If Paul Weiss won’t stand up, who will?

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. Meant to mention that I am also a former Big Law partner (at another firm that has been targeted). I am baffled by how this passed the full partnership. As someone said up thread, this negotiating was crap. Gave away way more than needed. I would not want this firm handling a major matter for me.


I can only assume the rest of the partnership had no idea.

Do we think this managing partner, who
Bundles money for DS, panicked and thoughjr this was the only way to save his job?

Honestly, at this point, behind-the-scenes blackmail is starting to make sense as an explanation for how SO many have capitulated without a fight. Paul Weiss, Columbia, Schumer, Disney, the hosts of Morning Joe, all of the who's whos of Silicon Valley from Alphabet to Apple to Meta to OpenAI, and so many more. This isn't the first time institutions and public figures have been targeted by an administration with autocratic aspirations (Dubya comes to mind). I can't recall having seen this type of rolling over and showing of the belly by the powerful since McCarthyism, however.

There is no blackmail conspiracy! Just accept that there are many people out there who are craven, and/or ignorant. It’s really that simple.


Or maybe they're all just realizing what side their bread is buttered on? This isn't the first time that big business and academia have catered to the person in the White House, and it won't be the last.
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Anonymous wrote:PP here. Meant to mention that I am also a former Big Law partner (at another firm that has been targeted). I am baffled by how this passed the full partnership. As someone said up thread, this negotiating was crap. Gave away way more than needed. I would not want this firm handling a major matter for me.


I can only assume the rest of the partnership had no idea.

Do we think this managing partner, who
Bundles money for DS, panicked and thoughjr this was the only way to save his job?

Honestly, at this point, behind-the-scenes blackmail is starting to make sense as an explanation for how SO many have capitulated without a fight. Paul Weiss, Columbia, Schumer, Disney, the hosts of Morning Joe, all of the who's whos of Silicon Valley from Alphabet to Apple to Meta to OpenAI, and so many more. This isn't the first time institutions and public figures have been targeted by an administration with autocratic aspirations (Dubya comes to mind). I can't recall having seen this type of rolling over and showing of the belly by the powerful since McCarthyism, however.


But that’s just it. It’s McCarthyism combined with early 1930a history. History these people have forgotten. Appeasement doesn’t work. It just leads to being complicit.

All those people who reflexively say “never again” on Holocaust Remembrance Day should wake the f&ck up. This is how you get to “again” - by trying to appease would-be dictators. Maybe the current dictator wannabe isn’t interested in murdering 12 million people or conquering territory, but that’s just our good fortune. Because the stage is being set for that to be accomplished if he or his successor wanted to go that route.

Paul Weiss, Columbia, Congress, and everyone else who is capitulating or hoping to profit or turn the moment to their advantage are cowards who have forgotten history they should know.

But a lot of us haven’t forgotten. And we will fight authoritarianism.


How?

How will you fight it?

How should we fight it?

I’m a lawyer and my colleagues and I are fighting it, but it seems small and scattershot. Needless to say, it’s not really working (hard to curb illegal behavior when the administration ignores court orders and calls to impeach judges).

So, what’s the plan for the opposition party and individuals?


I don’t have a comprehensive plan. But I do know bowing the knee isn’t it. Normalizing isn’t it. Rolling over and giving and and ignoring because it seems too big isn’t it. Individuals are protesting and using economic power, attorneys are suing on their behalf (and winning), some firms like Perkins fight back. Speaking out and refusing to concede are crucial. That’s what we do to start and see where momentum goes. But there is none if everyone just submits at the first sign of challenge.


Right.

That’s what we are doing…but it’s not really moving the needle.

Where’s the leadership?

Where’s the organized opposition?

The demonstrations are too small.

The lawsuits are whack a mole solutions to single issues…and are meaningless when the administration refuses to comply.

Why hasn’t anyone figured a way to kick musk out?

Why isn’t congress concerned enough to take action? Heck, why are certain Dems sniping at each other instead of rallying the party to March in lockstep against the dismantling of our government?

And why the hell did a law firm bend over backwards to pay Trump $40M???

^^^
Now he knows he can bully anyone and win. Why not continue down that path?

Again: my day job is basically advocating against the dangerous things this administration is doing. And I don’t own a Tesla. And I don’t shop at target. Etc. What else can be done? Litigation will continue. Daily emails to the Hill will continue. But it’s not enough.


