Trump/ICE deports a 4 year old girl (legal immigrant) who relies on daily nutrient transfusion to survive.

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Anonymous wrote:Also it can be given in the home in long term situations


First, TPN is available world wide. But several countries, including Mexico, have little to no availability of certain types (say liver sparing or kidney sparing). So no, this girl was not getting what she needed at home. Her parents applied for her humane parole, she was granted it, and now you guys are looking for people's to justify deporting this girl. This child.



Why doesn't Mexico have access to this type of TPN? I don't believe it for a second. If it can be ordered and provided here, it should not be an issue for Mexican health systems to administer it there.

We cannot import every sob story. We cannot afford to pay for this noncitizen's medical care for the remainder of her life, which will be DECADES of expensive care.

The cruelty was Biden giving this family a two-year pass, hoping they could stay here indefinitely. Ripping off the band-aid hurts, but needs to be done.


First, has has been explained the conditions of humanitarian parole means they need to be able to pay for the treatment themselves but you refuse to believe that. Here is the documentation:

" An important factor we consider in determining whether to authorize parole is whether the beneficiary will have a means of support while in the United States. We require evidence of an individual who agrees to financially support the beneficiary in the United States."

Secondly this is a statement from the child's doctor:

If there is an interruption in her daily nutrition system, called Total Parenteral Nutrition (TPN), the doctor wrote, “this could be fatal within a matter of days.”

“As such, patients on home TPN are not allowed to leave the country because the infrastructure to provide TPN or provide immediate intervention if there is a problem with IV access depends on our program’s utilization of U.S.-based healthcare resources and does not transfer across borders,” Arsenault wrote."

Thirdly you seem to know more than her doctor and the people who work at immigration and approved this.

The parents are here working, they're paying for their treatment and that's still not enough for you.



The parents are NOT paying for this treatment. Taxpayers are.


Link?


California insurance.

Link that parents are paying for this privately (and some indication of how on earth they could afford that with their jobs?!)
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Anonymous wrote:This is a very sad story but there are millions of sad stories. We cannot take in everyone who needs assistance. It's not sustainable. Perhaps, if our government had first focused on healthcare, jobs and education for our own citizens we wouldn't have Trump in office today. Perhaps, voters would be more sympathetic. Instead, each one of these stories is a reminder of the resources flowing to non-citizens. It's a net sum game for many voters at this point. They are seeing non-citizens receive services that they are unable to access for themselves. This is something that the liberal elite do not understand and why they will continue to lose elections. It's easy to be sanctimonious when your own kids are in private schools, your health care is affordable and your white collar job is secure.


Please stop with this nonsense! Trump has made $1 BILLION every month he’s been in office in 2025 because of his grifting. He has more billionaires in his cabinet than any predecessor and tons of people in his admin have made tens of millions in the market manipulation (where Dems lost money). So spare me. MAGA and the GOP are the party of elites and you know it.


so what do you think the US immigration policy should be?
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Anonymous wrote:I am fine with her staying as long as the above posters are paying for the care and not just tax payers.


I’m fine with the anti-choice weirdos if they buck up to pay for raising the children.


This child is Mexican. What does that have to do with forced birth in the US? Taxpayers aren't responsible for her care.


I’m fine with criminalizing murder so long as you pay to support everyone I don’t kill.

Come on, that’s such a tired and illogical pro abortion argument.
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Anonymous wrote:I am fine with her staying as long as the above posters are paying for the care and not just tax payers.


You’re truly despicable. Do you how much is taxpayers have paid for the felon’s and Elon’s grift? Don’t see you ballyhooing about that expense, which is exponentially more.

I feel sad for you.


Oh give me a break. American taxpayers can’t finance every healthcare situation in the world.


As you know, they're not financing every healthcare situation in the world. But is this the argument you're making as to why you support this particular child's death?
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Anonymous wrote:She lived in Mexico for 2 years with this condition before they crossed on a temporary visa. She can live in Mexico and be treated there. They prefer the medical treatments here. This sounds like a lifelong condition. Is the expectation that she lives here indefinitely?


Of course. They want her to stay forever (with her whole family of course!) and for US taxpayers to pay forever.


Or, until her family is afforded due process and a reasonable amount of time (you know a couple months) has been given for her medical team to develop a continuity of care plan— in Mexico or a third country.


Temporary, that was the status given. Temporary means that it will end.

Well, times up; she can get this same treatment in Mexico. I know the racist doctors in San Diego said that Mexican people are incapable of giving TPN and maintaining IV access, but I am pretty sure they can handle it. And pay for it.


