Athletic recruit: things I have learned from this so far

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody from Ivy League is making a living as an athlete?
Oluokon from Yale just signed a $45 million contract with the Jaguars.
Xaivian Lee of Princeton just transferred to Florida for basketball and reportedly will make $2 million.
Ever heard of Graham Blanks from Harvard?
How about Danny Wolf, who began his basketball career at Yale and then was a first round NBA draft pick this summer.
The Ivy League is a good league for many sports, and produces a fair number of individual superstars.

You can name the ones going pro because there are so few of them.
Danny Wolf is 7 feet tall, how many of you have a kid who is 7 feet tall?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is all very relevant to D1, but it a lot of it does not apply to D3, just so folks are aware.

There are very few perks like help with registration, no massages (unless it’s needed therapy), no tutors (but there is required study hall), no laundry service, no special housing or dining options. There isn’t any money so you can’t really negotiate, though you can negotiate academic merit money, like everyone else.

The issue of time and major is still something to think about but less cut and dry. My baseball playing son can major in anything he wants and can take a semester abroad. He has to be able to handle the load and figure out conflicts, though.

And he is so happy. He plays the sport he loves every day and gets an education. It’s the right fit.

My baseball son is starting to make a college list and we know now D1 is out of the question, D2 is a reach. Would love to know where your son is happy so we can take a look and see if it's a fit for our son. Thanks!

What academic level?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, are you willing to share the sport ?

Is it a revenue (basketball or football) sport ?

Depending on the school other sports are plus revenue sports. Hockey is a revenue sport, as is softball at a growing number of universities.

The two you mentioned are certainly revenue sports but the way of thinking that they are the only two are outdated.

Hard to believe that softball is a revenue sport; can you name some schools where this is true ? TIA

Same for "hockey". Is that ice hockey or field hockey ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, are you willing to share the sport ?

Is it a revenue (basketball or football) sport ?

Depending on the school other sports are plus revenue sports. Hockey is a revenue sport, as is softball at a growing number of universities.

The two you mentioned are certainly revenue sports but the way of thinking that they are the only two are outdated.

Hard to believe that softball is a revenue sport; can you name some schools where this is true ? TIA

Same for "hockey". Is that ice hockey or field hockey ?

Continuing:

While I understand that any sport can generate revenue through ticket sales, concessions, & TV revenue, my understanding is that, typically, all sports other than football & basketball need funding beyond the revenue generated by that sport. Often college football funds the overwhelming majority of an athletics dept. budget.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I never understand why a student would give up a major (if required by coach) just so they can play a sport in college

If a student is D1 in football, basketball or hockey (in the north) and was ranked nationally in the top 20 or so for high school players, they would want to focus on the probability of playing pro.

So few college students are going to go Pro. Those that have a chance know it, for everyone else it doesn’t make sense to put the sport over their future career.

[Anonymous]

You can probably count on one hand the number of D1 track programs that were fully funded to the previous limits before the house settlement. These schools didn’t suddenly receive more money for T&F. If people are lucky teams will increase from 18 scholarships pre-house, to 20 scholarships now. I’d be shocked if we ever see 45 full rides for track.

[Anonymous]

Getting recruited to a top 30 D1 academic school is a lot harder than getting straight As and maxing out standardized test. The competition to get recruited for these schools is insane. If you were to take all of the athletes interested and qualified for the slot it would be less than a 1% acceptance rate. The kids that get recruited are vetted for more rigorously than any regular student. Coaches watch them compete for over a year, have multiple calls with hs coaches, club coaches and teachers, do interviews with the athlete, and pre-reads with admissions before making their selection. Once the coach selects the athlete it’s pretty much guaranteed admissions, but that is because the kid has already been fully vetted by the time actual admissions happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can probably count on one hand the number of D1 track programs that were fully funded to the previous limits before the house settlement. These schools didn’t suddenly receive more money for T&F. If people are lucky teams will increase from 18 scholarships pre-house, to 20 scholarships now. I’d be shocked if we ever see 45 full rides for track.

This.

[Anonymous]

I assume all the anecdotes are from families who have never been through the recruitment process. Some are funny to read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I assume all the anecdotes are from families who have never been through the recruitment process. Some are funny to read.

There is plenty of "I heard it from a friend here". But there are a few people who obviously have been through it. Even though I live it as a club recruiting coordinator in a certain sport as well as having been through it with my own kids I remain astounded at the info some people believe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I assume all the anecdotes are from families who have never been through the recruitment process. Some are funny to read.

I’m a former D1 athlete and parent of 2 recruited D1 athletes. My good friend and former teammate is an AD at an ACC school. My advice is not anecdotal. Universities don’t suddenly have money trees growing on campus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I assume all the anecdotes are from families who have never been through the recruitment process. Some are funny to read.

I’m the D3 baseball player parent and I assure you I am real! I think the truth is that there is a huge range of experiences across schools, divisions, and sports. I try not to assume people are making stuff up but that their experience is different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is all very relevant to D1, but it a lot of it does not apply to D3, just so folks are aware.

There are very few perks like help with registration, no massages (unless it’s needed therapy), no tutors (but there is required study hall), no laundry service, no special housing or dining options. There isn’t any money so you can’t really negotiate, though you can negotiate academic merit money, like everyone else.

The issue of time and major is still something to think about but less cut and dry. My baseball playing son can major in anything he wants and can take a semester abroad. He has to be able to handle the load and figure out conflicts, though.

And he is so happy. He plays the sport he loves every day and gets an education. It’s the right fit.

My baseball son is starting to make a college list and we know now D1 is out of the question, D2 is a reach. Would love to know where your son is happy so we can take a look and see if it's a fit for our son. Thanks!

What academic level?

Average. Only going into 10th grade, so hasn't done the SAT's yet, but GPA is 3.8. His ADHD is debilitating when it comes to school work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Three pages of posts and no discussion of travel requirements. Kids miss a lot of class time at most P5 conference schools, especially for the more spectator popular team sports. Your kid is going to need that tutor when they have multiple travel days per week in season.

Is this true for women's cross country and track? I have a DD being recruited for D3 admission to a few LACs. How much travel and missing class occurs in D3 track & field and X country seasons?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Three pages of posts and no discussion of travel requirements. Kids miss a lot of class time at most P5 conference schools, especially for the more spectator popular team sports. Your kid is going to need that tutor when they have multiple travel days per week in season.

Is this true for women's cross country and track? I have a DD being recruited for D3 admission to a few LACs. How much travel and missing class occurs in D3 track & field and X country seasons?

Maybe a few Fridays or Friday afternoons for T/F and XC.