PP, I hear you. There is no magic fix. Our “opposition “party, ah hem, the Democrats, completely lack any sort of spine.

We should be calling them every, single day and demanding they use the tools they have to stop this. Be specific. For example, ask your Democratic senators to deny unanimous consent at every opportunity. Not just once but every time. Had one senator pulled a Tommy Tuberville Linda McBride would not yet be secretary of education.

Call your House rep and demand they call for impeachment. Yes I know Republicans won’t let this happen. But is getting the conversation out there and putting pressure on the reps to start thinking of this as an option. Think of it as a messaging call.

When your reps do something good call and praise them. That could be a 30 second call and it really, really . We need to be very specific in our asks for members. Each call should have one issue call.
“ I’m calling X and asking them to do X. Will they do X? I would like a response. “

Keep talking to friends, family, neighbors -anyone that you think disagrees with the corrupt and illegal actions of this regime. Get them to call their representatives.

Attend protests. It’s really important that we the people are out on the streets showing that we are not “antifa“ but rather many of us are middle aged professionals who are outraged.

Two protest to definitely attend. March 29 - worldwide Tesla takedown rallies. Just Google Tesla Takedown and you’ll find locations where they’re at. You do not have to sign up you can just show up. April 5 there’s also going to be a massive day of action. Again you can Google “ April 5 “hands off“

Now imagine you have 10 friends doing everything I just mentioned and they tell 10 friends and they tell 10 friends. There is no Calvary coming to save us. We are on our own. But we can do this. We’ve done hard things in the past and we can do this.

Good luck and be well.
Anonymous
[You might be right but if so how awful is it that so many people are black mailable? I can’t think of a single secret someone could blackmail me about. People should be more boring!]

I think that many/most people who have powerful jobs have something they don't want others to know about. However, we don't know if this is going farther than that - threatening them or their family members with actual harm. Like other posters are saying, too many powerful people are rolling over. Paul Weiss is going even father and actually giving $40 million in services! This is not normal.

And where is the organized resistance? Maybe those efforts are being thwarted, too. It's time for a figurehead to rise - an MLK, a Cesar Chavez, a Frederick Douglass. We see the need, there is a great desire to be on the right side of history this time, to show that we are not the Germany of the 1930s. But we're still unorganized, desperate for someone to step forward and loudly tell us what to do, where to go, how to gather our might.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP here. Meant to mention that I am also a former Big Law partner (at another firm that has been targeted). I am baffled by how this passed the full partnership. As someone said up thread, this negotiating was crap. Gave away way more than needed. I would not want this firm handling a major matter for me.


I can only assume the rest of the partnership had no idea.

Do we think this managing partner, who
Bundles money for DS, panicked and thoughjr this was the only way to save his job?

Honestly, at this point, behind-the-scenes blackmail is starting to make sense as an explanation for how SO many have capitulated without a fight. Paul Weiss, Columbia, Schumer, Disney, the hosts of Morning Joe, all of the who's whos of Silicon Valley from Alphabet to Apple to Meta to OpenAI, and so many more. This isn't the first time institutions and public figures have been targeted by an administration with autocratic aspirations (Dubya comes to mind). I can't recall having seen this type of rolling over and showing of the belly by the powerful since McCarthyism, however.


But that’s just it. It’s McCarthyism combined with early 1930a history. History these people have forgotten. Appeasement doesn’t work. It just leads to being complicit.

All those people who reflexively say “never again” on Holocaust Remembrance Day should wake the f&ck up. This is how you get to “again” - by trying to appease would-be dictators. Maybe the current dictator wannabe isn’t interested in murdering 12 million people or conquering territory, but that’s just our good fortune. Because the stage is being set for that to be accomplished if he or his successor wanted to go that route.

Paul Weiss, Columbia, Congress, and everyone else who is capitulating or hoping to profit or turn the moment to their advantage are cowards who have forgotten history they should know.

But a lot of us haven’t forgotten. And we will fight authoritarianism.


How?

How will you fight it?

How should we fight it?

I’m a lawyer and my colleagues and I are fighting it, but it seems small and scattershot. Needless to say, it’s not really working (hard to curb illegal behavior when the administration ignores court orders and calls to impeach judges).

So, what’s the plan for the opposition party and individuals?