I’m glad you know more than her doctors. I hope when you get cancer, DCUM armchair mornings get to decide your treatment plan.


Luckily for me, I live in the US and am a US citizen who has paid decades into Medicade/Medicare, so I will happily get treatment in my home country and not demand it elsewhere.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also it can be given in the home in long term situations


First, TPN is available world wide. But several countries, including Mexico, have little to no availability of certain types (say liver sparing or kidney sparing). So no, this girl was not getting what she needed at home. Her parents applied for her humane parole, she was granted it, and now you guys are looking for people's to justify deporting this girl. This child.



Why doesn't Mexico have access to this type of TPN? I don't believe it for a second. If it can be ordered and provided here, it should not be an issue for Mexican health systems to administer it there.

We cannot import every sob story. We cannot afford to pay for this noncitizen's medical care for the remainder of her life, which will be DECADES of expensive care.

The cruelty was Biden giving this family a two-year pass, hoping they could stay here indefinitely. Ripping off the band-aid hurts, but needs to be done.


First, has has been explained the conditions of humanitarian parole means they need to be able to pay for the treatment themselves but you refuse to believe that. Here is the documentation:

" An important factor we consider in determining whether to authorize parole is whether the beneficiary will have a means of support while in the United States. We require evidence of an individual who agrees to financially support the beneficiary in the United States."

Secondly this is a statement from the child's doctor:

If there is an interruption in her daily nutrition system, called Total Parenteral Nutrition (TPN), the doctor wrote, “this could be fatal within a matter of days.”

“As such, patients on home TPN are not allowed to leave the country because the infrastructure to provide TPN or provide immediate intervention if there is a problem with IV access depends on our program’s utilization of U.S.-based healthcare resources and does not transfer across borders,” Arsenault wrote."

Thirdly you seem to know more than her doctor and the people who work at immigration and approved this.

The parents are here working, they're paying for their treatment and that's still not enough for you.



The parents are NOT paying for this treatment. Taxpayers are.


Link?


California insurance.

Link that parents are paying for this privately (and some indication of how on earth they could afford that with their jobs?!)


The LA Times reported that her care is being covered by US taxpayers, MediCal

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-05-27/deportation-trump-healthcare-immigration-humanitarian
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am fine with her staying as long as the above posters are paying for the care and not just tax payers.


You’re truly despicable. Do you how much is taxpayers have paid for the felon’s and Elon’s grift? Don’t see you ballyhooing about that expense, which is exponentially more.

I feel sad for you.


Oh give me a break. American taxpayers can’t finance every healthcare situation in the world.


As you know, they're not financing every healthcare situation in the world. But is this the argument you're making as to why you support this particular child's death?


She received a two year humanitarian parole to stabilize which she has, and she can access care in Mexico.
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Her own lawyer is quoted saying that there appears to have been a mistake, and this “news” outlet never waited to publish before getting the government’s comments on this case. I think she will be allowed to stay once this has sorted out. She received deportation notice a month ago but still hasn’t been forced to leave.
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Anonymous wrote:When confronted with the fact that the parents are paying for this treatment.... When confronted with the fact that they are here legally.. when confronted with the fact that the doctor says that this treatment has to happen within us borders.. all these idiots can come up with are ad hominem attacks and weird ass deflections about the Pole.

They've lost the plot in the argument and this is all they have. Their dark bitter souls bear to the world


They are absolutely not paying for this treatment. California taxpayers are. An article in the LA times states the girl is on medi-cal (the CA version of medicaid), ""S.G.V.’s care is covered through Medi-Cal."
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-05-27/deportation-trump-healthcare-immigration-humanitarian


The father is an uber Driver from Colombia and the mother works cleaning restaurants and is from the Mexican state of Oaxaca. The parents met in Cancun, where they were working. Just before S.G.V. was born, the couple moved to nearby Playa del Carmen so her husband could work as an Uber driver. The girl spent most of her life in a hospital in Playa del Carmen, Mexico, tethered to feeding tubes 24 hours a day. She has short bowel syndrome, a rare condition that prevents her body from completely absorbing the nutrients of regular food. Doctors told them to relocate to Mexico City to get better care.

So when they heard the US government begun offering migrants appointments with border agents through a phone application called CBP One they signed up. Those let in received two-year protection from deportation and work permits. The father "told agents that he had once been kidnapped by cartel members in Mexico who extorted money and threatened to kill him. They also looked at the girl, whose vulnerable condition was obvious."

