HS Math- which class to take

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Taking MV might even be a negative in some cases.

If they see you have MV, that conveys a set of expectations to the AO. The kid has taken advanced math. Why? Are they interested in the subject and thus taken the advanced class or did their parents fast track math for perceived admission advantage? How did they use it?

If you have MV and you made USAJMO or USAMO, that tells the AO that you are interested in math, they can see a link. Maybe you pursued some other opportunities. Maybe you listed math as a major.

Absent these, you list MV and you did not even get a good score on AIME, they know you are meh in math.

Competition math is not as impressive for college admissions as it used to be. AIME means very little. MVC will be a far better investment for advanced courses in physics.

AIME means very little. But if you cannot even make a good score on AIME, it shows that you are just accelerated and not really strong in math.

MV shows you are accelerated. Then they ask how come, why? No AIME score? Assumption is probably a helicopter parent who pushed kid into MV. This is for T20 privates. Others don't give a hoot.

so all students in mv that don't do math competitions are assumed to be only accelerated? got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taking MV might even be a negative in some cases.

If they see you have MV, that conveys a set of expectations to the AO. The kid has taken advanced math. Why? Are they interested in the subject and thus taken the advanced class or did their parents fast track math for perceived admission advantage? How did they use it?

If you have MV and you made USAJMO or USAMO, that tells the AO that you are interested in math, they can see a link. Maybe you pursued some other opportunities. Maybe you listed math as a major.

Absent these, you list MV and you did not even get a good score on AIME, they know you are meh in math.

Competition math is not as impressive for college admissions as it used to be. AIME means very little. MVC will be a far better investment for advanced courses in physics.

AIME means very little. But if you cannot even make a good score on AIME, it shows that you are just accelerated and not really strong in math.

MV shows you are accelerated. Then they ask how come, why? No AIME score? Assumption is probably a helicopter parent who pushed kid into MV. This is for T20 privates. Others don't give a hoot.

Competition math is a waste of time unless you dedicate yourself to solving those types of problems to reach Olympiad level. There are ways of going deep in math without doing competition math (and my kid knows plenty of kids who were pushed into competition math from middle schoolh That is all they do).

[Anonymous]

Math competitions? My kid would rather play baseball. He wants to own the company, not work for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taking MV might even be a negative in some cases.

If they see you have MV, that conveys a set of expectations to the AO. The kid has taken advanced math. Why? Are they interested in the subject and thus taken the advanced class or did their parents fast track math for perceived admission advantage? How did they use it?

If you have MV and you made USAJMO or USAMO, that tells the AO that you are interested in math, they can see a link. Maybe you pursued some other opportunities. Maybe you listed math as a major.

Absent these, you list MV and you did not even get a good score on AIME, they know you are meh in math.

Competition math is not as impressive for college admissions as it used to be. AIME means very little. MVC will be a far better investment for advanced courses in physics.

AIME means very little. But if you cannot even make a good score on AIME, it shows that you are just accelerated and not really strong in math.

MV shows you are accelerated. Then they ask how come, why? No AIME score? Assumption is probably a helicopter parent who pushed kid into MV. This is for T20 privates. Others don't give a hoot.

Competition math is a waste of time unless you dedicate yourself to solving those types of problems to reach Olympiad level. There are ways of going deep in math without doing competition math (and my kid knows plenty of kids who were pushed into competition math from middle schoolh That is all they do).

Agree with this. In college nobody cares about geometry and number theory unless a math major. Calculus (1-3), statistics and linear algebra are the core of all lower division stem majors. USAMO may move the needle but there a huge risk and opportunity cost. Solving problems alone in your room is the opposite of what colleges want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Math competitions? My kid would rather play baseball. He wants to own the company, not work for it.

How’s your kid going to own the company?

[Anonymous]

The math competitions are great for kids who want it but I’d rather have a well rounded kid who can pursue multiple interests. If a school doesn’t want them as they don’t do competitions so be it. If taking Mv as a junior isn’t enough they don’t deserve them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Math competitions? My kid would rather play baseball. He wants to own the company, not work for it.

How’s your kid going to own the company?