I don’t have a comprehensive plan. But I do know bowing the knee isn’t it. Normalizing isn’t it. Rolling over and giving and and ignoring because it seems too big isn’t it. Individuals are protesting and using economic power, attorneys are suing on their behalf (and winning), some firms like Perkins fight back. Speaking out and refusing to concede are crucial. That’s what we do to start and see where momentum goes. But there is none if everyone just submits at the first sign of challenge.


Right.

That’s what we are doing…but it’s not really moving the needle.

Where’s the leadership?

Where’s the organized opposition?

The demonstrations are too small.

The lawsuits are whack a mole solutions to single issues…and are meaningless when the administration refuses to comply.

Why hasn’t anyone figured a way to kick musk out?

Why isn’t congress concerned enough to take action? Heck, why are certain Dems sniping at each other instead of rallying the party to March in lockstep against the dismantling of our government?

And why the hell did a law firm bend over backwards to pay Trump $40M???

^^^
Now he knows he can bully anyone and win. Why not continue down that path?

Again: my day job is basically advocating against the dangerous things this administration is doing. And I don’t own a Tesla. And I don’t shop at target. Etc. What else can be done? Litigation will continue. Daily emails to the Hill will continue. But it’s not enough.



It's not enough but it's a start. Now the important thing is to keep it going, like when you're building a snowman and you roll it around the yard and keep picking up more snow and solidifying it.

I hear you, it is frustrating. I'm frustrated. I'm a lawyer too and the open attack on the Constitution and the courts, and Congress's complete abnegation of its duties - and worse, its complicity -- drives me insane. But I never expected much from politicians. Most modern politicians are cowards. This isn't 1864, where people had true beliefs and would speak out and vote and die for them. Not this Congress, anyway.

But the important thing is the long haul. You can't go crazy and burn yourself out in the beginning. These are the opening battles in what promises to be a long, long war. The more the administration does, the more they reveal their true character to those who up til now didn't believe they'd really be "so bad." The more power grabs they engage in, the more they denigrate judges, the more they abuse the law, the more they lose the public and the higher the likelihood the Supreme Court will rule against them.

Trump and co. spent 4 years planning all of this. It's unrealistic to think it will be squashed in a couple of months, particularly with his grip on Congress. I choose to be encouraged that resistance is swelling and that it is organic. It will keep rising and growing and organizing, as the depredations get worse and the lawsuits continue. But it will die an early death if people give up.

Don't give up. Do what you can and continue to encourage others to do the same. I know I couldn't sleep at night if I hadn't, no matter the outcome. When my young children are grown, I want to be able to tell them I joined the fight and won. And if we don't win, at least I want to be able to tell them that I fought. Not that I turned aside for the sake of my bank account.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP here. Meant to mention that I am also a former Big Law partner (at another firm that has been targeted). I am baffled by how this passed the full partnership. As someone said up thread, this negotiating was crap. Gave away way more than needed. I would not want this firm handling a major matter for me.


I can only assume the rest of the partnership had no idea.

Do we think this managing partner, who
Bundles money for DS, panicked and thoughjr this was the only way to save his job?

Honestly, at this point, behind-the-scenes blackmail is starting to make sense as an explanation for how SO many have capitulated without a fight. Paul Weiss, Columbia, Schumer, Disney, the hosts of Morning Joe, all of the who's whos of Silicon Valley from Alphabet to Apple to Meta to OpenAI, and so many more. This isn't the first time institutions and public figures have been targeted by an administration with autocratic aspirations (Dubya comes to mind). I can't recall having seen this type of rolling over and showing of the belly by the powerful since McCarthyism, however.


But that’s just it. It’s McCarthyism combined with early 1930a history. History these people have forgotten. Appeasement doesn’t work. It just leads to being complicit.

All those people who reflexively say “never again” on Holocaust Remembrance Day should wake the f&ck up. This is how you get to “again” - by trying to appease would-be dictators. Maybe the current dictator wannabe isn’t interested in murdering 12 million people or conquering territory, but that’s just our good fortune. Because the stage is being set for that to be accomplished if he or his successor wanted to go that route.

Paul Weiss, Columbia, Congress, and everyone else who is capitulating or hoping to profit or turn the moment to their advantage are cowards who have forgotten history they should know.

But a lot of us haven’t forgotten. And we will fight authoritarianism.


How?

How will you fight it?

How should we fight it?

