Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Why can a judge just make this guy undeportable?


Because after a 2-day hearing a judge issued an order. It's the law. Don't like it, then change the law. But stop violating it.

On October 10, 2019, Plaintiff Abrego Garcia was granted withholding of removal
pursuant to 8 U.S.C. § 1232(b)(3)(A), after the immigration judge agreed that he had established
it was more likely than not that he would be persecuted by gangs in El Salvador because of a
protected ground.


https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.1.0.pdf

It's pretty obvious that judges don't work for American interests, so it's good to see them ignored.

An El Salvadoran got sent to El Salvador and people are freaking out.

They’re not freaking out that he’s in El Salvador; they’re freaking out that due to an error, a man was served up to El Salvadoran gangs on a silver platter, based on the flimsiest of evidence — and he’s likely just the first case we know of, but not the only case where this has happened. And our government hasn’t figured out how to right this wrong. Would you like your son being incarcerated in a maximum security prison without a trial?
Anonymous
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Why would the Trump administration admit they wrongfully deported him if in fact everything was fine and dandy and they sent this man away for valid reasons?

The final order of removal was an error, just like when SSA declares you dead by error. The Trump administration screwed up, and may well cost this man his life, especially now his name has hit the press.
There should be a way to fix this


It's not clear whether it's fixable.

"In response to the error, the government has acknowledged the error but said in a filing that because Abrego-Garcia is no longer in U.S. custody, the court cannot order him to be returned to the U.S. nor can the court order El Salvador to return him."


And they can put Hegseth in jail until he takes back the land Russia took.


Court can order Homan,, Bondi and Noem to return him to the US. And should they decline, he can order them jailed for civil contempt until such time as he is returned to the US. Bet he would be on the next plane.
Anonymous
The press person today claimed there was a ton of evidence that she's seen regarding this man. Let's see it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why can a judge just make this guy undeportable?
It means he filed an asylum claim, and could not be deported until this claim was heard.
Anonymous
If this can happen to him, it can happen to any one of us.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/04/01/trump-el-salvador-maryland-deportation/

This is beyond wrong, it’s unconscionable that they won’t get him back.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If this can happen to him, it can happen to any one of us.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/04/01/trump-el-salvador-maryland-deportation/

This is beyond wrong, it’s unconscionable that they won’t get him back.



“Abrego, the son of a former police officer in El Salvador, has no criminal record in the United States or El Salvador, his lawyers said in court records. To the contrary, they said he fled to the United States when he was 16 because a violent gang was trying to recruit him and extort money from his mother. He crossed the southern border illegally, found work in construction and set off in search of a better life.
Police detained him and others in 2019 while they were looking for work at a Home Depot in Maryland. A confidential informant alleged Abrego belonged to the MS-13 gang, with roots in the U.S. and El Salvador. But at his deportation proceeding, a U.S. immigration judge found that Abrego was the one at risk of gang violence.
The judge found that Abrego and his relatives credibly testified that gang members had been trying to extort money from his mother’s pupusa shop for years, forcing the family to move three times. At first the gang tried to recruit his older brother, who fled to the United States, court records show. Then they came after Abrego, who fled, too.“
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:


Why would the Trump administration admit they wrongfully deported him if in fact everything was fine and dandy and they sent this man away for valid reasons?

The final order of removal was an error, just like when SSA declares you dead by error. The Trump administration screwed up, and may well cost this man his life, especially now his name has hit the press.
There should be a way to fix this


It's not clear whether it's fixable.

"In response to the error, the government has acknowledged the error but said in a filing that because Abrego-Garcia is no longer in U.S. custody, the court cannot order him to be returned to the U.S. nor can the court order El Salvador to return him."




Court can order Homan,, Bondi and Noem to return him to the US. And should they decline, he can order them jailed for civil contempt until such time as he is returned to the US. Bet he would be on the next plane.


Agree. There is no such thing as "can't." That's preposterous. They don't want to.


Yeah, these guys are going to take over Canada, Greenland and Panama, but they can't get one guy back from a Salvadoran prison?
+1000
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:He was due for removal anyways and he is back at his home country. What's the problem? His own govt can handle it.



Was he indeed due for removal? Can you explain or provide a cite (or pt me to the article) . If so, I don’t have a problem. I tried to explain to my husband that most people who came and started working and settled unofficially knew this day was coming . I don’t know about this particular case

My super liberal friends hate it when I say things like that. But it’s true


He did not have a removal order. An immigration judge determined he was a danger to the community. Biden sat on the case and never did his asylum hearing.

