MSDC Seats and Waitlist Offer Data - updated to include 2025-26 data

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious about Munro Verde - JF Cook campus. It looks like this year they offered 62 seats for K and last year only offers 25. Is this the result of an expansion, or we think them wanting to fill spots early and not go to the waitlist? We got in there but are leaning towards staying at our neighborhood school so just trying to see if there’s a sense of what’s going on.

I think it's because they need to host the calle Ocho preschoolers while calle Ocho has construction done.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious about Munro Verde - JF Cook campus. It looks like this year they offered 62 seats for K and last year only offers 25. Is this the result of an expansion, or we think them wanting to fill spots early and not go to the waitlist? We got in there but are leaning towards staying at our neighborhood school so just trying to see if there’s a sense of what’s going on.

I think it's because they need to host the calle Ocho preschoolers while calle Ocho has construction done.

Wait no, other way around. I don't know. Maybe low retention?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious about Munro Verde - JF Cook campus. It looks like this year they offered 62 seats for K and last year only offers 25. Is this the result of an expansion, or we think them wanting to fill spots early and not go to the waitlist? We got in there but are leaning towards staying at our neighborhood school so just trying to see if there’s a sense of what’s going on.

I think it's because they need to host the calle Ocho preschoolers while calle Ocho has construction done.

Wait no, other way around. I don't know. Maybe low retention?

Cook campus had a parent revolt. But wasn’t that 2 years ago?

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Anonymous wrote:Can a kid without sibling preference get into a school over a kid with sibling preference? I thought the answer was no but might be confused.

I believe if a kid with sibling preference ranks the school at which they have sibling preference, but matches at something they ranked higher, they will be waitlisted in the sibling category at the school where they have sibling preference. So a kid without sibling preference could match over them.

Sibling preference can be lost if the sibling leaves the school.

I don’t think that’s correct at all. You are not waitlisted at schools you ranked below your match, period. That’s why the number one rule of the lottery is to rank your choices in your true order of preference.

On the issue of whether a kid without sibling preference can get in over sibling preference - my understanding is that every school sets its own policy for priority groups - sibling, inbound, proximity, children of staff, etc. so the answer to that is depends on which school.

Thanks for the response- that is what I thought. Let’s say it’s two kids who have in-boundary preference, and one of them also has sibling preference. No other preferences for either kid and this is a DCPS school. The kid with sibling and in boundary preference should be admitted before kids with just in boundary preference is my understanding.

There are different buckets based on how a school does preference. In your example those two kids aren't even in the same bucket. This is all crystal clear. It is in no way a mystery. Take Maury as an example. The order of preference is:

1. In-boundary w Sibling Attending
2. In-boundary w Sibling Offered
3. In-boundary
4. Sibling Attending
5. Sibling Offered
6. Proximity

My School DC is run VERY well and their website and supporting info is quite good. Would suggest taking a few minutes to review, PP.

Based on your example a kid with in boundary cannot get in before a kid with in boundary sibling attending. Someone told me they were waitlisted but other kids who only had in boundary were admitted. Hence my question to this “crystal clear” situation. But thanks for the condescension.

"Someone told you" something that didn't happen. My condescension is a reaction to people who prioritize neighborhood scuttlebutt over facts. In a world and city where facts and science and data are being discounted I have no patience for it. What you were told did not happen as long as everyone's addresses were correct, no one matched at a school higher on their WL and no one qualified for equitable access. In the Maury example 3 IB kids were admitted from EA. Maybe you should confront the person "you heard" got in with only IB and demand to know their financial situation?

What happens a lot around lottery time is people who didn't get a match get bitter about what other people got.

The lottery data has been posted. What school was this? You can see for yourself the preferences that were and were not admitted.

Not exactly. The tableau shows you which groups matched but not how many more applicants there were in that group who did not match.

Using the Maury preferences as an example. Let’s say there are 10 preK4 spots for the lottery; all the rest taken up by returning kids. 4 slots go to IB/sib, 6 go to IB. You don’t actually know how many IB kids didn’t get a spot. You can assume there were only 4 kids with IB/sib pref and they all got a spot (except in the case of being matched elsewhere but sib matched so now they’re on the WL). But you can’t tell from Tableau whether there were 11 IB pref only kids and 1 got shut out or if there were 100 IB pref only kids and 94 got shut out.

In your effort to be contrarian you completely missed the point. The data shows you what preference buckets were filled from. If they admitted any IB then all IB+ SIB were exhausted. Which is the point. You can also see that IB were admitted in EA. Which would have happened exclusive from the non-EA seats.