I’m a lawyer and my colleagues and I are fighting it, but it seems small and scattershot. Needless to say, it’s not really working (hard to curb illegal behavior when the administration ignores court orders and calls to impeach judges).

So, what’s the plan for the opposition party and individuals?


I don’t have a comprehensive plan. But I do know bowing the knee isn’t it. Normalizing isn’t it. Rolling over and giving and and ignoring because it seems too big isn’t it. Individuals are protesting and using economic power, attorneys are suing on their behalf (and winning), some firms like Perkins fight back. Speaking out and refusing to concede are crucial. That’s what we do to start and see where momentum goes. But there is none if everyone just submits at the first sign of challenge.


Right.

That’s what we are doing…but it’s not really moving the needle.

Where’s the leadership?

Where’s the organized opposition?

The demonstrations are too small.

The lawsuits are whack a mole solutions to single issues…and are meaningless when the administration refuses to comply.

Why hasn’t anyone figured a way to kick musk out?

Why isn’t congress concerned enough to take action? Heck, why are certain Dems sniping at each other instead of rallying the party to March in lockstep against the dismantling of our government?

And why the hell did a law firm bend over backwards to pay Trump $40M???

^^^
Now he knows he can bully anyone and win. Why not continue down that path?

Again: my day job is basically advocating against the dangerous things this administration is doing. And I don’t own a Tesla. And I don’t shop at target. Etc. What else can be done? Litigation will continue. Daily emails to the Hill will continue. But it’s not enough.


PP, I hear you. There is no magic fix. Our “opposition “party, ah hem, the Democrats, completely lack any sort of spine.

We should be calling them every, single day and demanding they use the tools they have to stop this. Be specific. For example, ask your Democratic senators to deny unanimous consent at every opportunity. Not just once but every time. Had one senator pulled a Tommy Tuberville Linda McBride would not yet be secretary of education.

Call your House rep and demand they call for impeachment. Yes I know Republicans won’t let this happen. But is getting the conversation out there and putting pressure on the reps to start thinking of this as an option. Think of it as a messaging call.

When your reps do something good call and praise them. That could be a 30 second call and it really, really . We need to be very specific in our asks for members. Each call should have one issue call.
“ I’m calling X and asking them to do X. Will they do X? I would like a response. “

Keep talking to friends, family, neighbors -anyone that you think disagrees with the corrupt and illegal actions of this regime. Get them to call their representatives.

Attend protests. It’s really important that we the people are out on the streets showing that we are not “antifa“ but rather many of us are middle aged professionals who are outraged.

Two protest to definitely attend. March 29 - worldwide Tesla takedown rallies. Just Google Tesla Takedown and you’ll find locations where they’re at. You do not have to sign up you can just show up. April 5 there’s also going to be a massive day of action. Again you can Google “ April 5 “hands off“

Now imagine you have 10 friends doing everything I just mentioned and they tell 10 friends and they tell 10 friends. There is no Calvary coming to save us. We are on our own. But we can do this. We’ve done hard things in the past and we can do this.

Good luck and be well.


Right.

We are doing this.

But it’s not really yielding results fro leaders on the Hill, and it certainly doesn’t matter to the administration.

You know what did?

Remember the memo that basically stopped all federal funding…and then it was rescinded within a day or two?

It was rescinded because elected officials from Red states/cities/counties pushed back quickly and bigly.

^^^
We need more of that. Their voices matter more than those from solidly blue states.

Why hasn’t the DNC tapped its ginormous piggybank to mount a campaign against this administration…now? It would serve the dual purpose of messaging for midterms as well as launching a mutiny now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It will be women. It usually is. Men fall for this tough guy routine but women are repulsed by it. We see through it. We also have more at stake.


Yeah, until someone spots a spider, then you all run & hide.
Anonymous
The truth is we are done. The people who didn’t vote would have voted for Trump anyway. We are in denial. We spent too little time and effort on solid public education in every state and too much time on getting rich and leaving the poor behind. Now we are mad they were too dumb to vote for democracy. Lip service got us here. A hypocritical society falls.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP here. Meant to mention that I am also a former Big Law partner (at another firm that has been targeted). I am baffled by how this passed the full partnership. As someone said up thread, this negotiating was crap. Gave away way more than needed. I would not want this firm handling a major matter for me.


I can only assume the rest of the partnership had no idea.

Do we think this managing partner, who
Bundles money for DS, panicked and thoughjr this was the only way to save his job?

