2nd round options for Crown/Damascus HS?

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest, I think this round is much better. I’m not saying there’s no articulation, but it’s definitely much less.

I agree. The options in this round are way more reasonable. I hope they only fine tune these options and no surprises for next round.

Then keep commenting this time and make your voice louder.
Agree very much overall this is much better than the first time. I remember the first set of options had quite a few one school to three or four split articulations. There were also some double splits with 3+ in one of the two splits. Very few islands that I could see in these whereas previously there were a ton around crown.

Things I’ve noticed in this set of options that could use fixing include;
- Ritchie Park elementary school would go to Frost and then RM and be the only school from frost going there
- I think one option has a ridiculously large and oddly shaped boundary for Churchill, which goes all the way up to near Darnestown meanwhile removing some pockets down nearby the school
- seems like a lot of split articulations in the Churchill Wootten and Richard Montgomery clusters at the middle school level when it seems like a lot of times the entire school could just stay together through the whole time.
- there’s a little pocket that looks like it belongs at Wooton, but is at RM. I think I thought to myself if that’s the area that’s going to frost and then back to RM why not just send those people to Wootten

How’d Ritchie Park think about staying entirely to Frost then Wootton, so (1) RM won’t be overutilized as the current RMIB students are not included in the calculation nor future projection; (2) that Wayside and Potomac ES can stay unchanged? In this way you may get the broad support as Wayside and Potomac ES doesn’t need to fight each other?

The only issue is that Churchill is overcrowded. They should’ve just combine the two studies and switch some Churchill students to Whitman then everyone is happy.

Churchill is marginal, much less than their computed numbers. Wayside PTA had pointed their computational errors in the last round, and Flo didn’t make any changes this round.

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Anonymous wrote:Region 4 is so strong with many strong academic kids and programs. There are a ton of Asians and whites there. It is quite unfair in terms of equity compared to other regions.

More Asian than white. Wootton is now majority Asian and has been experiencing white flight in the recent years to the point where it will have less white students than even many DCC schools. I know a lot of white peoples who have complained “Wootton is too competitive” (read: Asian) and moved to other areas.

Utter BS
Racist POS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest, I think this round is much better. I’m not saying there’s no articulation, but it’s definitely much less.

I agree. The options in this round are way more reasonable. I hope they only fine tune these options and no surprises for next round.

Agree very much overall this is much better than the first time. I remember the first set of options had quite a few one school to three or four split articulations. There were also some double splits with 3+ in one of the two splits. Very few islands that I could see in these whereas previously there were a ton around crown.

Things I’ve noticed in this set of options that could use fixing include;
- Ritchie Park elementary school would go to Frost and then RM and be the only school from frost going there
- I think one option has a ridiculously large and oddly shaped boundary for Churchill, which goes all the way up to near Darnestown meanwhile removing some pockets down nearby the school
- seems like a lot of split articulations in the Churchill Wootten and Richard Montgomery clusters at the middle school level when it seems like a lot of times the entire school could just stay together through the whole time.
- there’s a little pocket that looks like it belongs at Wooton, but is at RM. I think I thought to myself if that’s the area that’s going to frost and then back to RM why not just send those people to Wootten

How’d Ritchie Park think about staying entirely to Frost then Wootton, so (1) RM won’t be overutilized as the current RMIB students are not included in the calculation nor future projection; (2) that Wayside and Potomac ES can stay unchanged? In this way you may get the broad support as Wayside and Potomac ES doesn’t need to fight each other?

The only issue is that Churchill is overcrowded. They should’ve just combine the two studies and switch some Churchill students to Whitman then everyone is happy.

Yes I think the prior idea makes sense but this problem arises.

Agreed seems like areas near Montgomery Mall should go to WJ, especially with them leaving WJ under crowded and Avenel makes no sense when it should go to Whitman.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Region 4 is so strong with many strong academic kids and programs. There are a ton of Asians and whites there. It is quite unfair in terms of equity compared to other regions.

More Asian than white. Wootton is now majority Asian and has been experiencing white flight in the recent years to the point where it will have less white students than even many DCC schools. I know a lot of white peoples who have complained “Wootton is too competitive” (read: Asian) and moved to other areas.

