I am observing the biggest leftward cultural shift since 2008

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I am one of the rare Democrats who correctly predicted Trump’s win in spring of 2016 and again in 2024.

What OP is getting at is directionally correct (the disillusionment with the status quo, for rise of populism) but where I think she is wrong is that as of yet, I don’t see that somewhat leftward populist shift reflecting in national election outcomes. The critical voters that Democrats need in swing states do not trust the Democratic Party at all, and certainly don’t see Democrats as any sort of “good guy.”

Democrats have an enormous trust hole to dig themselves out of before they can win national elections again. The voters they need see them as liars right now.

I am watching a few Democratic candidates around the country who show promise, although I think a party that relies on the lightning in a bottle that was Obama is ultimately doomed. But the situation isn’t entirely hopeless. Someone who can capitalize on what OP is observing without being tainted by the deep trust issues the party has would have a good shot.

I’m not as pessimistic. To be cynical, there are only two national parties, and always will be. Even if people distrust Democrats (and I’m not sure that’s true), they’ll still vote blue in order to to kick out the vastly more unpopular Trump.

PP here. Why on earth do you think Trump is more unpopular than the Democrats? There is no polling that shows that now. Polls now show Trump is unpopular but the Democratic Party is even more unpopular.

And I don’t know how you can’t see how distrusted the Democrats are at this point, but this is the same smug complacency that lost the presidency in 2024. I find it incredibly frustrating, because if you’d just open your eyes (where you refers to Democrats more generally), maybe we’d have a shot at winning again.

Trump isn't running against "Democrats" - he will be running against a specific person. I don't give a damn what polls say about political parties. Polls have always shown that parties are unpopular but individual candidates still win.

As far as Democrats "learning lessons", I'm sick of apologizing for our beliefs, which are communal, tolerant, and progressive. If basic competence and decency is too much for voters, especially when compared to the Republic clown show, then screw them. Democrats need to grow a backbone, not grovel to a bunch of people who are scared of trans people.

But the Democratic leaders are not any of the bolded and neither are their beliefs. Not since Obama and even then, only in his first term. That’s why people like Trump can and do win: because voters simply don’t perceive Democratic candidates this way. The Democratic self-perception gap is just so gaping.

+1 do Jaffries, Schumer or Gilibrand seem "communal, tolerant and progressive" in their reaction to Mamdani's election?

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Anonymous wrote:The problem that Dem moderates are running into is that they don't seem to stand for anything. I am barely hearing anything from D leadership on any of the major issues today. Maybe they are saying or posting something but it's not penetrating and I say this as someone who is pretty engaged.

Agree with a PP who said the party (maybe both) have lost the trust of voters. This is why left wing or progressive candidates can generate more enthusiasm, because they seem more authentic and like the believe in something versus parroting the most "popular" or palatable consultant-vetted position.

I agree Dems will need someone who seems like an outsider like Obama initially did. Otherwise it's hard to break the cycle.

You people are ridiculous. Dem policies are favored by a vast majority of voters. We have minority rule right now. Biden lurched left on a single issue: immigration. The loan forgiveness really went to predatory lenders who kept jacking up balances on borrowers when they transferred loans. Most people would agree that if your original loan balance was $50k and you’ve been paying for 10 years, your balance shouldn’t be $100k. That doesn’t happen with mortgages, so it shouldn’t happen with school loans. FFS educate yourself on what it entailed.

Finally, it’s looking very credible that 2024 was rigged.

—never had a school loan because I attended on the GI Bill

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If all you mean is tendency towards Marxism because our billionaires are all acting evil in public, then I can agree.

But if you mean left in general: rights for women, gay rights, environmental awareness? Nope.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I am one of the rare Democrats who correctly predicted Trump’s win in spring of 2016 and again in 2024.

What OP is getting at is directionally correct (the disillusionment with the status quo, for rise of populism) but where I think she is wrong is that as of yet, I don’t see that somewhat leftward populist shift reflecting in national election outcomes. The critical voters that Democrats need in swing states do not trust the Democratic Party at all, and certainly don’t see Democrats as any sort of “good guy.”