The administration did not say he could not be brought back, but that judges cannot bring him back.
The administration should demonstrate they are in charge, by bringing him back, then going through the regular process, then deport him to El Salvador, where Bukele will send him back to the same prison for being a gang member.


He won protection from removal in 2019. I believe Trump was the then president.


TPS for El Salvador has been rescinded since 1/2025 so unless he has a green card he may be deported

But there’s a world of difference between sending him back to El Salvador to live free because the gangs have been incarcerated versus incarcerating him WITH the gang members who present a threat to him.


So el salvador can figure it out? He got a free plane ride.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was due for removal anyways and he is back at his home country. What's the problem? His own govt can handle it.



Was he indeed due for removal? Can you explain or provide a cite (or pt me to the article) . If so, I don’t have a problem. I tried to explain to my husband that most people who came and started working and settled unofficially knew this day was coming . I don’t know about this particular case

My super liberal friends hate it when I say things like that. But it’s true


He did not have a removal order. An immigration judge determined he was a danger to the community. Biden sat on the case and never did his asylum hearing.

The administration did not say he could not be brought back, but that judges cannot bring him back.
The administration should demonstrate they are in charge, by bringing him back, then going through the regular process, then deport him to El Salvador, where Bukele will send him back to the same prison for being a gang member.


He won protection from removal in 2019. I believe Trump was the then president.


TPS for El Salvador has been rescinded since 1/2025 so unless he has a green card he may be deported

But there’s a world of difference between sending him back to El Salvador to live free because the gangs have been incarcerated versus incarcerating him WITH the gang members who present a threat to him.


So el salvador can figure it out? He got a free plane ride.


For you, the cruelty seems to be the point. You know very well that the reason we want to give accused people due process here in the US before sending them to 3rd world countries is that they will not receive due process once they get there. El Salvador is notorious for this.

Essentially, this man is at risk of spending the rest of his (short) life in an inhumane prison known to violate practically every human right, when no country has ever shown he's violent, or belongs to a gang, or has done anything wrong except to cross a border illegally.

So for you the question is this: do you think a non-violent but illegal border crossing merits such a terrible punishment?

It's as if you were sent to a US supermax for getting a speeding ticket, PP. Do you think that's fair?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was due for removal anyways and he is back at his home country. What's the problem? His own govt can handle it.



Was he indeed due for removal? Can you explain or provide a cite (or pt me to the article) . If so, I don’t have a problem. I tried to explain to my husband that most people who came and started working and settled unofficially knew this day was coming . I don’t know about this particular case

My super liberal friends hate it when I say things like that. But it’s true


He did not have a removal order. An immigration judge determined he was a danger to the community. Biden sat on the case and never did his asylum hearing.

The administration did not say he could not be brought back, but that judges cannot bring him back.
The administration should demonstrate they are in charge, by bringing him back, then going through the regular process, then deport him to El Salvador, where Bukele will send him back to the same prison for being a gang member.


He won protection from removal in 2019. I believe Trump was the then president.


TPS for El Salvador has been rescinded since 1/2025 so unless he has a green card he may be deported

But there’s a world of difference between sending him back to El Salvador to live free because the gangs have been incarcerated versus incarcerating him WITH the gang members who present a threat to him.


So el salvador can figure it out? He got a free plane ride.

Tell that to his 5 year old.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was due for removal anyways and he is back at his home country. What's the problem? His own govt can handle it.



Was he indeed due for removal? Can you explain or provide a cite (or pt me to the article) . If so, I don’t have a problem. I tried to explain to my husband that most people who came and started working and settled unofficially knew this day was coming . I don’t know about this particular case

My super liberal friends hate it when I say things like that. But it’s true


He did not have a removal order. An immigration judge determined he was a danger to the community. Biden sat on the case and never did his asylum hearing.

The administration did not say he could not be brought back, but that judges cannot bring him back.
The administration should demonstrate they are in charge, by bringing him back, then going through the regular process, then deport him to El Salvador, where Bukele will send him back to the same prison for being a gang member.


He won protection from removal in 2019. I believe Trump was the then president.


TPS for El Salvador has been rescinded since 1/2025 so unless he has a green card he may be deported

But there’s a world of difference between sending him back to El Salvador to live free because the gangs have been incarcerated versus incarcerating him WITH the gang members who present a threat to him.


So el salvador can figure it out? He got a free plane ride.


