It really is SUCH a huge disadvantage to be applying to college from the DMV

[Anonymous]

my unhooked kids did great coming out of a top private hs in nyc. if you were in the top half of the class (which wasn't easy), schools like BC or Middlebury and Hamilton and GW were safeties. All gravy from there.

The process was only really hard for parents who wouldnt be happy with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:my unhooked kids did great coming out of a top private hs in nyc. if you were in the top half of the class (which wasn't easy), schools like BC or Middlebury and Hamilton and GW were safeties. All gravy from there.

The process was only really hard for parents who wouldnt be happy with that.

No one seriously thinks those schools are safeties! Come on, PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

No one seriously thinks those schools are safeties! Come on, PP.

NP. BC and GW are very certainly safeties for good students at the top eight or ten privates in New York City.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No one seriously thinks those schools are safeties! Come on, PP.

NP. BC and GW are very certainly safeties for good students at the top eight or ten privates in New York City.

NP.
GW and BC are not in the same league. BC is a reach where I live and GW is a safety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Try living in NJ if you think the DMV is bad.

Or NYC. There are at least a dozen tippity top high schools with at least a couple of *thousand* Ivy material graduates among them every year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my unhooked kids did great coming out of a top private hs in nyc. if you were in the top half of the class (which wasn't easy), schools like BC or Middlebury and Hamilton and GW were safeties. All gravy from there.

The process was only really hard for parents who wouldnt be happy with that.

No one seriously thinks those schools are safeties! Come on, PP.

They are for the top kids at an elite NYC school. At the best privates in New York, 40% go to Ivies + Stanford and MIT every year. UVA, Michigan, Georgetown are safeties at these schools for the top half of the class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my unhooked kids did great coming out of a top private hs in nyc. if you were in the top half of the class (which wasn't easy), schools like BC or Middlebury and Hamilton and GW were safeties. All gravy from there.

The process was only really hard for parents who wouldnt be happy with that.

No one seriously thinks those schools are safeties! Come on, PP.

They are for the top kids at an elite NYC school. At the best privates in New York, 40% go to Ivies + Stanford and MIT every year. UVA, Michigan, Georgetown are safeties at these schools for the top half of the class.

But they aren't safeties if these top kids at an NYC are anything special. If anything, they'll get yield protected if their stats are so great.

For these t types, it's either HYPS or SUNY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my unhooked kids did great coming out of a top private hs in nyc. if you were in the top half of the class (which wasn't easy), schools like BC or Middlebury and Hamilton and GW were safeties. All gravy from there.

The process was only really hard for parents who wouldnt be happy with that.

No one seriously thinks those schools are safeties! Come on, PP.

They are for the top kids at an elite NYC school. At the best privates in New York, 40% go to Ivies + Stanford and MIT every year. UVA, Michigan, Georgetown are safeties at these schools for the top half of the class.

Those are heavily hooked schools. An unhooked kid around the 50 percentile is not going to take BC as safeties.

[Anonymous]

I live in underrepresented state and even if kids from here get into top schools they usually can’t afford it to go.

Even with 100% tuition scholarships they can afford 30-40K living expenses.

But the education here is so subpar I wonder who makes it out of here at all.

At DC’s top magnet school kids aim to get 3 on AP exam and take very few APs. There’s grade inflation too and many of them struggle in college because the study habits are not there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my unhooked kids did great coming out of a top private hs in nyc. if you were in the top half of the class (which wasn't easy), schools like BC or Middlebury and Hamilton and GW were safeties. All gravy from there.

The process was only really hard for parents who wouldnt be happy with that.

No one seriously thinks those schools are safeties! Come on, PP.

at our school, safety for kids in top half of the class. those are kids who also have 1500 on the sat. it's a competitive cohort

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my unhooked kids did great coming out of a top private hs in nyc. if you were in the top half of the class (which wasn't easy), schools like BC or Middlebury and Hamilton and GW were safeties. All gravy from there.

The process was only really hard for parents who wouldnt be happy with that.

No one seriously thinks those schools are safeties! Come on, PP.

They are for the top kids at an elite NYC school. At the best privates in New York, 40% go to Ivies + Stanford and MIT every year. UVA, Michigan, Georgetown are safeties at these schools for the top half of the class.

But they aren't safeties if these top kids at an NYC are anything special. If anything, they'll get yield protected if their stats are so great.

For these t types, it's either HYPS or SUNY.

we have 2-3 kids going to a SUNY in the entire class. we have questbridge kids - those are hooked first gen kids. they go to T10 schools.

and because these high schools limit applications, colleges dont yield protect.

limited applications is really powerful. I wish more people understood it and would push for it

[Anonymous]

Might expand search to top25 LAC’s like Colgate, Holy Cross, or Colby. Very good grad outcomes from all 3 schools,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But keep in mind, it's not always sunshine and rainbows for those you deem "lesser" who were accepted into ivies or T20.

My nephew from GA was accepted into Penn and has struggled this entire first year. He's on academic probation right now after failing to maintain a 2.0 his first semester. My SIL said right now he's above a 2.0 for this semester but just barely. He was top of his class at his GA private but their academic rigor clearly wasn't where it should have been. His private didn't even offer AP courses! That's a big red flag, IMO. They tout it as "not teaching to the test" but look what happens when you don't teach to the same standard as most other schools - your students come out unprepared.

The funny part is that the private is now likely bragging about his acceptance, and more parents will be fooled into paying a premium for a substandard education. This will continue unless your nephew or SIL comes forward and educates parents about the quality of the education they're paying for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Try living in NJ if you think the DMV is bad.

+1. Or suburban NY.

+1
I'm on Long Island. Bloodbath. Insanely rigorous schools, insanely talented kids. Looking at the acceptances without context, you would think, maybe this is just not a good high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in underrepresented state and even if kids from here get into top schools they usually can’t afford it to go.

Even with 100% tuition scholarships they can afford 30-40K living expenses.

But the education here is so subpar I wonder who makes it out of here at all.

At DC’s top magnet school kids aim to get 3 on AP exam and take very few APs. There’s grade inflation too and many of them struggle in college because the study habits are not there.

I think you underestimate how generous HYPSM financial aid is. Do an NPC from Harvard or MIT to see.