Democrats have an enormous trust hole to dig themselves out of before they can win national elections again. The voters they need see them as liars right now.

I am watching a few Democratic candidates around the country who show promise, although I think a party that relies on the lightning in a bottle that was Obama is ultimately doomed. But the situation isn’t entirely hopeless. Someone who can capitalize on what OP is observing without being tainted by the deep trust issues the party has would have a good shot.

I’m not as pessimistic. To be cynical, there are only two national parties, and always will be. Even if people distrust Democrats (and I’m not sure that’s true), they’ll still vote blue in order to to kick out the vastly more unpopular Trump.

PP here. Why on earth do you think Trump is more unpopular than the Democrats? There is no polling that shows that now. Polls now show Trump is unpopular but the Democratic Party is even more unpopular.

And I don’t know how you can’t see how distrusted the Democrats are at this point, but this is the same smug complacency that lost the presidency in 2024. I find it incredibly frustrating, because if you’d just open your eyes (where you refers to Democrats more generally), maybe we’d have a shot at winning again.

Trump isn't running against "Democrats" - he will be running against a specific person. I don't give a damn what polls say about political parties. Polls have always shown that parties are unpopular but individual candidates still win.

As far as Democrats "learning lessons", I'm sick of apologizing for our beliefs, which are communal, tolerant, and progressive. If basic competence and decency is too much for voters, especially when compared to the Republic clown show, then screw them. Democrats need to grow a backbone, not grovel to a bunch of people who are scared of trans people.

But the Democratic leaders are not any of the bolded and neither are their beliefs. Not since Obama and even then, only in his first term. That’s why people like Trump can and do win: because voters simply don’t perceive Democratic candidates this way. The Democratic self-perception gap is just so gaping.

Really. Our President is separating toddlers from their mothers at the border and threatening to deport US citizens. Silencing academics and scientists. Deporting Afghan allies who will certainly be tortured and killed once returned to Afghanistan. Covering up for rape and pedophillia. Tearing down democracy.

And it’s the Democrats who are the bad guys in this scenario? Democrats who are untrustworthy and evil?

Bullsht. All of this handwringing is just Republicans quaking in their boots, seeing a blue tsunami coming in November 2026. Democrats have outperformed in every election this year and look to sweep in Virginia in November. Letting Biden run in 2024 was a mistake, but one that pales in comparison with Trump’s mismanagement, and polling reflects that. Again, voters won’t be voting for the Democratic Party. They’ll be voting to kick out Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:Just my observations here. I am seeing a leftward cultural shift that rivals that of the Great Recession. This time is different, it is certainly not a "woke" culture (which has been resoundingly rejected) but profoundly anti-capitalist and anti-corporate. It has populist elements that also appeal to the New Right.

For reference, I am a millennial married to a Gen-Xer with Gen Z stepchildren. All of us are gainfully employed...for now.

What I am seeing isn't necessarily Marxist or socialist (although the Bernie Sanders/AOC left still takes this label) and it isn't obvious across the board. Americans are still divided within the working class such that there is still strong resentment of people "below" you getting something that they didn't "earn," and there is still a (very healthy, IMO) distrust in Big Government and dislike of taxes. However, I am seeing a distrust in American capitalism and especially, corporations, at an all-time high, or at least since 2008.

Young people especially HATE this economy. They hate graduating with debt (and yes, even trade schools incur debt) and not finding a job, because of AI, offshoring, or companies just wanting to extract as much profit as they can with as few resources as they can get away with. They hate private equity buying up homes... and hospitals! They hate AI-generated rejection letters (for job postings that require multiple resume formats and cover letters and essays and all these hoops), and "Ghost Jobs," and benefits disappearing, and job security being a joke even when they did "the right thing" by majoring in STEM, etc.

Silicon Valley is no longer seen as a center of innovation, but as a center for global control, market manipulation, and just plain evil (for example, the latest trend in billionaires genetically designing their own offspring). More and more are seeing tech companies not as innovators but as exploiters, especially since the tech jobs with comfortable salaries are disappearing. If you aren't up there with Musk or Thiel, you're one of the peasants to their feudal lordships.