There are only a few schools in this county where Asians are not a minority. Why can’t Asian families simply enjoy living in communities they choose naturally, without being penalized for it? Forcing every school to limit Asian enrollment through boundary redistricting feels like a form of racial discrimination.

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Options C& D do make more sense geographically for Churchill
Option B has kids from Bells Mill - who live literally next to or across street from Cabin John, moving to Hoover, while kids from Travilah bus past Hoover (& Frost?) to get to cabin John. Why not just leave all of bells mill at cabin John - the entire elementary school zone surrounds cabin John!

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest, I think this round is much better. I’m not saying there’s no articulation, but it’s definitely much less.

I agree. The options in this round are way more reasonable. I hope they only fine tune these options and no surprises for next round.

Agree very much overall this is much better than the first time. I remember the first set of options had quite a few one school to three or four split articulations. There were also some double splits with 3+ in one of the two splits. Very few islands that I could see in these whereas previously there were a ton around crown.

Things I’ve noticed in this set of options that could use fixing include;
- Ritchie Park elementary school would go to Frost and then RM and be the only school from frost going there
- I think one option has a ridiculously large and oddly shaped boundary for Churchill, which goes all the way up to near Darnestown meanwhile removing some pockets down nearby the school
- seems like a lot of split articulations in the Churchill Wootten and Richard Montgomery clusters at the middle school level when it seems like a lot of times the entire school could just stay together through the whole time.
- there’s a little pocket that looks like it belongs at Wooton, but is at RM. I think I thought to myself if that’s the area that’s going to frost and then back to RM why not just send those people to Wootten

How does one fix the split articulations at Churchill, Wootten and RM without essentially just removing them from the study?

Not the prior poster but as someone who is in the area who’s kids graduated over the past five years from Churchill and RMIB (BFES), it’s definitely a challenge because you’ve got essentially four middle schools for three high schools. So there’s not a really good way to split up things but historically for a long time Cabin John MS was the only school to have a split to high school within the three clusters. There haven’t been any ES to MS or ES to two HS splits. Now that looks like it will be all but Julius West that split from MS to HS and all of the MS will have splits from ES.

I think it’s interesting how they’ve done it largely geographically. I’d estimate most of the things make sense with the exception of the points the prior poster made. Also with the ES splitting to MS and then in many cases returning together for HS, seems like that’s an easy fix. Geographically for Churchill and Wootton options C and D look to make the most sense as they are the most compact and squared off if that makes sense? Ritchie Park does seem like it would make more sense for Wootton.

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I am just glad they kept Seneca valley under 3000 students in this 2nd round of options

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest, I think this round is much better. I’m not saying there’s no articulation, but it’s definitely much less.

I agree. The options in this round are way more reasonable. I hope they only fine tune these options and no surprises for next round.

Agree very much overall this is much better than the first time. I remember the first set of options had quite a few one school to three or four split articulations. There were also some double splits with 3+ in one of the two splits. Very few islands that I could see in these whereas previously there were a ton around crown.

Things I’ve noticed in this set of options that could use fixing include;
- Ritchie Park elementary school would go to Frost and then RM and be the only school from frost going there
- I think one option has a ridiculously large and oddly shaped boundary for Churchill, which goes all the way up to near Darnestown meanwhile removing some pockets down nearby the school
- seems like a lot of split articulations in the Churchill Wootten and Richard Montgomery clusters at the middle school level when it seems like a lot of times the entire school could just stay together through the whole time.
- there’s a little pocket that looks like it belongs at Wooton, but is at RM. I think I thought to myself if that’s the area that’s going to frost and then back to RM why not just send those people to Wootten

The solution is to also change the ES boundaries

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To be honest, I think this round is much better. I’m not saying there’s no articulation, but it’s definitely much less.

I agree. The options in this round are way more reasonable. I hope they only fine tune these options and no surprises for next round.

Agree very much overall this is much better than the first time. I remember the first set of options had quite a few one school to three or four split articulations. There were also some double splits with 3+ in one of the two splits. Very few islands that I could see in these whereas previously there were a ton around crown.