Honestly, at this point, behind-the-scenes blackmail is starting to make sense as an explanation for how SO many have capitulated without a fight. Paul Weiss, Columbia, Schumer, Disney, the hosts of Morning Joe, all of the who's whos of Silicon Valley from Alphabet to Apple to Meta to OpenAI, and so many more. This isn't the first time institutions and public figures have been targeted by an administration with autocratic aspirations (Dubya comes to mind). I can't recall having seen this type of rolling over and showing of the belly by the powerful since McCarthyism, however.

There is no blackmail conspiracy! Just accept that there are many people out there who are craven, and/or ignorant. It’s really that simple.


Noticing that everyone who walks out of a room with trump looks scared , does an 360 on their behavior and values, debases themselves, and immediately does exactly what he wants isn’t a “conspiracy”. Trump has threatened people his whole life to get his way. Extortion IS the simple answer.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be women. It usually is. Men fall for this tough guy routine but women are repulsed by it. We see through it. We also have more at stake.


I think you mean Black women, because white women continue to back the white patriarchy whenever it really counts. And honestly, as one of those Black women, I am sick and tired of trying to save y'all from yourselves. At this point, bring on the segregation, because I do not trust white people. You all voted for this because you couldn't swallow righting the wrongs of the past and not being given the advantages you've become to believe you're entitled to. 400 years of slavery, 100 years of Jim Crow, and maybe 20 years of affirmative action y'all want to chuck the constitution.


You’re talking to me, a 54 year old suburban white woman who has never voted for a republican. I marched Selma, Alabama for one of the Bloody Sunday anniversaries. I support SPLC. .None of my white female friends are republicans either. We voted for Kamala. We’re all boycotting companies that dumped DEI, and we’re calling our representatives. Your stereotypes and anger toward us as a group is unreasonable and not helpful.



You sound like people who say #notallmen

If she’s not talking about you because you’re not like the people she’s talking about, she’s not talking about you.

— White woman


No. She was quote replying to me and lumping me in with “y’all”. I don’t judge her by the color of her skin and I am asking just the same of her. And, oh, I don’t dare wear a pin or a bracelet to let her know I hate Trump and the GOP, or else I’d be mocked for that too. But she’ll assume the worst of me until she “gets to know me.” Imagine a white woman saying that about a black woman. It’s appalling.


It's appalling that she uses statistical logic? Over half of white women voted for Trump. So much fragility on your part. Do you know how many assumptions people make about black women every day?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It will be women. It usually is. Men fall for this tough guy routine but women are repulsed by it. We see through it. We also have more at stake.


I think you mean Black women, because white women continue to back the white patriarchy whenever it really counts. And honestly, as one of those Black women, I am sick and tired of trying to save y'all from yourselves. At this point, bring on the segregation, because I do not trust white people. You all voted for this because you couldn't swallow righting the wrongs of the past and not being given the advantages you've become to believe you're entitled to. 400 years of slavery, 100 years of Jim Crow, and maybe 20 years of affirmative action y'all want to chuck the constitution.


You’re talking to me, a 54 year old suburban white woman who has never voted for a republican. I marched Selma, Alabama for one of the Bloody Sunday anniversaries. I support SPLC. .None of my white female friends are republicans either. We voted for Kamala. We’re all boycotting companies that dumped DEI, and we’re calling our representatives. Your stereotypes and anger toward us as a group is unreasonable and not helpful.



You sound like people who say #notallmen

If she’s not talking about you because you’re not like the people she’s talking about, she’s not talking about you.

— White woman


No. She was quote replying to me and lumping me in with “y’all”. I don’t judge her by the color of her skin and I am asking just the same of her. And, oh, I don’t dare wear a pin or a bracelet to let her know I hate Trump and the GOP, or else I’d be mocked for that too. But she’ll assume the worst of me until she “gets to know me.” Imagine a white woman saying that about a black woman. It’s appalling.


It's appalling that she uses statistical logic? Over half of white women voted for Trump. So much fragility on your part. Do you know how many assumptions people make about black women every day?


90 million people didn’t vote at all. You can’t even assume someone voted.
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Anonymous wrote:Can all the "not all white women", "not me, I'm an ally", "you are being just as bad" women just stop for a second? Why is your first response to snap back when a black woman has expressed her exasperation with a population that rarely has her back? Majorities of white women voted for Trump in every single election. They weren't all in flyover states, they weren't all uneducated and there are definitely liberal white women who would rather center themselves in a discussion like this rather than listen.