The anti-corporate sentiment extends to the cultural Right, too. They hate how corporations get away with hiring illegal immigrants, or the 2010s trend of "woke" virtue signaling capitalism. They hate fake virtue-signaling marketing campaigns and forced diversity.

Save for a few podcast bros that still salivate over cryptocurrency, most Gen Zs are turning anti-capitalist, in a uniquely modern way. It's really interesting to see. We're all tired of being scammed, rug pulled, hoodwinked, whatever you want to call it when you are told all your life to work hard and do the right thing only to be screwed over to no fault of your own.

Awww bless your heart. You actually want others to believe this. Nice try.

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Love this leftist dcum bubble.

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I think the left is going further left. But it remains to be seen how the rest of America is actually reacting to it. The left is going full on Cuba style communist.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem that Dem moderates are running into is that they don't seem to stand for anything. I am barely hearing anything from D leadership on any of the major issues today. Maybe they are saying or posting something but it's not penetrating and I say this as someone who is pretty engaged.

Agree with a PP who said the party (maybe both) have lost the trust of voters. This is why left wing or progressive candidates can generate more enthusiasm, because they seem more authentic and like the believe in something versus parroting the most "popular" or palatable consultant-vetted position.

I agree Dems will need someone who seems like an outsider like Obama initially did. Otherwise it's hard to break the cycle.

You people are ridiculous. Dem policies are favored by a vast majority of voters. We have minority rule right now. Biden lurched left on a single issue: immigration. The loan forgiveness really went to predatory lenders who kept jacking up balances on borrowers when they transferred loans. Most people would agree that if your original loan balance was $50k and you’ve been paying for 10 years, your balance shouldn’t be $100k. That doesn’t happen with mortgages, so it shouldn’t happen with school loans. FFS educate yourself on what it entailed.

Finally, it’s looking very credible that 2024 was rigged.

—never had a school loan because I attended on the GI Bill

You have got to be kidding me. He lurched left on almost everything, culminating in pardoning people like the cash for kids judge.

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Anonymous wrote:Right. So the fact that Republicans won the White House, House, Senate and more governorships is clearly an indication of a shift to the left. Survey says? NO. It is a clear rejection of the lurch to the left. Open your eyes…. Migration away from Blue states to Red is even more evidence as people are literally voting with their feet and their dollars. Private schools cannot meet the need as people flee disastrous public schools hijacked by unions. I mean honestly what are you even talking about. Good lord you are delusional.

Do you not understand the concept of time? OP is talking about now and elections in the near future.

More than half a year has passed since Election Day. Just about half a year has passed since January 20.

People rejected the Democrats and they see what the GOP has done with the chance to govern. As usual, it's total shit for everyone not in the 0.1%.

Biden and his open borders and dei stuff and the lies about his mental capacity have done damage on a level you can’t even comprehend. My teenagers openly mock democrats when they don’t think parents are listening. And this is with other kids whose parents are also democrats. It’s amazing.

I notice that teens, including mine, mock everyone across the board, which is good - it means they're clear-eyed and not falling for some political schtick. Teen culture is very sardonic these days.

They also expect to have stuff handed to them today. They get degreed and expect to start in the middle and move up the ladder fast. Have you ever washed dishes or rang a register or cut your pwn lawn? Ridiculous expectations by teens.

Why would someone with a STEM degree and the 5 and 6 figure debt required to pay for it be satisfied with washing dishes or standing at a register? It is your expectations that are ridiculous. We aren’t expecting to start at the middle. Most would be happy to start at the bottom WITH actual opportunity to learn and advance. The problem is, those opportunities have become few and far between. No company wants to invest in actual entry level talent anymore. And if you manage to get a foot in the door, they expect you to accept meager wages, shitty or nonexistent benefits, and promotions and changes in title with no matching change in salary. I've literally never recieved a proper promotion. Just more responsibilities, title changes, and vague promises of a possible salary adjustment in the future. I have always had to change companies to get the raise I deserve. This is the norm now.

