Stanford bringing back legacy preference and test required

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Anonymous wrote:Legacies are only white guys named Chad?

Legacies are dominated by rich white people.

Uh, do you even know what the demographics of Stanford undergraduates have been for the last few decades?

Most of the legacies that I know who have gotten into Stanford in recent years are Asian.

Anecdotal

You would have us think that there aren’t many non-white Stanford alums with kids?

Post a peer-reviewed study if you want to be taken seriously.

Like all the peer-reviewed studies showing that current Stanford legacies are dominated by rich white people?

[Anonymous]

losers

public sentiment is against legacy policies at elite colleges. but I guess stanford can't afford to go against its elite donors given their current cash crunch??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Legacies are only white guys named Chad?

Legacies are dominated by rich white people.

Uh, do you even know what the demographics of Stanford undergraduates have been for the last few decades?

Most of the legacies that I know who have gotten into Stanford in recent years are Asian.

Anecdotal

You would have us think that there aren’t many non-white Stanford alums with kids?

Post a peer-reviewed study if you want to be taken seriously.

Like all the peer-reviewed studies showing that current Stanford legacies are dominated by rich white people?

A peer-reviewed text was posted earlier in the thread. Try to keep up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legacies are only white guys named Chad?

Legacies are dominated by rich white people.

Uh, do you even know what the demographics of Stanford undergraduates have been for the last few decades?

Most of the legacies that I know who have gotten into Stanford in recent years are Asian.

Anecdotal

You would have us think that there aren’t many non-white Stanford alums with kids?

Post a peer-reviewed study if you want to be taken seriously.

Like all the peer-reviewed studies showing that current Stanford legacies are dominated by rich white people?

A peer-reviewed text was posted earlier in the thread. Try to keep up.

Yeah, that didn't say anything about the demographics of current legacies. Nice try though.

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Anonymous wrote:Legacies are only white guys named Chad?

Legacies are dominated by rich white people.

Uh, do you even know what the demographics of Stanford undergraduates have been for the last few decades?

Most of the legacies that I know who have gotten into Stanford in recent years are Asian.

Anecdotal

You would have us think that there aren’t many non-white Stanford alums with kids?

Post a peer-reviewed study if you want to be taken seriously.

Like all the peer-reviewed studies showing that current Stanford legacies are dominated by rich white people?

A peer-reviewed text was posted earlier in the thread. Try to keep up.

Yeah, that didn't say anything about the demographics of current legacies. Nice try though.

Read the book, idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:From the perspective of an active alumnus, this is a huge relief. College admissions have become so competitive, it has become almost random. The legacies are every bit as qualified on paper as the other admitted students but they aren't subject to the same RNG in the admissions process.

Cite?

I can't find anything for stanford but here is something for harvard:

'Legacy students also had a higher average SAT score than non-legacy students, at 1523 for legacy students and 1491 for non-legacy students. "
https://features.thecrimson.com/2021/freshman-survey/academics-narrative/

Right. Because the non-legacy bucket includes athletes and a boatload of other hooks. What a dumb stat--and dumber for not even being able to recognize that.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legacies are only white guys named Chad?

Legacies are dominated by rich white people.

Uh, do you even know what the demographics of Stanford undergraduates have been for the last few decades?

Most of the legacies that I know who have gotten into Stanford in recent years are Asian.

Anecdotal

You would have us think that there aren’t many non-white Stanford alums with kids?

Post a peer-reviewed study if you want to be taken seriously.

Like all the peer-reviewed studies showing that current Stanford legacies are dominated by rich white people?

A peer-reviewed text was posted earlier in the thread. Try to keep up.

It cracks me up that people can't understand why universities are going to start reinstating legacy. We just saw an entire generation get preference for college admission based on race. Now that that first generation is about to have their children apply, right when affirmative action gets abolished, this is how affirmative action carries through to the next generation. It's quite obvious. Legacy should be upheld everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legacies are only white guys named Chad?

Legacies are dominated by rich white people.

Uh, do you even know what the demographics of Stanford undergraduates have been for the last few decades?

Most of the legacies that I know who have gotten into Stanford in recent years are Asian.

Anecdotal

You would have us think that there aren’t many non-white Stanford alums with kids?

Post a peer-reviewed study if you want to be taken seriously.

Like all the peer-reviewed studies showing that current Stanford legacies are dominated by rich white people?

A peer-reviewed text was posted earlier in the thread. Try to keep up.

