Neighbors just adopted an 80lb adult pitbull

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You have no evidence that this dog is dangerous. All you can do is tell your children to completely ignore the dog and not run around when the dog is walking by. If you do this, the dog will not do anything to you or your kids.

No. This is nonsense. Kids should be allowed to use their own yard without having to moderate their behavior because the neighbor's poorly-trained dog is out. The neighbor is 100% responsible for keeping their dog under control and in their own yard at all times unless specifically invited, regardless of what the kids next door may be doing.

Putting responsibility for the neighbors crappy dog on the kids next door is effing ridiculous. If you own a dog, you own full responsibility for the dog. Don't ever make someone else tell you your business. Damn.

From the OP:

I was outside and our kids were playing in the front yard with the neighbors' kids. The teenage girl brought the dog into our yard because the kids wanted to see the new dog. I let the dog approach me as well,

I don't disagree that the OP is right to be cautious around the dog. But your suggestion that owners did something wrong by bringing the dog into OP's yard when the kids wanted to see it, and OP was there herself, is off-base.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have no evidence that this dog is dangerous. All you can do is tell your children to completely ignore the dog and not run around when the dog is walking by. If you do this, the dog will not do anything to you or your kids.

No. This is nonsense. Kids should be allowed to use their own yard without having to moderate their behavior because the neighbor's poorly-trained dog is out. The neighbor is 100% responsible for keeping their dog under control and in their own yard at all times unless specifically invited, regardless of what the kids next door may be doing.

Putting responsibility for the neighbors crappy dog on the kids next door is effing ridiculous. If you own a dog, you own full responsibility for the dog. Don't ever make someone else tell you your business. Damn.

From the OP:

I was outside and our kids were playing in the front yard with the neighbors' kids. The teenage girl brought the dog into our yard because the kids wanted to see the new dog. I let the dog approach me as well,

I don't disagree that the OP is right to be cautious around the dog. But your suggestion that owners did something wrong by bringing the dog into OP's yard when the kids wanted to see it, and OP was there herself, is off-base.

That's not at all what my comment says. It's in thread with this: "All you can do is tell your children to completely ignore the dog and not run around when the dog is walking by. If you do this, the dog will not do anything to you or your kids" which is, as I said, some nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would recommend concealed carry whenever the dog is outside. Those neighbors are awful. You need to be able to quickly protect your children from a large, untrained, nervous Pit Bull.

+1. But it doesn’t matter if it’s perfectly trained or not, their brains turn to mush as they age (think CTE or Alzheimer’s) and even the “sweetest” pit bulls can and do randomly snap and go on a rampage. Whether it’s a random kid, the owner, elderly family member, or someone else’s pet is the prey instinct triggering victim is anyone’s guess.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would recommend concealed carry whenever the dog is outside. Those neighbors are awful. You need to be able to quickly protect your children from a large, untrained, nervous Pit Bull.

+1. But it doesn’t matter if it’s perfectly trained or not, their brains turn to mush as they age (think CTE or Alzheimer’s) and even the “sweetest” pit bulls can and do randomly snap and go on a rampage. Whether it’s a random kid, the owner, elderly family member, or someone else’s pet is the prey instinct triggering victim is anyone’s guess.

Oh, good lord... What a hideously ignorant, nonsensical thing to say.

Cite anything credible to back this claim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. No trolling here. When I was in my 20s, I trained and showed bullmastiffs, which inherited their traits from English mastiffs and English bulldogs. I studied canine behavior and became familiar with the traits and behaviors of many AKC recognized breeds, particularly working dogs. The bulldog and terrier traits I wrote about (e.g., persistency, clamping, and tearing) were purpose-bred into these dogs years ago, are well known and documented, and were genetically inherited by many pitbulls today. For people who claim this is anti-pitbull propaganda, you really need to become more familiar with the history of working dogs.

No you didn't, or you'd know what to say to a kid to keep them safe around dogs in general, let alone the "80lb pit bull" you made up for this story.

Weak troll attempt, and the more you post, the trollier it gets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get why you'd need to talk to the owner at all, just don't invite the dog onto your property anymore. Tell your kids they are not to approach or play with the dog. There is a pit pull that lives two houses down from me. I have never been close enough for that dog to growl at me. A new neighbor just moved in directly across the street, and they have a pit. I will not be inviting that dog to my yard to meet my kids or any of that. Keep your dog off my property and we are good!

Get a fence. Dogs growl for all kinds or reasons. Ours has different growls to let us know what she wants.

This is absolutely unhinged. If your dog has gone all the way to growling to communicate, it's because you missed the first eleven signals it gave your dumb ass.