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This is to be expected. For the last several decades we've seen the middle class falling apart, we've seen stagnation of wages, while housing, groceries, energy and other costs keep creeping up. We see people go bankrupt over medical debt. We see people no longer afford to be able to buy a home as was so easy for previous generations. And we also see insane excesses of wealth at the top held by lunatics like Musk We see health insurance companies and big pharma ripping off the sick. And now we see Republicans attacking all kinds of programs that people depend on just so that the rich can get even bigger tax breaks they don't need while adding even more debt.

People are pissed off. Something needs to change, NOW.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem that Dem moderates are running into is that they don't seem to stand for anything. I am barely hearing anything from D leadership on any of the major issues today. Maybe they are saying or posting something but it's not penetrating and I say this as someone who is pretty engaged.

Agree with a PP who said the party (maybe both) have lost the trust of voters. This is why left wing or progressive candidates can generate more enthusiasm, because they seem more authentic and like the believe in something versus parroting the most "popular" or palatable consultant-vetted position.

I agree Dems will need someone who seems like an outsider like Obama initially did. Otherwise it's hard to break the cycle.

The moderates have been driven out of the Democratic Party. That’s why you don’t hear from them.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I am one of the rare Democrats who correctly predicted Trump’s win in spring of 2016 and again in 2024.

What OP is getting at is directionally correct (the disillusionment with the status quo, for rise of populism) but where I think she is wrong is that as of yet, I don’t see that somewhat leftward populist shift reflecting in national election outcomes. The critical voters that Democrats need in swing states do not trust the Democratic Party at all, and certainly don’t see Democrats as any sort of “good guy.”

Democrats have an enormous trust hole to dig themselves out of before they can win national elections again. The voters they need see them as liars right now.

I am watching a few Democratic candidates around the country who show promise, although I think a party that relies on the lightning in a bottle that was Obama is ultimately doomed. But the situation isn’t entirely hopeless. Someone who can capitalize on what OP is observing without being tainted by the deep trust issues the party has would have a good shot.

I’m not as pessimistic. To be cynical, there are only two national parties, and always will be. Even if people distrust Democrats (and I’m not sure that’s true), they’ll still vote blue in order to to kick out the vastly more unpopular Trump.

PP here. Why on earth do you think Trump is more unpopular than the Democrats? There is no polling that shows that now. Polls now show Trump is unpopular but the Democratic Party is even more unpopular.

And I don’t know how you can’t see how distrusted the Democrats are at this point, but this is the same smug complacency that lost the presidency in 2024. I find it incredibly frustrating, because if you’d just open your eyes (where you refers to Democrats more generally), maybe we’d have a shot at winning again.

Trump isn't running against "Democrats" - he will be running against a specific person. I don't give a damn what polls say about political parties. Polls have always shown that parties are unpopular but individual candidates still win.

As far as Democrats "learning lessons", I'm sick of apologizing for our beliefs, which are communal, tolerant, and progressive. If basic competence and decency is too much for voters, especially when compared to the Republic clown show, then screw them. Democrats need to grow a backbone, not grovel to a bunch of people who are scared of trans people.

But the Democratic leaders are not any of the bolded and neither are their beliefs. Not since Obama and even then, only in his first term. That’s why people like Trump can and do win: because voters simply don’t perceive Democratic candidates this way. The Democratic self-perception gap is just so gaping.

Really. Our President is separating toddlers from their mothers at the border and threatening to deport US citizens. Silencing academics and scientists. Deporting Afghan allies who will certainly be tortured and killed once returned to Afghanistan. Covering up for rape and pedophillia. Tearing down democracy.

And it’s the Democrats who are the bad guys in this scenario? Democrats who are untrustworthy and evil?

Bullsht. All of this handwringing is just Republicans quaking in their boots, seeing a blue tsunami coming in November 2026. Democrats have outperformed in every election this year and look to sweep in Virginia in November. Letting Biden run in 2024 was a mistake, but one that pales in comparison with Trump’s mismanagement, and polling reflects that. Again, voters won’t be voting for the Democratic Party. They’ll be voting to kick out Trump.

Nobody here thinks the Republicans are good or anything other than evil. But what you don’t get is that outside the DCUM bubble, people think you are no different than the Republicans.