It cracks me up that people can't understand why universities are going to start reinstating legacy. We just saw an entire generation get preference for college admission based on race. Now that that first generation is about to have their children apply, right when affirmative action gets abolished, this is how affirmative action carries through to the next generation. It's quite obvious. Legacy should be upheld everywhere.

Cite that legacy will support affirmative action?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legacies are only white guys named Chad?

Legacies are dominated by rich white people.

Uh, do you even know what the demographics of Stanford undergraduates have been for the last few decades?

Most of the legacies that I know who have gotten into Stanford in recent years are Asian.

Anecdotal

You would have us think that there aren’t many non-white Stanford alums with kids?

Post a peer-reviewed study if you want to be taken seriously.

Like all the peer-reviewed studies showing that current Stanford legacies are dominated by rich white people?

A peer-reviewed text was posted earlier in the thread. Try to keep up.

It cracks me up that people can't understand why universities are going to start reinstating legacy. We just saw an entire generation get preference for college admission based on race. Now that that first generation is about to have their children apply, right when affirmative action gets abolished, this is how affirmative action carries through to the next generation. It's quite obvious. Legacy should be upheld everywhere.

Cite that legacy will support affirmative action?

I agree that this thread seems to be jumping the shark….
Um, does the previously poster really think Stanford wants to do this to help black and brown folks? I laughed out loud when I read that.

This whole reaction reinforces my view that many people are just closeted racist. Either blatantly racist, e.g., “the DCA crash was because of DEI. So let’s rid the world of any inclusion initiatives ” Or paternalistic racist, e.g., “there is no way a black or brown kid could actually be _more_ or even the same qualified as my kid.”

I’m so tired of these complaints.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Legacies are only white guys named Chad?

Legacies are dominated by rich white people.

Uh, do you even know what the demographics of Stanford undergraduates have been for the last few decades?

Most of the legacies that I know who have gotten into Stanford in recent years are Asian.

Anecdotal

You would have us think that there aren’t many non-white Stanford alums with kids?

Post a peer-reviewed study if you want to be taken seriously.

Like all the peer-reviewed studies showing that current Stanford legacies are dominated by rich white people?

A peer-reviewed text was posted earlier in the thread. Try to keep up.

It cracks me up that people can't understand why universities are going to start reinstating legacy. We just saw an entire generation get preference for college admission based on race. Now that that first generation is about to have their children apply, right when affirmative action gets abolished, this is how affirmative action carries through to the next generation. It's quite obvious. Legacy should be upheld everywhere.

Cite that legacy will support affirmative action?

I agree that this thread seems to be jumping the shark….
Um, does the previously poster really think Stanford wants to do this to help black and brown folks? I laughed out loud when I read that.

This whole reaction reinforces my view that many people are just closeted racist. Either blatantly racist, e.g., “the DCA crash was because of DEI. So let’s rid the world of any inclusion initiatives ” Or paternalistic racist, e.g., “there is no way a black or brown kid could actually be _more_ or even the same qualified as my kid.”

I’m so tired of these complaints.

+100

[Anonymous]

they are free to do what they want, and make policies that reflect their priorities/values.

we are free to judge them in response.

[Anonymous]

Just keep in mind legacy status with no history of donation isn't meaningful. It is a reward for continuing engagement and support of the university.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just keep in mind legacy status with no history of donation isn't meaningful. It is a reward for continuing engagement and support of the university.

Great news for the 40 year old tech bros.

[Anonymous]

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public sentiment is against legacy policies at elite colleges. but I guess stanford can't afford to go against its elite donors given their current cash crunch??

It is not that they cannot afford it. It is they do not want it. They like the connection to the past. They like that families and generations go there. It is part of what they want. If you do not value that do not go there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the perspective of an active alumnus, this is a huge relief. College admissions have become so competitive, it has become almost random. The legacies are every bit as qualified on paper as the other admitted students but they aren't subject to the same RNG in the admissions process.

Cite?

I can't find anything for stanford but here is something for harvard:

'Legacy students also had a higher average SAT score than non-legacy students, at 1523 for legacy students and 1491 for non-legacy students. "
https://features.thecrimson.com/2021/freshman-survey/academics-narrative/

Right. Because the non-legacy bucket includes athletes and a boatload of other hooks. What a dumb stat--and dumber for not even being able to recognize that.

Not enough to create that difference. There is no school where legacy gets an unqualified person in. Donations will do that. Legacy gets qualified people picked. There are likely four times the number of qualified people vs slots at Stanford. Legacy get one of those people in.