Georgia Hyundai Plant ICE Raid

[Anonymous]

Is it even worth it to S Korea to catch American workers up to speed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're going to spin it as the fault of the contractors sneaking people into the US, I suppose. Newsweek article reports Hyundai promising to review its practices and policies regarding contractors, and Karoline will explain that we really helped Hyundai in the end besides protecting vulnerable foreign workers.

But previously I had seen reports that Hyundai was saying US was causing gridlock in the business visa system forcing them to rely on other types of visas with hopes they could clear the gridlock

A good friend of mine is the PM for the software (non-product) system for another company building an EV factory and he constantly has to send people back to their home country because the US government is so screwed up waiting for a legitimate renewal would cause a visa violation.

Maybe he should try hiring US citizens.

They’re too dumb that’s why they need to import workers.

[Anonymous]

I know that the US currently hates funding higher education, but if we are needing to go to other countries to find adequate specialized staff for specific industry roles, perhaps we should figure out investing in US citizens getting that specialized training.

Heck, I work in nursing where we do not have enough nursing schools churning out graduates to keep up with the nursing shortage. If anything, we should expand loan forgiveness for specific roles in needed professions with shortages of staff with specialized training.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're going to spin it as the fault of the contractors sneaking people into the US, I suppose. Newsweek article reports Hyundai promising to review its practices and policies regarding contractors, and Karoline will explain that we really helped Hyundai in the end besides protecting vulnerable foreign workers.

But previously I had seen reports that Hyundai was saying US was causing gridlock in the business visa system forcing them to rely on other types of visas with hopes they could clear the gridlock

A good friend of mine is the PM for the software (non-product) system for another company building an EV factory and he constantly has to send people back to their home country because the US government is so screwed up waiting for a legitimate renewal would cause a visa violation.

Maybe he should try hiring US citizens.

They’re too dumb that’s why they need to import workers.

+1 Americans aren't up to S Korean speed and they cost more$. If Americans were could do the job, they'd be doing it already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know that the US currently hates funding higher education, but if we are needing to go to other countries to find adequate specialized staff for specific industry roles, perhaps we should figure out investing in US citizens getting that specialized training.

Heck, I work in nursing where we do not have enough nursing schools churning out graduates to keep up with the nursing shortage. If anything, we should expand loan forgiveness for specific roles in needed professions with shortages of staff with specialized training.

Businesses have claimed this fiancé the late 80s and 90s. The dismantling of the Ducati on system now seems intentional for the past few decades. If Americans are too stupid, even the ones who graduate from the same vaunted universities as their so-called foreign and immigrant betters, it is because those who have been in the US for at least two to three generations are too expensive.

We’ve also let China go too long without punishment for stealing IP and not pegging the Yen the same way as everyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know that the US currently hates funding higher education, but if we are needing to go to other countries to find adequate specialized staff for specific industry roles, perhaps we should figure out investing in US citizens getting that specialized training.

Heck, I work in nursing where we do not have enough nursing schools churning out graduates to keep up with the nursing shortage. If anything, we should expand loan forgiveness for specific roles in needed professions with shortages of staff with specialized training.

Maybe, but this is a South Korean operation with specialized South Korean equipment. It was going to require South Koreans to set it up and train the Americans.

Thank god we got rid of those folks, and it only cost 8,000 red state jobs!

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Anonymous wrote:All the Korean were legal. You think the South Koreans are going to smuggle in Korean construction workers for the general contractor they are using to build the plants??

How stupid is maga?

They use staffing companies to keep at arms length the illegality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They were not here legally to work
Evidence?

They are no longer here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The state of Georgia and local areas are giving Hyundai 2 billion dollars in tax breaks because they thought Americans would be hired. There is no reason for almost 500 Korean workers to take jobs away from Americans.

Democrats should be supporting this? What party is now for the worker? Please tell me so I can join that party? Democrats and Republicans only care about the rich.