Things I’ve noticed in this set of options that could use fixing include;
- Ritchie Park elementary school would go to Frost and then RM and be the only school from frost going there
- I think one option has a ridiculously large and oddly shaped boundary for Churchill, which goes all the way up to near Darnestown meanwhile removing some pockets down nearby the school
- seems like a lot of split articulations in the Churchill Wootten and Richard Montgomery clusters at the middle school level when it seems like a lot of times the entire school could just stay together through the whole time.
- there’s a little pocket that looks like it belongs at Wooton, but is at RM. I think I thought to myself if that’s the area that’s going to frost and then back to RM why not just send those people to Wootten

The solution is to also change the ES boundaries

That's coming up next.

[Anonymous]

In Option B almost the entire work zone to Hallie Wells MS reassigned to Rocky Hill MS, even the houses acrosss fhe street to Hallie Wells. R they out of thier mind? This in sane!

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Anonymous wrote:In Option B almost the entire work zone to Hallie Wells MS reassigned to Rocky Hill MS, even the houses acrosss fhe street to Hallie Wells. R they out of thier mind? This in sane!

I don’t follow.

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Anonymous wrote:Region 4 is so strong with many strong academic kids and programs. There are a ton of Asians and whites there. It is quite unfair in terms of equity compared to other regions.

More Asian than white. Wootton is now majority Asian and has been experiencing white flight in the recent years to the point where it will have less white students than even many DCC schools. I know a lot of white peoples who have complained “Wootton is too competitive” (read: Asian) and moved to other areas.

There are only a few schools in this county where Asians are not a minority. Why can’t Asian families simply enjoy living in communities they choose naturally, without being penalized for it? Forcing every school to limit Asian enrollment through boundary redistricting feels like a form of racial discrimination.

It is true that schools with large Asian populations tend to be uber competitive, so if you are a smart kid (any race, even Asian) who doesn't push the limit with over a dozen APs, your chances for matriculating to a T20 college diminish significantly. We moved our kid out of public years ago into a very strong private with 20% of students matriculating to T20 schools. She will certainly be one of them with her GPA and test scores, despite the fact she will have taken a total of 6 APs by the end of HS. She would not have as high of a chance at Wootton.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be honest, I think this round is much better. I’m not saying there’s no articulation, but it’s definitely much less.

I agree. The options in this round are way more reasonable. I hope they only fine tune these options and no surprises for next round.

Agree very much overall this is much better than the first time. I remember the first set of options had quite a few one school to three or four split articulations. There were also some double splits with 3+ in one of the two splits. Very few islands that I could see in these whereas previously there were a ton around crown.

Things I’ve noticed in this set of options that could use fixing include;
- Ritchie Park elementary school would go to Frost and then RM and be the only school from frost going there
- I think one option has a ridiculously large and oddly shaped boundary for Churchill, which goes all the way up to near Darnestown meanwhile removing some pockets down nearby the school
- seems like a lot of split articulations in the Churchill Wootten and Richard Montgomery clusters at the middle school level when it seems like a lot of times the entire school could just stay together through the whole time.
- there’s a little pocket that looks like it belongs at Wooton, but is at RM. I think I thought to myself if that’s the area that’s going to frost and then back to RM why not just send those people to Wootten

The solution is to also change the ES boundaries

That's coming up next.

Ineffective. If you have separate processes, they will not be able to change them because it is no stability of boundaries

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Region 4 is so strong with many strong academic kids and programs. There are a ton of Asians and whites there. It is quite unfair in terms of equity compared to other regions.

This 100%. Most of the families in that region are very entitled already. Leave the magnet opportunities for kids with less resources.

[Anonymous]

Well as a family in the Wayside district, I am pleased with these options. It made no sense to put these kids on buses and drive them to Wootton every day. My house will keep its value!!

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Anonymous wrote:Region 4 is so strong with many strong academic kids and programs. There are a ton of Asians and whites there. It is quite unfair in terms of equity compared to other regions.

This 100%. Most of the families in that region are very entitled already. Leave the magnet opportunities for kids with less resources.

Without poolesville magnet access, I hope they give region 5 some more resources and programs for kids that want to go further. Region 5 seems to be the weakest now in upper county compared to region 6 and region 4.