I would be pissed and furious if I was a black woman and I'm pissed on their behalf. They have consistently voted to uphold democracy in the narrowest of victories whether Alabama Senate races, or the 2020 election. They have the highest turnout numbers. As for black people in general, that 14% is doing a lot more
for democracy than our majority, that's for sure.

You need to give people room to vent. If this was a betrayed Ukrainian or Canadian right now, you'd be "I'm mad too" But the clap back at a black woman is your very first instinct. On November 7, most black women on Twitter were expressing some form of this sentiment. They are so damn tired and after our nation narrowly scraping though in 2020 thanks to their work in Georgia and their amazing canvassing, we gave it all away in 2024 if were are to believe the polling (I for one don't trust it given the anomalies).

Yes, we all need to fight together, but getting black women back to the table isn't going to happen if you lecture them. They have carried far more of the load for too long. Acknowledge their work, show some humility, stop advertising what you've done and just listen. Then let's get to work.


“Why is your first response to snap back when a black woman has expressed her exasperation with a population that rarely has her back?”

For the millionth time: people that share the same skin color are not a monolith and should not be spoken of as such. “White women” is just a concept. Individuals are more than their race.


That's a lovely sentiment, but why do white womens' voting patterns repeatedly support a racist rapist over the course of three presidential elections? Why do black women consistently vote for the more pro-democracy candidate even when they reap less rewards within a democratic society? Could there be a values gap amongst us?
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Anonymous wrote:Can all the "not all white women", "not me, I'm an ally", "you are being just as bad" women just stop for a second? Why is your first response to snap back when a black woman has expressed her exasperation with a population that rarely has her back? Majorities of white women voted for Trump in every single election. They weren't all in flyover states, they weren't all uneducated and there are definitely liberal white women who would rather center themselves in a discussion like this rather than listen.

I would be pissed and furious if I was a black woman and I'm pissed on their behalf. They have consistently voted to uphold democracy in the narrowest of victories whether Alabama Senate races, or the 2020 election. They have the highest turnout numbers. As for black people in general, that 14% is doing a lot more
for democracy than our majority, that's for sure.

You need to give people room to vent. If this was a betrayed Ukrainian or Canadian right now, you'd be "I'm mad too" But the clap back at a black woman is your very first instinct. On November 7, most black women on Twitter were expressing some form of this sentiment. They are so damn tired and after our nation narrowly scraping though in 2020 thanks to their work in Georgia and their amazing canvassing, we gave it all away in 2024 if were are to believe the polling (I for one don't trust it given the anomalies).

Yes, we all need to fight together, but getting black women back to the table isn't going to happen if you lecture them. They have carried far more of the load for too long. Acknowledge their work, show some humility, stop advertising what you've done and just listen. Then let's get to work.


“Why is your first response to snap back when a black woman has expressed her exasperation with a population that rarely has her back?”

For the millionth time: people that share the same skin color are not a monolith and should not be spoken of as such. “White women” is just a concept. Individuals are more than their race.


That's a lovely sentiment, but why do white womens' voting patterns repeatedly support a racist rapist over the course of three presidential elections? Why do black women consistently vote for the more pro-democracy candidate even when they reap less rewards within a democratic society? Could there be a values gap amongst us?


DP

I think a lot of people are misinterpreting or exaggerating voting data.

The reality is the vast majority of black people don’t bother to vote. Those who do show up skew liberal (at least the women).

ICYMI: the for-profit media crafted a narrative using race and shockingly cherry-picked data they misinterpreted.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be women. It usually is. Men fall for this tough guy routine but women are repulsed by it. We see through it. We also have more at stake.


I think you mean Black women, because white women continue to back the white patriarchy whenever it really counts. And honestly, as one of those Black women, I am sick and tired of trying to save y'all from yourselves. At this point, bring on the segregation, because I do not trust white people. You all voted for this because you couldn't swallow righting the wrongs of the past and not being given the advantages you've become to believe you're entitled to. 400 years of slavery, 100 years of Jim Crow, and maybe 20 years of affirmative action y'all want to chuck the constitution.


You’re talking to me, a 54 year old suburban white woman who has never voted for a republican. I marched Selma, Alabama for one of the Bloody Sunday anniversaries. I support SPLC. .None of my white female friends are republicans either. We voted for Kamala. We’re all boycotting companies that dumped DEI, and we’re calling our representatives. Your stereotypes and anger toward us as a group is unreasonable and not helpful.



