Would you move to nyc for 200k more in salary?
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Anonymous
They don't have public school in New York or it's suburbs? |
Anonymous
I mean, people who won’t bat an eye at 200k surely won’t go to public? |
Anonymous
Shaddup. It’s not poverty or even nearly poverty. So out of touch. I went to college in nyc, and think it could be fun to live there with teens/tweens, but we have a nice house in DC, and would be trading it for a tiny apartment, so I’d be disinclined to move. I grew up in the Hudson valley. I wouldn’t live there and commute. Probably westchester, and that’s worse/more snobby than DC. I’d consider NJ, but how is that better? Never ever Long Island. |
Anonymous
Are you OP? I'm not the PP, but I have a little insight that may help you. I've raised my DCs in Manhattan, but admittedly with much more money at my disposal. However, when my DCs were in 4th and 8th grades we did briefly and seriously consider moving to the suburbs. If my DCs were younger, I likely would have chosen that route . . . but I was worried about my older DC, who would be starting high school as the "new kid" in a school full of DCs who already had long-established relationships. Mind you that she would be a "new kid" in NYC because she was attending a K-8, but she would be among a large cohort of DCs in similar circumstances. A chat with a realtor mom at an open house in Summit is what ultimately sealed my decision to stay in the city. She was extremely nice, but it was clear to me that the social hierarchy among families in the community was already set in stone, and it would be hard for us to break in with older children even though we had friends in town. We had a great and supportive community in the city, and we ultimately decided it was not worth trading for a yard and bigger closets. I don't regret my decision nearly a decade later. I realize that you have bigger stakes in your decision, but if you're having doubts do not discount how difficult it may be for your family to break into social circles that have been well-established and tend to be insular. |
Anonymous
How does it make sense to do private school again? |
Anonymous
Private is the option for people who want to stay in the city but don’t have kids smart enough for the test in schools. Plenty of very affluent people decamp to the burbs and public school. |
Anonymous
IDK. There is a lot of weird "information" in this thread about where wealthy people live in the NY metro area and how they choose to educate their children. |
Anonymous
Scenario 1: Buy 1.5mm house in new Rochelle, pay 8k tax, send 1 kid to public for 6 years, 6 years to private. Scenario 2: Buy similar house in Scarsdale school district for 2.8mm, pay 70k property tax, send 1 kid to public for 12 years. Make sense now? |
Anonymous
Or your avg dual income family who want to support your kid to be an artist? Your thinking is based on imagination and not the real world. We have a couple Engineer + Medical biller who sent their youngest to a hybrid online private school so she can dance, now she is in Spain studying arts economics and plan to work in the dance world in some capacity. |
Anonymous
But you are super rich. Trust me public School was pretty damm rough in the 1970s. My parents left NYC in 1974 and never looked back. Long Island was Heaven. But if I was from DC towns like Westfield NY or even Ho Ho Kus is easier if going back to DC a lot by car as miss whole Bronx and GWB nonsense. I moved NYC to DMV for work and much more expensive here. Why well we no longer have starter homes close in with good school districts. They have all been torn down. My old town was full of 60x100 homes that were 1,500 to 1,800 sf in a town largely built before cars existed. My train station near my house was built 1880. So homes were built near train to NYC. There was no cars. Also my kids school was walking distance to my house and train. And with houses smaller prices smaller. I had an award winning school. When I moved here to get a house in a good school district, not so far out my neighborhood is more expensive. All the small homes are gone. Or never built in first place. Most of DMV built up after we all had cars. My current house is now worth 2 million in DMV. That is crazy. My old house is worth arund 775K now. If I still owned it. At my old house for years I mowed my lawn myself, shoveled my own walk, did my own home repairs and had plenty of mom and pop places nearby that charged 1/2 what they charge here. We knew all the neighbors, beach up the block, town had a resident pool. None of that is here. You need to be wealthy to have a beach house, join a pool club, live in a good school district close in near metro. And dont get me started on home repairs. It is triple here. And Before that I had a rent stabalized apt in Gramarcy park when single. Work paid for metro card, owned no car and my bagel truck on my block I got a bagel and small cup of coffee for one dollar. Where does that exist here? Call me Monther 15 bucks for an egg sanwhich with coffee, I was paying 5 bucks for that in Manahattan off the cart. |
Anonymous
Most people in this scenario have 2-3 kids and I do not think that tax is 10x higher in scarsdale. Also you don’t have to pay $2.8 mil for Scarsdale. |
Anonymous
No your “average dual income family” cannot pay for private school. Also your little vignette sounds like a financial disaster for all involved. I basically don’t know any families that paid for private school who really think it was that a good use of money unless the local schools were truly truly not an option. One relative even thinks it hurt her DD’s college chances because she didn’t get the GPA boost from APs. |
Anonymous
I think this is where Westchester school districts can be confusing. I gather you are saying that you may have a Scarsdale address but feed to a New Rochelle school. As a result, your property tax is quite low but the school options aren't great and you may go private. If you buy in Scarsdale and actually feed into Scarsdale schools, then your property tax is quite high (same if you feed into Bronxville schools or other high-performing districts). Scarsdale is often referenced because it has some of the highest performing public schools in the country. Scarsdale public school is also maybe the only public school district in the country that opted out of AP classes. They allow kids to sit for the tests but they don't have actual AP classes. They call them Advanced Topic classes. |
Anonymous
I'm not suggesting OP choose to live in the city, and I agree with you that---from a budget and lifestyle perspective---she will likely be sacrificing more than she'll be gaining with the move. She will be able to find a nice community in the NYC suburbs that will avoid that tradeoff, but it is likely going to be hard for her and her family from a social standpoint given the age of her children. That would be difficult in the city, as well, although it's more transient here and arguably less difficult to break in as a new family. |
Anonymous
Everyone in DC is too fixated on becoming developers with their stem degree CMU. In NYC broader region, lots of people (often the children of dual stem parents) are into design, arts and writing for podcasts. These jobs are just like accounting, you start out at 70k and work your way up. Designers can make 300k+ for the right contracts. Dancers make minimal wage but have access to artists apartments (dirt cheap) in NYC. It’s pretty cool to make things work for non-CS non - GS professionals! |