White collar jobs are all about to become obsolete. What are you doing to prepare?

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Anonymous wrote:My boys are apprenticing in the trades. Plumbing and HVAC.

They’ll be just fine.

What about when the white collar workers don’t have money anymore to pay them for their work?

Or when everybody's kids have learned the trades, so they all DIY the work.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone have a good link on how/why/when or evidence that white collar jobs are going away?

Yes I could google it, but since many here are totally convinced it's happening, I want to see what you're reading.

You comes off kind of passive aggressive. When you say with “Yeah, I could just Google it,” you admit you do not really need help, so it feels like you are testing us rather than really asking. Saying “since many here are totally convinced” hints that you think we are gullible, and “totally” ramps up your sarcasm. “I want to see what you’re reading” flips the burden on us prove a point. You are scoffing while pretending to be polite.

So, go to google and do a search.

You just sound really awkward and weird.

Anonymous internet person, you don’t have the authority or personal standing to define who I am, so the names you throw out won’t change my reputation or self-worth in the eyes of anyone else reading or make me question them myself. You may not be a real person, and if you are, you are just bunch of 000s and 1111s, a nothingness.

NP. Recently there's been a rash of people calling other people's comments "bots" and "AI".

I really think people are starting to get a bit paranoid.

I think it's hard to prepare for the impact of AI right now. I'm working with people who are interested in using it at my job. So far, we aren't even 1% of the way towards implementing it for what we want to use it for.

I am saving a lot of money and if and when I lose my job, then I will assess the hiring market I face at that time and look for lower-paid jobs I can do.

I agree with PP's above that something's in the wind but it's not AI. It's the economic and policy uncertainty related to the Trump Administration's chaotic and uninformed policies. Companies are freezing hiring until there are more clear positive signals. Before the election, they were slowing hiring out of prudence in case of a pivot. Now they don't know what to do that will guarantee positive results.

This period reminds me of the time around the Persian Gulf War in 1991, 2001 when the tech stocks crashed, and 2008-2009. Things will improve cyclically again.

Sucks to be at mid-life for this, I agree. But it's never been easy to be Gen-X.

I'm Gen X too. AI is going to dominate everything - within a year, maybe two. It's accelerating every day. I use it for about 50-75 percent of my job now. My kids are running complex economic models on it and coding and creating app prototypes on it. It did my taxes flawlessly, it diagnoses all my medical conditions and analyzes all my blood tests, and it's answering all my emails now. More broadly, it's beginning to make huge drug and medical breakthroughs. This week it started making movies on demand: "Make a movie with Tom Cruise going to the moon...." It's taking over the stock market. It's writing books. It's producing the majority of content on Substack. For the moment, it still has hallucinations, but those are fewer and fewer. We're all going to have personal AI assistants within two years, and self-driving AI cars will dominate way before electric cars ever will. If you're not following Sam Altman and others like him, you're going to be shocked as each of these things happens out of the blue for you. Society is going to change. We may not get to keep our homes. We will lose our jobs. We may not even survive. It's fascinating and terrifying. Futurists from MIT say that AGI will ultimately team up and turn on humans. Who knows? But life is about to change in ways we can't even imagine.

100% BS

Pssst: it was written by AI. A bot can dream, ya know?

[Anonymous]

I’m not interested in watching garbage movies made by AI.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's a decent counter narrative:

https://www.wheresyoured.at/wheres-the-money/

Thanks for citing sources, PP.

That is a good article. Some of the findings reblogged come from "The Information". That's a paid subscription digital news site run by really good tech reporters who came from the familiar old media backgrounds we all know (NYT, etc.). I paid to read it at a former job ($300ish per year). Paying being the proof of quality.

I am in a corporate F500 role. I am seeing the attempts to make AI do work and therefore save money somehow. I watched the rise of the Internet for regular home and work use. All of the white collar jobs that I've had could have been done pretty well before the Internet's wide adoption and still exist today. Despite the fact that the Internet has definitely been transformative.

When you have to work with/experience the stumbling of automated systems, it feels a lot different than the hype. Think of the analogy of working with a chatbot when you have a question more sophisticated than what would show up in a FAQ.

The PP (on this thread or a similar recent one) who said AI coding is unnecessarily complex...cheaper to produce but expensive to maintain...had some interesting points. I will be interested to see how this plays out.

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I am not preparing because I am unconcerned. Job loss due to automation has been a concern for a few hundred years, but hasn't happened yet. I am genuinely not worried.

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Anonymous wrote:Just remember Sam Altman would not help his sister who is struggling. This is the man who will control your future.

And some conflict/accusations too related to that

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not interested in watching garbage movies made by AI.

You kinda have been for 25 years or more in a roundabout way. CGI, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone have a good link on how/why/when or evidence that white collar jobs are going away?

Yes I could google it, but since many here are totally convinced it's happening, I want to see what you're reading.

You comes off kind of passive aggressive. When you say with “Yeah, I could just Google it,” you admit you do not really need help, so it feels like you are testing us rather than really asking. Saying “since many here are totally convinced” hints that you think we are gullible, and “totally” ramps up your sarcasm. “I want to see what you’re reading” flips the burden on us prove a point. You are scoffing while pretending to be polite.

So, go to google and do a search.

You just sound really awkward and weird.

Anonymous internet person, you don’t have the authority or personal standing to define who I am, so the names you throw out won’t change my reputation or self-worth in the eyes of anyone else reading or make me question them myself. You may not be a real person, and if you are, you are just bunch of 000s and 1111s, a nothingness.

NP. Recently there's been a rash of people calling other people's comments "bots" and "AI".

I really think people are starting to get a bit paranoid.

You need to learn more about changes to online forums, "news" sites, discussion sites, etc. Dead Internet Theory is a good rabbit hole to explore for you.