You sound like people who say #notallmen

If she’s not talking about you because you’re not like the people she’s talking about, she’s not talking about you.

— White woman


No. She was quote replying to me and lumping me in with “y’all”. I don’t judge her by the color of her skin and I am asking just the same of her. And, oh, I don’t dare wear a pin or a bracelet to let her know I hate Trump and the GOP, or else I’d be mocked for that too. But she’ll assume the worst of me until she “gets to know me.” Imagine a white woman saying that about a black woman. It’s appalling.


It's appalling that she uses statistical logic? Over half of white women voted for Trump. So much fragility on your part. Do you know how many assumptions people make about black women every day?


90 million people didn’t vote at all. You can’t even assume someone voted.


Well isn't that a betrayal too? With the stakes this high, not voting shows you don't care about the marginalized.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be women. It usually is. Men fall for this tough guy routine but women are repulsed by it. We see through it. We also have more at stake.


I think you mean Black women, because white women continue to back the white patriarchy whenever it really counts. And honestly, as one of those Black women, I am sick and tired of trying to save y'all from yourselves. At this point, bring on the segregation, because I do not trust white people. You all voted for this because you couldn't swallow righting the wrongs of the past and not being given the advantages you've become to believe you're entitled to. 400 years of slavery, 100 years of Jim Crow, and maybe 20 years of affirmative action y'all want to chuck the constitution.


You’re talking to me, a 54 year old suburban white woman who has never voted for a republican. I marched Selma, Alabama for one of the Bloody Sunday anniversaries. I support SPLC. .None of my white female friends are republicans either. We voted for Kamala. We’re all boycotting companies that dumped DEI, and we’re calling our representatives. Your stereotypes and anger toward us as a group is unreasonable and not helpful.



You sound like people who say #notallmen

If she’s not talking about you because you’re not like the people she’s talking about, she’s not talking about you.

— White woman


No. She was quote replying to me and lumping me in with “y’all”. I don’t judge her by the color of her skin and I am asking just the same of her. And, oh, I don’t dare wear a pin or a bracelet to let her know I hate Trump and the GOP, or else I’d be mocked for that too. But she’ll assume the worst of me until she “gets to know me.” Imagine a white woman saying that about a black woman. It’s appalling.


It's appalling that she uses statistical logic? Over half of white women voted for Trump. So much fragility on your part. Do you know how many assumptions people make about black women every day?


90 million people didn’t vote at all. You can’t even assume someone voted.


Well isn't that a betrayal too? With the stakes this high, not voting shows you don't care about the marginalized.


How is all this sniping remotely helpful? All this vote/ no vote or black/white women complaining sounds like my elementary schoolers. Way to miss the bigger issue here folks. You don’t need 100 percent or even 50 percent ideological alignment to work to stop the rape of our Constitution and laws. Do that first and then there will be time to quibble about voting patterns and degrees of oppression.
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Anonymous wrote:Paul Weiss is a business. They deal with reality, not with wishful political thinking. Obviously they are expecting Republicans to be in charge for the next few cycles.


Lawyers have greater responsibilities than simply making money. The decision is a disgrace to the firm, and this DC lawyer has lost respect for the firm.


If I were till in a position of hiring big firms (I was deputy general counsel to a bank), I would think twice about PW's ability to zealously represent my interests before the federal government. They have proven they won't stand up for themselves, why would I believe they would stand up for me?


True but the only prosecution will be political. So maybe PW has shown it has enough connections to mitigate Trump’s attacks? Though PW was founded on different philosophy. It seems that philosophy will not work in the current environment or current courts.


No, they are just compromised now. I'd never hire them.




Please if you do not hire them Trump will go after you and your company. There is no law.


i agree no one is going to kick them off a case and cause a scene for fear of retaliation. But they won't get the next case.


They will. There is no moral high ground firm. Those days are over. It’s pay to play with no legal system.


There are two problems with your point. (1) it assumes PW has the personal connections with the Trumpsters at DOJ in charge of the legal matter. That is what gets your hired. This settlement does not do that. (2) it assumes that this new DOJ is actually going to regulate and bring cases against major corporations.

For most corporations, not all, the majority of their legal budget is not for government investigations/litigation.

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