I do not think DC-based wealthy Democrats understand just how despised they are outside of their own tight circles, and how evil people think they are.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I am one of the rare Democrats who correctly predicted Trump’s win in spring of 2016 and again in 2024.

What OP is getting at is directionally correct (the disillusionment with the status quo, for rise of populism) but where I think she is wrong is that as of yet, I don’t see that somewhat leftward populist shift reflecting in national election outcomes. The critical voters that Democrats need in swing states do not trust the Democratic Party at all, and certainly don’t see Democrats as any sort of “good guy.”

Democrats have an enormous trust hole to dig themselves out of before they can win national elections again. The voters they need see them as liars right now.

I am watching a few Democratic candidates around the country who show promise, although I think a party that relies on the lightning in a bottle that was Obama is ultimately doomed. But the situation isn’t entirely hopeless. Someone who can capitalize on what OP is observing without being tainted by the deep trust issues the party has would have a good shot.

I’m not as pessimistic. To be cynical, there are only two national parties, and always will be. Even if people distrust Democrats (and I’m not sure that’s true), they’ll still vote blue in order to to kick out the vastly more unpopular Trump.

PP here. Why on earth do you think Trump is more unpopular than the Democrats? There is no polling that shows that now. Polls now show Trump is unpopular but the Democratic Party is even more unpopular.

And I don’t know how you can’t see how distrusted the Democrats are at this point, but this is the same smug complacency that lost the presidency in 2024. I find it incredibly frustrating, because if you’d just open your eyes (where you refers to Democrats more generally), maybe we’d have a shot at winning again.

Trump isn't running against "Democrats" - he will be running against a specific person. I don't give a damn what polls say about political parties. Polls have always shown that parties are unpopular but individual candidates still win.

As far as Democrats "learning lessons", I'm sick of apologizing for our beliefs, which are communal, tolerant, and progressive. If basic competence and decency is too much for voters, especially when compared to the Republic clown show, then screw them. Democrats need to grow a backbone, not grovel to a bunch of people who are scared of trans people.

But the Democratic leaders are not any of the bolded and neither are their beliefs. Not since Obama and even then, only in his first term. That’s why people like Trump can and do win: because voters simply don’t perceive Democratic candidates this way. The Democratic self-perception gap is just so gaping.

Really. Our President is separating toddlers from their mothers at the border and threatening to deport US citizens. Silencing academics and scientists. Deporting Afghan allies who will certainly be tortured and killed once returned to Afghanistan. Covering up for rape and pedophillia. Tearing down democracy.

And it’s the Democrats who are the bad guys in this scenario? Democrats who are untrustworthy and evil?

Bullsht. All of this handwringing is just Republicans quaking in their boots, seeing a blue tsunami coming in November 2026. Democrats have outperformed in every election this year and look to sweep in Virginia in November. Letting Biden run in 2024 was a mistake, but one that pales in comparison with Trump’s mismanagement, and polling reflects that. Again, voters won’t be voting for the Democratic Party. They’ll be voting to kick out Trump.

Nobody here thinks the Republicans are good or anything other than evil. But what you don’t get is that outside the DCUM bubble, people think you are no different than the Republicans.

I do not think DC-based wealthy Democrats understand just how despised they are outside of their own tight circles, and how evil people think they are.

Ahhh here's that weird notion that we here on DCUM are all some kind of ultra wealthy out-of-touch cabal yanking the levers of power from the backs of our limousines.

Nothing's tighter than the little bubble inside your own head.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. We’re going to have 100 Mamdanis. Lifelong GenX Dems like me need to see the writing on the wall. I really wanted a Whitmer, but now I’m all in on AOC.

That’s because I’m a progressive. I’m not afraid of change and really believe that a rising tide lifts all boats. There’s research showing that more generous people make money, and right now under MAGA the US is acting like a poor person cutting AIDS $$ and public broadcasting.

I’m ready to burn it all down so my college-aged kids and their friends might have a future they actually look forward to, instead of worrying about instantly and corruption.

Everyone is abuzz about Mamdani but the other two big (bigger IMO) elections this year feature moderate Democrats Abigail Spanberger and Mikie Sherrill.

