Speaking of MacArthur High School - just FYI

[Anonymous]

It will never be remotely anywhere close to 95% white feeding from Hardy in a city with a citywide lottery system. It might however in time with increased buy-in look somewhat more like the mostly affluent surrounding neighborhood. That is okay. Kids who live far from McArthur might longer term be better served by better options closer to them instead of a very long multi-bus or train/bus commute across town to the far western edge of DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It will never be remotely anywhere close to 95% white feeding from Hardy in a city with a citywide lottery system. It might however in time with increased buy-in look somewhat more like the mostly affluent surrounding neighborhood. That is okay. Kids who live far from McArthur might longer term be better served by better options closer to them instead of a very long multi-bus or train/bus commute across town to the far western edge of DC.

Exactly!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It will never be remotely anywhere close to 95% white feeding from Hardy in a city with a citywide lottery system. It might however in time with increased buy-in look somewhat more like the mostly affluent surrounding neighborhood. That is okay. Kids who live far from McArthur might longer term be better served by better options closer to them instead of a very long multi-bus or train/bus commute across town to the far western edge of DC.

What are our options when you are in-bounds for MacArthur but are 3 metrobuses (lord knows how long) or a 35 minute drive from a parent who then can’t go back to work because they have to shuttle the kid around? Walls is it. There are no options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will never be remotely anywhere close to 95% white feeding from Hardy in a city with a citywide lottery system. It might however in time with increased buy-in look somewhat more like the mostly affluent surrounding neighborhood. That is okay. Kids who live far from McArthur might longer term be better served by better options closer to them instead of a very long multi-bus or train/bus commute across town to the far western edge of DC.

What are our options when you are in-bounds for MacArthur but are 3 metrobuses (lord knows how long) or a 35 minute drive from a parent who then can’t go back to work because they have to shuttle the kid around? Walls is it. There are no options.

Walls is a lottery ticket nowadays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It will never be remotely anywhere close to 95% white feeding from Hardy in a city with a citywide lottery system. It might however in time with increased buy-in look somewhat more like the mostly affluent surrounding neighborhood. That is okay. Kids who live far from McArthur might longer term be better served by better options closer to them instead of a very long multi-bus or train/bus commute across town to the far western edge of DC.

Also ward 3 isn't 95% white either... The catchment area is about 60% white for the under 18 population. Stoddert is 60% white. Hardy is 40% white. Deal is 46% white. JR is 36% white.
MacArthur is currently 22% white. Hard to see it going much higher than JR's numbers in the long run.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will never be remotely anywhere close to 95% white feeding from Hardy in a city with a citywide lottery system. It might however in time with increased buy-in look somewhat more like the mostly affluent surrounding neighborhood. That is okay. Kids who live far from McArthur might longer term be better served by better options closer to them instead of a very long multi-bus or train/bus commute across town to the far western edge of DC.

What are our options when you are in-bounds for MacArthur but are 3 metrobuses (lord knows how long) or a 35 minute drive from a parent who then can’t go back to work because they have to shuttle the kid around? Walls is it. There are no options.

Curious as to which neighborhood? glover park, wesley heights, burlieth, georgetown, and the palisades now have one seat trips to the HS. (routes D94, C85). Foxhall can walk.

So that leaves Spring Valley and Cleveland Park. A good chunk of Cleveland Park can walk to wisconsin and grab the C85. Same with some spring valley to Macarthur. For the ones that can't, the D96 and C81 connect to a bus that directly goes to Macarthur.

So where is this mythical '3 stop' inboundary place?

(Plus nothing stops you from the 3 min drive to the D94 or C85 if you live in other parts of Cleveland Park or Spring Valley)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will never be remotely anywhere close to 95% white feeding from Hardy in a city with a citywide lottery system. It might however in time with increased buy-in look somewhat more like the mostly affluent surrounding neighborhood. That is okay. Kids who live far from McArthur might longer term be better served by better options closer to them instead of a very long multi-bus or train/bus commute across town to the far western edge of DC.

