going there
- I think one option has a ridiculously large and oddly shaped boundary for Churchill, which goes all the way up to near Darnestown meanwhile removing some pockets down nearby the school
- seems like a lot of split articulations in the Churchill Wootten and Richard Montgomery clusters at the middle school level when it seems like a lot of times the entire school could just stay together through the whole time.
- there’s a little pocket that looks like it belongs at Wooton, but is at RM. I think I thought to myself if that’s the area that’s going to frost and then back to RM why not just send those people to Wootten

How’d Ritchie Park think about staying entirely to Frost then Wootton, so (1) RM won’t be overutilized as the current RMIB students are not included in the calculation nor future projection; (2) that Wayside and Potomac ES can stay unchanged? In this way you may get the broad support as Wayside and Potomac ES doesn’t need to fight each other?

The only issue is that Churchill is overcrowded. They should’ve just combine the two studies and switch some Churchill students to Whitman then everyone is happy.

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest, I think this round is much better. I’m not saying there’s no articulation, but it’s definitely much less.

I agree. The options in this round are way more reasonable. I hope they only fine tune these options and no surprises for next round.

Agree very much overall this is much better than the first time. I remember the first set of options had quite a few one school to three or four split articulations. There were also some double splits with 3+ in one of the two splits. Very few islands that I could see in these whereas previously there were a ton around crown.

Things I’ve noticed in this set of options that could use fixing include;
- Ritchie Park elementary school would go to Frost and then RM and be the only school from frost going there
- I think one option has a ridiculously large and oddly shaped boundary for Churchill, which goes all the way up to near Darnestown meanwhile removing some pockets down nearby the school
- seems like a lot of split articulations in the Churchill Wootten and Richard Montgomery clusters at the middle school level when it seems like a lot of times the entire school could just stay together through the whole time.
- there’s a little pocket that looks like it belongs at Wooton, but is at RM. I think I thought to myself if that’s the area that’s going to frost and then back to RM why not just send those people to Wootten

How does one fix the split articulations at Churchill, Wootten and RM without essentially just removing them from the study?

Not the prior poster but as someone who is in the area who’s kids graduated over the past five years from Churchill and RMIB (BFES), it’s definitely a challenge because you’ve got essentially four middle schools for three high schools. So there’s not a really good way to split up things but historically for a long time Cabin John MS was the only school to have a split to high school within the three clusters. There haven’t been any ES to MS or ES to two HS splits. Now that looks like it will be all but Julius West that split from MS to HS and all of the MS will have splits from ES.

I think it’s interesting how they’ve done it largely geographically. I’d estimate most of the things make sense with the exception of the points the prior poster made. Also with the ES splitting to MS and then in many cases returning together for HS, seems like that’s an easy fix. Geographically for Churchill and Wootton options C and D look to make the most sense as they are the most compact and squared off if that makes sense? Ritchie Park does seem like it would make more sense for Wootton.

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest, I think this round is much better. I’m not saying there’s no articulation, but it’s definitely much less.

I agree. The options in this round are way more reasonable. I hope they only fine tune these options and no surprises for next round.

Agree very much overall this is much better than the first time. I remember the first set of options had quite a few one school to three or four split articulations. There were also some double splits with 3+ in one of the two splits. Very few islands that I could see in these whereas previously there were a ton around crown.

Things I’ve noticed in this set of options that could use fixing include;
- Ritchie Park elementary school would go to Frost and then RM and be the only school from frost going there
- I think one option has a ridiculously large and oddly shaped boundary for Churchill, which goes all the way up to near Darnestown meanwhile removing some pockets down nearby the school
- seems like a lot of split articulations in the Churchill Wootten and Richard Montgomery clusters at the middle school level when it seems like a lot of times the entire school could just stay together through the whole time.
- there’s a little pocket that looks like it belongs at Wooton, but is at RM. I think I thought to myself if that’s the area that’s going to frost and then back to RM why not just send those people to Wootten

How’d Ritchie Park think about staying entirely to Frost then Wootton, so (1) RM won’t be overutilized as the current RMIB students are not included in the calculation nor future projection; (2) that Wayside and Potomac ES can stay unchanged? In this way you may get the broad support as Wayside and Potomac ES doesn’t need to fight each other?

The only issue is that Churchill is overcrowded. They should’ve just combine the two studies and switch some Churchill students to Whitman then everyone is happy.

Churchill is marginal, much less than their computed numbers. Wayside PTA had pointed their computational errors in the last round, and Flo didn’t make any changes this round.