The point is the same no matter how many times people like you decide to reply. The preferences are hard coded and offers made based on the computer logic. It isn't discretionary. What was alleged to have happened didn't happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Can a kid without sibling preference get into a school over a kid with sibling preference? I thought the answer was no but might be confused.

I believe if a kid with sibling preference ranks the school at which they have sibling preference, but matches at something they ranked higher, they will be waitlisted in the sibling category at the school where they have sibling preference. So a kid without sibling preference could match over them.

Sibling preference can be lost if the sibling leaves the school.

I don’t think that’s correct at all. You are not waitlisted at schools you ranked below your match, period. That’s why the number one rule of the lottery is to rank your choices in your true order of preference.

On the issue of whether a kid without sibling preference can get in over sibling preference - my understanding is that every school sets its own policy for priority groups - sibling, inbound, proximity, children of staff, etc. so the answer to that is depends on which school.

Thanks for the response- that is what I thought. Let’s say it’s two kids who have in-boundary preference, and one of them also has sibling preference. No other preferences for either kid and this is a DCPS school. The kid with sibling and in boundary preference should be admitted before kids with just in boundary preference is my understanding.

There are different buckets based on how a school does preference. In your example those two kids aren't even in the same bucket. This is all crystal clear. It is in no way a mystery. Take Maury as an example. The order of preference is:

1. In-boundary w Sibling Attending
2. In-boundary w Sibling Offered
3. In-boundary
4. Sibling Attending
5. Sibling Offered
6. Proximity

My School DC is run VERY well and their website and supporting info is quite good. Would suggest taking a few minutes to review, PP.

Based on your example a kid with in boundary cannot get in before a kid with in boundary sibling attending. Someone told me they were waitlisted but other kids who only had in boundary were admitted. Hence my question to this “crystal clear” situation. But thanks for the condescension.

"Someone told you" something that didn't happen. My condescension is a reaction to people who prioritize neighborhood scuttlebutt over facts. In a world and city where facts and science and data are being discounted I have no patience for it. What you were told did not happen as long as everyone's addresses were correct, no one matched at a school higher on their WL and no one qualified for equitable access. In the Maury example 3 IB kids were admitted from EA. Maybe you should confront the person "you heard" got in with only IB and demand to know their financial situation?

What happens a lot around lottery time is people who didn't get a match get bitter about what other people got.

The lottery data has been posted. What school was this? You can see for yourself the preferences that were and were not admitted.

Not exactly. The tableau shows you which groups matched but not how many more applicants there were in that group who did not match.

Using the Maury preferences as an example. Let’s say there are 10 preK4 spots for the lottery; all the rest taken up by returning kids. 4 slots go to IB/sib, 6 go to IB. You don’t actually know how many IB kids didn’t get a spot. You can assume there were only 4 kids with IB/sib pref and they all got a spot (except in the case of being matched elsewhere but sib matched so now they’re on the WL). But you can’t tell from Tableau whether there were 11 IB pref only kids and 1 got shut out or if there were 100 IB pref only kids and 94 got shut out.

In your effort to be contrarian you completely missed the point. The data shows you what preference buckets were filled from. If they admitted any IB then all IB+ SIB were exhausted. Which is the point. You can also see that IB were admitted in EA. Which would have happened exclusive from the non-EA seats.

The point is the same no matter how many times people like you decide to reply. The preferences are hard coded and offers made based on the computer logic. It isn't discretionary. What was alleged to have happened didn't happen.

In your effort to be a raging biyatch, you’re missing that you’re replying to different people. I am not arguing with you about the lottery and the waitlist. I agree with you that people just don’t understand how it works. However, the data does not tell you absolutely everything and that was the only point I was making.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious about Munro Verde - JF Cook campus. It looks like this year they offered 62 seats for K and last year only offers 25. Is this the result of an expansion, or we think them wanting to fill spots early and not go to the waitlist? We got in there but are leaning towards staying at our neighborhood school so just trying to see if there’s a sense of what’s going on.

I think it's because they need to host the calle Ocho preschoolers while calle Ocho has construction done.

I specifically asked about this at the big open house fair in January and could not get a straight answer about what was happening with expansion. On the tour, the person leading mine had no idea what the PK class enrollment would look like for 25-26 and seemed a little confused about the larger enrollment in 24-25. I listed MV pretty low for this- among other reasons and matched elsewhere.