It would be heartbreaking for her to go back to Mexico since she is already here, but the US need better policies on who is let in and who isn't long-term. And if they accept people who cost a substantial amount to care for then the federal government should be responsible not each city or county or state.

People talk about Canada and Australia and wanting to leave for those countries. Neither of those countries allow anyone who is going to cost their health care or education system to easily immigrate or once in those country to stay. No allowing elderly migrant parents to immigrate and use expensive free health care. Australia has visa health care requirements. A few years ago a German doctor who was who legally working in Australia in a rural area was denied permanent residency because he had a son with Down syndrome and was judged by officials as likely to be a permanent drain on taxpayer funding due to his condition.


+1. No other country in the world allows you to cross the border and stay for free healthcare. None.


So you’re fine with her dying.

Question. She’s here legally. If her mother were here legally and wanted an abortion at 20 weeks, would that be fine? What if the mother came her legally while pregnant and she was born here as a citizen? Would you be okay with her being deported with mom as toddler and dying?

Where does “pro-life” draw the line?



I'm pro-choice. And in favor of strong borders and fiscal responsibility. I'm not in favor of providing free healthcare to any person who can't get the care they want in their home country. I'm also pro gun control. Unusual, I know.


I asked the pro life crowd. Anyone? Bueller?


Do you think every patient needing TPN worldwide should be allowed to fly here and get taxpayer covered care indefinitely? What about every patient needing a transplant? Should we extend one patient’s two year pause but in doing so, refuse entry to another child just as needy?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am fine with her staying as long as the above posters are paying for the care and not just tax payers.


You’re truly despicable. Do you how much is taxpayers have paid for the felon’s and Elon’s grift? Don’t see you ballyhooing about that expense, which is exponentially more.

I feel sad for you.


Oh give me a break. American taxpayers can’t finance every healthcare situation in the world.


As you know, they're not financing every healthcare situation in the world. But is this the argument you're making as to why you support this particular child's death?


She received a two year humanitarian parole to stabilize which she has, and she can access care in Mexico.


How do you know she can access care in Mexico? Are you familiar with her case?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am fine with her staying as long as the above posters are paying for the care and not just tax payers.


You’re truly despicable. Do you how much is taxpayers have paid for the felon’s and Elon’s grift? Don’t see you ballyhooing about that expense, which is exponentially more.

I feel sad for you.


Oh give me a break. American taxpayers can’t finance every healthcare situation in the world.


As you know, they're not financing every healthcare situation in the world. But is this the argument you're making as to why you support this particular child's death?


She received a two year humanitarian parole to stabilize which she has, and she can access care in Mexico.


How do you know she can access care in Mexico? Are you familiar with her case?


Because she was receiving her care in Mexico before her family came over here, Jesus read the numerous articles that had been posted.
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“Any reporting that Vargas and her family are actively being deported are FALSE. This family applied with USCIS for humanitarian parole on May 14, 2025, and the application is still being considered,” a senior DHS official said.
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Why do people post such false things on this board with inflammatory false headlines?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She lived in Mexico for 2 years with this condition before they crossed on a temporary visa. She can live in Mexico and be treated there. They prefer the medical treatments here. This sounds like a lifelong condition. Is the expectation that she lives here indefinitely?


Of course. They want her to stay forever (with her whole family of course!) and for US taxpayers to pay forever.


Or, until her family is afforded due process and a reasonable amount of time (you know a couple months) has been given for her medical team to develop a continuity of care plan— in Mexico or a third country.


Temporary, that was the status given. Temporary means that it will end.

Well, times up; she can get this same treatment in Mexico. I know the racist doctors in San Diego said that Mexican people are incapable of giving TPN and maintaining IV access, but I am pretty sure they can handle it. And pay for it.


I’m glad you know more than her doctors. I hope when you get cancer, DCUM armchair mornings get to decide your treatment plan.


Luckily for me, I live in the US and am a US citizen who has paid decades into Medicade/Medicare, so I will happily get treatment in my home country and not demand it elsewhere.




LOLOLOLOLOL….

Keep thinking that as The One Big Beaautiful Bill passes chump.
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Anonymous wrote:“Any reporting that Vargas and her family are actively being deported are FALSE. This family applied with USCIS for humanitarian parole on May 14, 2025, and the application is still being considered,” a senior DHS official said.


So the MAGA ghouls in this thread are going to end up out-Trumping Trump. Surprising that a few here are so interested in condemning a 4-year old to death.
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