What are our options when you are in-bounds for MacArthur but are 3 metrobuses (lord knows how long) or a 35 minute drive from a parent who then can’t go back to work because they have to shuttle the kid around? Walls is it. There are no options.

Curious as to which neighborhood? glover park, wesley heights, burlieth, georgetown, and the palisades now have one seat trips to the HS. (routes D94, C85). Foxhall can walk.

So that leaves Spring Valley and Cleveland Park. A good chunk of Cleveland Park can walk to wisconsin and grab the C85. Same with some spring valley to Macarthur. For the ones that can't, the D96 and C81 connect to a bus that directly goes to Macarthur.

So where is this mythical '3 stop' inboundary place?

(Plus nothing stops you from the 3 min drive to the D94 or C85 if you live in other parts of Cleveland Park or Spring Valley)

The northern chunk of Spring Valley (Ward 3, inbounds for MacArthur) doesn't take 3 buses, but it takes a transfer (D96 to D94) and 61 minutes of commuting time, based on using a random Wednesday morning in September on the WMATA trip planner. Let's stop pretending that the public transportation options to MacArthur are ideal.

[Anonymous]

From our house in Spring Valley, commutes to Walls and MacArthur are close to an hour in both cases.

The commute to Walls is now longer than before the bus changes.

[Anonymous]

To be fair, there aren't that many "by right" high schools. Very few people are walking distance or close bus / metro distance from their "by right" high school. Also, most high school students don't attend their by right school.

[Anonymous]

Yikes an hour on public transit to get to IB high school is ridiculously awful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yikes an hour on public transit to get to IB high school is ridiculously awful.

It is... but that's also based on using public transit. The downside of Upper Caucasia is that the public transit becomes sketchier and sketchier the more suburban it gets. Living in Spring Valley bears little resemblance to living in a traditional urban environment. When people who live on the Hill complain about their public transport-based commute, I can take that seriously. But moving to Spring Valley and complaining about your public transport-based commute is a bit like moving to Georgetown and being surprised there's no metro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yikes an hour on public transit to get to IB high school is ridiculously awful.

It is... but that's also based on using public transit. The downside of Upper Caucasia is that the public transit becomes sketchier and sketchier the more suburban it gets. Living in Spring Valley bears little resemblance to living in a traditional urban environment. When people who live on the Hill complain about their public transport-based commute, I can take that seriously. But moving to Spring Valley and complaining about your public transport-based commute is a bit like moving to Georgetown and being surprised there's no metro.

I don't think anyone is complaining. I think it's just pointing out to a wrong-headed PP that, yes, there are places IB for MacArthur that have less-than-ideal public transportation options to the school.

Also, "Upper Caucasia" hasn't been edgy in 20 years, especially coming from someone who I will bet is an over-privileged white person. I'm going to guess you're not very clever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will never be remotely anywhere close to 95% white feeding from Hardy in a city with a citywide lottery system. It might however in time with increased buy-in look somewhat more like the mostly affluent surrounding neighborhood. That is okay. Kids who live far from McArthur might longer term be better served by better options closer to them instead of a very long multi-bus or train/bus commute across town to the far western edge of DC.

Also ward 3 isn't 95% white either... The catchment area is about 60% white for the under 18 population. Stoddert is 60% white. Hardy is 40% white. Deal is 46% white. JR is 36% white.
MacArthur is currently 22% white. Hard to see it going much higher than JR's numbers in the long run.

Wait what?

The ethnic mix of all of these Ward 3 schools doesn't in any way mean that is the ethnic mix of Ward 3 as all of those schools somehow still have a significant number of OOB kids - Ward 3 is about 70% white per the census and the next largest group is mixed race.

[Anonymous]

Isn't the name of the school changing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the name of the school changing?

MacArthur name is temporary and it will be renamed.

But I don’t think they’ve released that info yet, have they?