I'm not the person you quoted but that poster is correct. There are many reasons dogs growl. My poodle growls when we play tug of war with him. He used to attention growl; (he would sit next to me and stare and growl). I trained him to stop growling at me, so now he just sits and gives me the death stare. lol A dog will also growl if he is in pain or resource guarding.

Clowny, I've been training dogs for decades. While a growl is a last-resort communication, it's never the first signal, and only necessary when the human responsible for the animal doesn't know what they're doing. Well-trained dogs don't growl at people, largely because their well-educate handlers never put them in situations where the dog feels compelled to growl. Pain and resource guarding also have primary and secondary signals, long before it gets to growling.

A growling animal is either in truly dire circumstances or poorly trained/handled. Period.

I'll believe my own vet and my own dog trainer over some bozo on the internet. But thanks anyway.

Take my post to your vet, and have them show you the precursors to the growl that you're missing then, gobshite. A growl is not a primary communication. There's a lot you're missing, which makes sense, since your head seems to be entirely embraced by your asscheeks.

Just like a bark, a dog's growl can sound different. When my dog is growling during play, it is a sharper quick type of growl. His body is at ease and his tail is wagging. When I walked by my neighbor's yard, and her reactive dog saw my dog, it was low and rumbly, and his entire body was stiff, and I saw his teeth. There are differences. A growl does not always mean a dog is going to attack/bite.

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^^ Also, I never claimed it to be a primary form of communication, that would be barking. But it is a form of communication.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would recommend concealed carry whenever the dog is outside. Those neighbors are awful. You need to be able to quickly protect your children from a large, untrained, nervous Pit Bull.

+1. But it doesn’t matter if it’s perfectly trained or not, their brains turn to mush as they age (think CTE or Alzheimer’s) and even the “sweetest” pit bulls can and do randomly snap and go on a rampage. Whether it’s a random kid, the owner, elderly family member, or someone else’s pet the prey instinct triggering victim is anyone’s guess.

Oh, good lord... What a hideously ignorant, nonsensical thing to say.

Cite anything credible to back this claim.

I’m not citing anything. You morons adopt these land sharks and delude yourself that you can control them or predict their behavior. I’ve never seen a beagle or golden randomly snap and murder animals and kids. That’s what pit bulls do all the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would recommend concealed carry whenever the dog is outside. Those neighbors are awful. You need to be able to quickly protect your children from a large, untrained, nervous Pit Bull.

+1. But it doesn’t matter if it’s perfectly trained or not, their brains turn to mush as they age (think CTE or Alzheimer’s) and even the “sweetest” pit bulls can and do randomly snap and go on a rampage. Whether it’s a random kid, the owner, elderly family member, or someone else’s pet is the prey instinct triggering victim is anyone’s guess.

Oh, good lord... What a hideously ignorant, nonsensical thing to say.

Cite anything credible to back this claim.

You’ve never heard a pit bull owner whose dog just killed something “he was the sweetest boy, we don’t know what happened”? What happened is their brain decays—just like elderly humans—and they snap, regressing to the savage murderous beast they were mated to be. And when they have killer teeth and jaws, they kill when they snap. If a frenchie snaps it can’t hurt a fly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would recommend concealed carry whenever the dog is outside. Those neighbors are awful. You need to be able to quickly protect your children from a large, untrained, nervous Pit Bull.

+1. But it doesn’t matter if it’s perfectly trained or not, their brains turn to mush as they age (think CTE or Alzheimer’s) and even the “sweetest” pit bulls can and do randomly snap and go on a rampage. Whether it’s a random kid, the owner, elderly family member, or someone else’s pet is the prey instinct triggering victim is anyone’s guess.

Oh, good lord... What a hideously ignorant, nonsensical thing to say.

Cite anything credible to back this claim.

You’ve never heard a pit bull owner whose dog just killed something “he was the sweetest boy, we don’t know what happened”? What happened is their brain decays—just like elderly humans—and they snap, regressing to the savage murderous beast they were mated to be. And when they have killer teeth and jaws, they kill when they snap. If a frenchie snaps it can’t hurt a fly.

I've heard a lot of ignorant owners claim their ill-bred, poorly-trained dogs were "the sweetest" before they bit. That doesn't mean "their brains turn to mush", it means they are poorly-trained animals with ignorant owners, unaware of animal behavior and the eleventy-five clues that probably preceded the bite incident.

No domesticated dog breeds were bred to be "savage murderous beasts". They weren't. All dogs are domesticated to be sociable to humans. That doesn't mean they're all well-socialized individuals.

A lot of you have no business owning any breed of dog, because you have no idea how to properly handle or train one. Ignorant comments like this prove that point, no other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would recommend concealed carry whenever the dog is outside. Those neighbors are awful. You need to be able to quickly protect your children from a large, untrained, nervous Pit Bull.