Plenty of people own companies without your silly math competitions. You are ultra competitive and it’s silly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taking MV might even be a negative in some cases.

If they see you have MV, that conveys a set of expectations to the AO. The kid has taken advanced math. Why? Are they interested in the subject and thus taken the advanced class or did their parents fast track math for perceived admission advantage? How did they use it?

If you have MV and you made USAJMO or USAMO, that tells the AO that you are interested in math, they can see a link. Maybe you pursued some other opportunities. Maybe you listed math as a major.

Absent these, you list MV and you did not even get a good score on AIME, they know you are meh in math.

Competition math is not as impressive for college admissions as it used to be. AIME means very little. MVC will be a far better investment for advanced courses in physics.

AIME means very little. But if you cannot even make a good score on AIME, it shows that you are just accelerated and not really strong in math.

MV shows you are accelerated. Then they ask how come, why? No AIME score? Assumption is probably a helicopter parent who pushed kid into MV. This is for T20 privates. Others don't give a hoot.

Nobody cares about the AIME score when applying to Engineering at MIT. Advanced coursework like MV does matter more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Math competitions? My kid would rather play baseball. He wants to own the company, not work for it.

How’s your kid going to own the company?

Plenty of people own companies without your silly math competitions. You are ultra competitive and it’s silly.

DP. Not saying math competitions are the way to go but it’s equally silly to claim your kid will own the company by playing baseball in high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The math competitions are great for kids who want it but I’d rather have a well rounded kid who can pursue multiple interests. If a school doesn’t want them as they don’t do competitions so be it. If taking Mv as a junior isn’t enough they don’t deserve them.

Why do you assume that high level math competition kids aren't well rounded? My USAJMO qualifier kid also plays in a high level youth orchestra, dabbles in music composition, and is a strong writer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The math competitions are great for kids who want it but I’d rather have a well rounded kid who can pursue multiple interests. If a school doesn’t want them as they don’t do competitions so be it. If taking Mv as a junior isn’t enough they don’t deserve them.

Why do you assume that high level math competition kids aren't well rounded? My USAJMO qualifier kid also plays in a high level youth orchestra, dabbles in music composition, and is a strong writer.

At least your kid broke the stereotype!

Or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The math competitions are great for kids who want it but I’d rather have a well rounded kid who can pursue multiple interests. If a school doesn’t want them as they don’t do competitions so be it. If taking Mv as a junior isn’t enough they don’t deserve them.

Why do you assume that high level math competition kids aren't well rounded? My USAJMO qualifier kid also plays in a high level youth orchestra, dabbles in music composition, and is a strong writer.

Most of these activities are solitary. Orchestra involves other people yes but primarily you're practicing alone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The math competitions are great for kids who want it but I’d rather have a well rounded kid who can pursue multiple interests. If a school doesn’t want them as they don’t do competitions so be it. If taking Mv as a junior isn’t enough they don’t deserve them.

Why do you assume that high level math competition kids aren't well rounded? My USAJMO qualifier kid also plays in a high level youth orchestra, dabbles in music composition, and is a strong writer.

At least your kid broke the stereotype!

Or not.

PP here, and actually, my kid really did break the stereotype. We're not Asian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The math competitions are great for kids who want it but I’d rather have a well rounded kid who can pursue multiple interests. If a school doesn’t want them as they don’t do competitions so be it. If taking Mv as a junior isn’t enough they don’t deserve them.

Why do you assume that high level math competition kids aren't well rounded? My USAJMO qualifier kid also plays in a high level youth orchestra, dabbles in music composition, and is a strong writer.

Most of these activities are solitary. Orchestra involves other people yes but primarily you're practicing alone.

Way to move the goalposts. The first PP suggested that kids who do math competitions can't be well rounded and able to pursue multiple interests. Now, the quibble is that the interests are too solitary?

FWIW, high level regional youth orchestras involve a lot of time with other kids. You aren't primarily practicing alone. It is definitely not a solitary or even mostly solitary activity.

[Anonymous]

Question settled. MV is an easy path to HYPSM and Ivies. Do MV and AO's are falling over themselves to admit your kid.