For you, the cruelty seems to be the point. You know very well that the reason we want to give accused people due process here in the US before sending them to 3rd world countries is that they will not receive due process once they get there. El Salvador is notorious for this.

Essentially, this man is at risk of spending the rest of his (short) life in an inhumane prison known to violate practically every human right, when no country has ever shown he's violent, or belongs to a gang, or has done anything wrong except to cross a border illegally.

So for you the question is this: do you think a non-violent but illegal border crossing merits such a terrible punishment?

It's as if you were sent to a US supermax for getting a speeding ticket, PP. Do you think that's fair?

It’s not illegal to cross the border without documentation if you’re seeking asylum. He sought asylum and it was eventually granted to him.

Also, we want to extend due process to people from other countries because our citizens travel too and we want our citizens treated fairly by other countries. Due process protects ALL OF US.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was due for removal anyways and he is back at his home country. What's the problem? His own govt can handle it.



Was he indeed due for removal? Can you explain or provide a cite (or pt me to the article) . If so, I don’t have a problem. I tried to explain to my husband that most people who came and started working and settled unofficially knew this day was coming . I don’t know about this particular case

My super liberal friends hate it when I say things like that. But it’s true


He did not have a removal order. An immigration judge determined he was a danger to the community. Biden sat on the case and never did his asylum hearing.

The administration did not say he could not be brought back, but that judges cannot bring him back.
The administration should demonstrate they are in charge, by bringing him back, then going through the regular process, then deport him to El Salvador, where Bukele will send him back to the same prison for being a gang member.


He won protection from removal in 2019. I believe Trump was the then president.


TPS for El Salvador has been rescinded since 1/2025 so unless he has a green card he may be deported

But there’s a world of difference between sending him back to El Salvador to live free because the gangs have been incarcerated versus incarcerating him WITH the gang members who present a threat to him.


So el salvador can figure it out? He got a free plane ride.


NP: you're a gross person. Let me guess - weekly church goer?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was due for removal anyways and he is back at his home country. What's the problem? His own govt can handle it.


Stop lying. Read the article. He was here legally under Temporary Protected Status.

PS. “Anyways” is not a word.


Elon is here...by the way Elon your buddy Joe Rogan is even upset by this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was due for removal anyways and he is back at his home country. What's the problem? His own govt can handle it.



Was he indeed due for removal? Can you explain or provide a cite (or pt me to the article) . If so, I don’t have a problem. I tried to explain to my husband that most people who came and started working and settled unofficially knew this day was coming . I don’t know about this particular case

My super liberal friends hate it when I say things like that. But it’s true


He did not have a removal order. An immigration judge determined he was a danger to the community. Biden sat on the case and never did his asylum hearing.

The administration did not say he could not be brought back, but that judges cannot bring him back.
The administration should demonstrate they are in charge, by bringing him back, then going through the regular process, then deport him to El Salvador, where Bukele will send him back to the same prison for being a gang member.


He won protection from removal in 2019. I believe Trump was the then president.


TPS for El Salvador has been rescinded since 1/2025 so unless he has a green card he may be deported

But there’s a world of difference between sending him back to El Salvador to live free because the gangs have been incarcerated versus incarcerating him WITH the gang members who present a threat to him.


So el salvador can figure it out? He got a free plane ride.


Every day I think we've hot bottom this administration says hole my beer
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was due for removal anyways and he is back at his home country. What's the problem? His own govt can handle it.



Was he indeed due for removal? Can you explain or provide a cite (or pt me to the article) . If so, I don’t have a problem. I tried to explain to my husband that most people who came and started working and settled unofficially knew this day was coming . I don’t know about this particular case

My super liberal friends hate it when I say things like that. But it’s true


He did not have a removal order. An immigration judge determined he was a danger to the community. Biden sat on the case and never did his asylum hearing.

The administration did not say he could not be brought back, but that judges cannot bring him back.
The administration should demonstrate they are in charge, by bringing him back, then going through the regular process, then deport him to El Salvador, where Bukele will send him back to the same prison for being a gang member.


He won protection from removal in 2019. I believe Trump was the then president.


TPS for El Salvador has been rescinded since 1/2025 so unless he has a green card he may be deported

But there’s a world of difference between sending him back to El Salvador to live free because the gangs have been incarcerated versus incarcerating him WITH the gang members who present a threat to him.


So el salvador can figure it out? He got a free plane ride.


Every day I think we've hot bottom this administration says hole my beer
should say hit bottom and hold-auto correct
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