It really is SUCH a huge disadvantage to be applying to college from the DMV

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What I found is that it really is such a huge disadvantage to be applying to college from private high schools, particularly the elite rigorous ones. For four years, everyone is highly driven. The teachers never give you a sense of achievement, there is always more to be done. B is a good grade, you have to do your absolute best to earn that A. When the college application season comes, you found out T20 can only take hooked plus a few unhooked from your school.

I agree private schools with grade deflation are not good for college admissions but they are a good investment in the long run.

+1. Both the quality of the education and the network, which at the top privates resembles that of the Ivies.

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feel sorry for op: clueless.


Boston, Ny/nj, bay area, dallas - all are crazy competitive.

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Anonymous wrote:my unhooked kids did great coming out of a top private hs in nyc. if you were in the top half of the class (which wasn't easy), schools like BC or Middlebury and Hamilton and GW were safeties. All gravy from there.

The process was only really hard for parents who wouldnt be happy with that.

No one seriously thinks those schools are safeties! Come on, PP.

They are for the top kids at an elite NYC school. At the best privates in New York, 40% go to Ivies + Stanford and MIT every year. UVA, Michigan, Georgetown are safeties at these schools for the top half of the class.

Which NYC private send 40% to ivy+ every year?

Trinity doesn't, Dalton doesn't, Horace Mann doesn't.

Collegiate might but their graduating class is like 50 students.

Maybe if you added SLAC but even then, I doubt it.

NYC boy parent so don't quote me on this as I don't know a ton about girls schools, but I have heard that Nightingale has been really strong lately.

Horace Mann sent a small heard to Chicago a year or two ago. Not Ivy+ but still impressive. I was amazed Chicago would take so many kids from one school.

Though one could argue if you took the alma maters of the parents at these schools, the students are actually almost underperforming - i'm guessing 40+% of parents at many of these schools went to Ivy+. Many kids are ending up at great schools but worse than where their parents went.

I know someone in that Horace Mann class at Chicago. I think it was something like 20-21 seniors that year going to Chicago alone. In a class of about 2,000 freshman at Chicago, that represents 1% of the Chicago class from Horace Mann!

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Anonymous wrote:feel sorry for op: clueless.


Boston, Ny/nj, bay area, dallas - all are crazy competitive.

Add LA and the Chicago burbs to the list.

The point is it's very competitive from every major metropolitan area where there are highly educated professionals with kids. But those are also the places that have the peer groups, the schools, the resources, and general expectations that allow students to have successful college outcomes. It is incredibly difficult to raise a Princeton or MIT student in small town America. Those kids are unicorns. Generally, the resources, peers, and school quality aren't available in rural and small town America to support an ambitious or talented student.

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Anonymous wrote:feel sorry for op: clueless.


Boston, Ny/nj, bay area, dallas - all are crazy competitive.

Add LA and the Chicago burbs to the list.

The point is it's very competitive from every major metropolitan area where there are highly educated professionals with kids. But those are also the places that have the peer groups, the schools, the resources, and general expectations that allow students to have successful college outcomes. It is incredibly difficult to raise a Princeton or MIT student in small town America. Those kids are unicorns. Generally, the resources, peers, and school quality aren't available in rural and small town America to support an ambitious or talented student.

Is it though? Is it really? Aren't we told over and over that one thing colleges look for are ambitious, curious kids ,kids with drive, yadda yadda? That you can't fake this or have parents push them?

With the internet, these kids in small town and rural America have access to everything. They have no excuse not to succeed academically. Maybe they will not get the full range out ECs outside of schools, but if colleges only looked at ECs sanctioned by school that's not a problem

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Anonymous wrote:Brearley does. (Send over 40% to these schools)

I’m sure Regis guys can consider Georgetown a safety.

This is school by school.

I know Spence is very strong this year and last year and has sent more than 40% to ivy+. This year almost 20% is going to HYMPS itself. Brearley does very well.

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Anonymous wrote:Brearley does. (Send over 40% to these schools)

I’m sure Regis guys can consider Georgetown a safety.

This is school by school.

I know Spence is very strong this year and last year and has sent more than 40% to ivy+. This year almost 20% is going to HYMPS itself. Brearley does very well.

But given that their admit rates are very low, aren't those private schools simply just admitting students already likely to get in to HYPSM even if they went to a public high school?