This is the critical point. Were they hiring Americans or just importing their own labor?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're going to spin it as the fault of the contractors sneaking people into the US, I suppose. Newsweek article reports Hyundai promising to review its practices and policies regarding contractors, and Karoline will explain that we really helped Hyundai in the end besides protecting vulnerable foreign workers.

But previously I had seen reports that Hyundai was saying US was causing gridlock in the business visa system forcing them to rely on other types of visas with hopes they could clear the gridlock

So all those engineers and software experts are being detained in private prisons right now. They were given the choice of leave immediately and be banned from returning to the US for 5 years or wait for a trial in 4-6 months.

If these people can not get back in to the country this plant will be shut down.

Also S.Korean media and websites are showing looping video of the arrests and prisons. S. Korea are pissed. This could result in the US military being forced out of S. Korea and S. Korea moving closer to China.

That's not happening. South Korea has no desire to become North Korea.

[Anonymous]

South Korea, specifically Hyundai Motors, has now frozen TWENTY-TWO projects in the United States.

LOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:South Korea, specifically Hyundai Motors, has now frozen TWENTY-TWO projects in the United States.

LOL.

FAFO. The South Koreans were pissed enough to send a military jet to pick up all the Koreans related to that plant raid to make sure they got home safely. It's so so so hard to attract big investments to states, particularly ones with relatively low education levels like Georgia. This will set back progress there on economic development by a decade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The state of Georgia and local areas are giving Hyundai 2 billion dollars in tax breaks because they thought Americans would be hired. There is no reason for almost 500 Korean workers to take jobs away from Americans.

Democrats should be supporting this? What party is now for the worker? Please tell me so I can join that party? Democrats and Republicans only care about the rich.

This is the critical point. Were they hiring Americans or just importing their own labor?

They were using workers from prior plants they have set up to set it up for American workers. Every company does this when they expand. They don’t just arrive in a new location to hire all new people who’ve never done anything at the company and tell them “figure it out!”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The state of Georgia and local areas are giving Hyundai 2 billion dollars in tax breaks because they thought Americans would be hired. There is no reason for almost 500 Korean workers to take jobs away from Americans.

Democrats should be supporting this? What party is now for the worker? Please tell me so I can join that party? Democrats and Republicans only care about the rich.

This is the critical point. Were they hiring Americans or just importing their own labor?

The plant wasn't operational yet. The people who were here were getting the operation implemented and operational, then they were to train Americans. So no, these were temporary south korean workers here legally on a temporary B-1 visa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The state of Georgia and local areas are giving Hyundai 2 billion dollars in tax breaks because they thought Americans would be hired. There is no reason for almost 500 Korean workers to take jobs away from Americans.

Democrats should be supporting this? What party is now for the worker? Please tell me so I can join that party? Democrats and Republicans only care about the rich.

This is the critical point. Were they hiring Americans or just importing their own labor?

Building plants to manufacture the batteries and related computing chips for electric cars requires very specific technical knowledge, according to Ellen Hughes-Cromwick, former chief global economist at Ford.

“You have certain positions that are very, very technical,” said Hughes-Cromwick, now a senior visiting fellow at the center-left think tank Third Way. “These are people who have installed the equipment before. … It’s really ludicrous to think that we’re not going to have foreign-born workers as part of our workforce as we get manufacturing back on our soil.”

Battery plants require electromechanical processes that are far more complex than those at traditional car assembly plants, with proprietary industrial systems that most U.S. workers are not trained to operate. The engineers designing and building the plant need to have deep experience controlling potential contaminants, mixing volatile chemicals, and installing equipment that can handle voltage loads exponentially higher than those at legacy factories.

“We are more than capable of building and staffing those plants, but not instantaneously,” said Chris Nichols, CEO of the Interstate Renewable Energy Council, a group that is eager to see the United States resurgent in manufacturing these advanced technologies. “Just saying we are going to build the plant doesn’t create 500 to 1,000 highly specialized engineers and other workers who happen to be in Georgia.”

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/hyundai-raid-could-upend-trump-165858389.html