+1. But it doesn’t matter if it’s perfectly trained or not, their brains turn to mush as they age (think CTE or Alzheimer’s) and even the “sweetest” pit bulls can and do randomly snap and go on a rampage. Whether it’s a random kid, the owner, elderly family member, or someone else’s pet is the prey instinct triggering victim is anyone’s guess.

Oh, good lord... What a hideously ignorant, nonsensical thing to say.

Cite anything credible to back this claim.

You’ve never heard a pit bull owner whose dog just killed something “he was the sweetest boy, we don’t know what happened”? What happened is their brain decays—just like elderly humans—and they snap, regressing to the savage murderous beast they were mated to be. And when they have killer teeth and jaws, they kill when they snap. If a frenchie snaps it can’t hurt a fly.

Oh? https://people.com/crime/woman-killed-by-french-bulldog/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you have an HOA?

Suggest going thru HOA to express your concerns. If not, yes, immediately put your concerns in writing - especially detail the dog growling-then deliver letter to the family in person. I’d begin the conversation with, “this is a very awkward thing to mention and I do y want it to harm our neighborly relationship, but I have some serious concerns about your new dog. I’ve had to put it in writing.”

My then preschool son was knocked over and attacked by a neighbors’ off leash dog that had wandered into our front yard. I was pregnant, and inside the door putting on my shoes and getting ready to walk to the school bus stop when I heard my son scream - it happened that fast! The dog was running away but I so wish I could have either been witness to the attack and intervened and or killed the dog. Horrific experience and this was a small spaniel, older family dog. My son had 15 stitches on his face and lip. Absolutely brutal.

Long story, but now that I think of it, get a few other neighbors on your side. This dog must never be allowed off leash, must be walked in a short leash (and possibly muzzled) and must always be supervised (never allowed to be at large either not even accidentally) and never allowed to be behind an “electric fence.”

If you brought this over to me it would harm our 'relationship' This dog is a living being and allowed to show discomfort ( growl) If the dog had bitten than sure you would have a fair argument. Obviously your experience pp was a horrible one but, op's situation is not the same

It’s cute that you think a pit bull would just daintily bite a person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would recommend concealed carry whenever the dog is outside. Those neighbors are awful. You need to be able to quickly protect your children from a large, untrained, nervous Pit Bull.

+1. But it doesn’t matter if it’s perfectly trained or not, their brains turn to mush as they age (think CTE or Alzheimer’s) and even the “sweetest” pit bulls can and do randomly snap and go on a rampage. Whether it’s a random kid, the owner, elderly family member, or someone else’s pet the prey instinct triggering victim is anyone’s guess.

Oh, good lord... What a hideously ignorant, nonsensical thing to say.

Cite anything credible to back this claim.

I’m not citing anything. You morons adopt these land sharks and delude yourself that you can control them or predict their behavior. I’ve never seen a beagle or golden randomly snap and murder animals and kids. That’s what pit bulls do all the time.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132912/Horror-family-dog-kills-dismembers-month-old-baby-father-slept.html

And beagles are some of the mouthiest little jerks I've ever known! https://lovingbeagle.com/why-do-beagles-bite-so-much/

Using inflammatory rhetoric and calling them names like "land sharks" just illustrates that you have no stand-alone point to make. You anti-pit bullies never do. It's always regurgitated nonsense you got from some clickbait. You are the Fox News of the canine world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would recommend concealed carry whenever the dog is outside. Those neighbors are awful. You need to be able to quickly protect your children from a large, untrained, nervous Pit Bull.

+1. But it doesn’t matter if it’s perfectly trained or not, their brains turn to mush as they age (think CTE or Alzheimer’s) and even the “sweetest” pit bulls can and do randomly snap and go on a rampage. Whether it’s a random kid, the owner, elderly family member, or someone else’s pet the prey instinct triggering victim is anyone’s guess.

Oh, good lord... What a hideously ignorant, nonsensical thing to say.

Cite anything credible to back this claim.

I’m not citing anything. You morons adopt these land sharks and delude yourself that you can control them or predict their behavior. I’ve never seen a beagle or golden randomly snap and murder animals and kids. That’s what pit bulls do all the time.

You're not citing anything because there's nothing to cite. It's a totally bogus claim.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can also build a fence.

A 6 ft fence in the front yard?

Most dogs won’t jump more than a 3’ fence. I had a dog growing up that could jump a 6’ fence but he was 50lbs and a breed known for that behavior. Pit bulls aren’t known for jumping well. A 3.5’ or 4’ fence is plenty.