Spanberger is leading opponent by 12 points at this point

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I am one of the rare Democrats who correctly predicted Trump’s win in spring of 2016 and again in 2024.

What OP is getting at is directionally correct (the disillusionment with the status quo, for rise of populism) but where I think she is wrong is that as of yet, I don’t see that somewhat leftward populist shift reflecting in national election outcomes. The critical voters that Democrats need in swing states do not trust the Democratic Party at all, and certainly don’t see Democrats as any sort of “good guy.”

Democrats have an enormous trust hole to dig themselves out of before they can win national elections again. The voters they need see them as liars right now.

I am watching a few Democratic candidates around the country who show promise, although I think a party that relies on the lightning in a bottle that was Obama is ultimately doomed. But the situation isn’t entirely hopeless. Someone who can capitalize on what OP is observing without being tainted by the deep trust issues the party has would have a good shot.

I’m not as pessimistic. To be cynical, there are only two national parties, and always will be. Even if people distrust Democrats (and I’m not sure that’s true), they’ll still vote blue in order to to kick out the vastly more unpopular Trump.

PP here. Why on earth do you think Trump is more unpopular than the Democrats? There is no polling that shows that now. Polls now show Trump is unpopular but the Democratic Party is even more unpopular.

And I don’t know how you can’t see how distrusted the Democrats are at this point, but this is the same smug complacency that lost the presidency in 2024. I find it incredibly frustrating, because if you’d just open your eyes (where you refers to Democrats more generally), maybe we’d have a shot at winning again.

Trump isn't running against "Democrats" - he will be running against a specific person. I don't give a damn what polls say about political parties. Polls have always shown that parties are unpopular but individual candidates still win.

As far as Democrats "learning lessons", I'm sick of apologizing for our beliefs, which are communal, tolerant, and progressive. If basic competence and decency is too much for voters, especially when compared to the Republic clown show, then screw them. Democrats need to grow a backbone, not grovel to a bunch of people who are scared of trans people.

But the Democratic leaders are not any of the bolded and neither are their beliefs. Not since Obama and even then, only in his first term. That’s why people like Trump can and do win: because voters simply don’t perceive Democratic candidates this way. The Democratic self-perception gap is just so gaping.

Really. Our President is separating toddlers from their mothers at the border and threatening to deport US citizens. Silencing academics and scientists. Deporting Afghan allies who will certainly be tortured and killed once returned to Afghanistan. Covering up for rape and pedophillia. Tearing down democracy.

And it’s the Democrats who are the bad guys in this scenario? Democrats who are untrustworthy and evil?

Bullsht. All of this handwringing is just Republicans quaking in their boots, seeing a blue tsunami coming in November 2026. Democrats have outperformed in every election this year and look to sweep in Virginia in November. Letting Biden run in 2024 was a mistake, but one that pales in comparison with Trump’s mismanagement, and polling reflects that. Again, voters won’t be voting for the Democratic Party. They’ll be voting to kick out Trump.

Nobody here thinks the Republicans are good or anything other than evil. But what you don’t get is that outside the DCUM bubble, people think you are no different than the Republicans.

I do not think DC-based wealthy Democrats understand just how despised they are outside of their own tight circles, and how evil people think they are.

Ahhh here's that weird notion that we here on DCUM are all some kind of ultra wealthy out-of-touch cabal yanking the levers of power from the backs of our limousines.

Nothing's tighter than the little bubble inside your own head.

DCUM posters were for the most part convinced Harris was going to win easily. Come on, this place is a ridiculous bubble.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem that Dem moderates are running into is that they don't seem to stand for anything. I am barely hearing anything from D leadership on any of the major issues today. Maybe they are saying or posting something but it's not penetrating and I say this as someone who is pretty engaged.

Agree with a PP who said the party (maybe both) have lost the trust of voters. This is why left wing or progressive candidates can generate more enthusiasm, because they seem more authentic and like the believe in something versus parroting the most "popular" or palatable consultant-vetted position.

I agree Dems will need someone who seems like an outsider like Obama initially did. Otherwise it's hard to break the cycle.

The moderates have been driven out of the Democratic Party. That’s why you don’t hear from them.

We are tired of the bickering.