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Anonymous wrote:When that happens, IMO, it means they leaned heavily on the National Merit Hispanic Recognition Program designation in apps.
Which seems .. lazy?
Yes but it works
Works how? Plenty of kids claim to be Hispanic who are three generations away from speaking anything but English. It’s not making Dartmouth more diverse on anything but paper.
Wouldn't that be illegal? They aren't supposed to use race.
The Supreme Court has never ruled that consideration of race is "illegal" or otherwise impermissible.
In fact, the SFFA majority opinion noted that race-based admissions programs are okay "within the confines of narrow restrictions."
They found that the Harvard and UNC programs did not fall within those confines. That's it.
pretty sure they said that racial preferences are illegal.
Yeah, you clearly didn't read the majority opinion.
Just read section 6 of the opinion.
Racial preferences are illegal.
You can talk about how you overcame racism or how you assumed a leadership role in your ethnic community but the school cannot express a preference for a his[panic kid that assumed a leadership role in their community over an asian kid that did the same thing in their community. They cannot prefer one race over another.
What you and the Supreme Court described as permissible is still a racial preference.
No, it's not.
If you
**can't** replace the word hispanic with the word asian or white with exactly the same effect then it is not a racial preference.
If the story about how a hispanic kid assumed a leadership role in in their community is given more value than a similar story about how a white kid assumed a leadership role in their community, then it's a racial preference.
If a hispanic student's story about how they overcame racism is given more weight than a similar story by an asian about how they overcame racism, then it's racial preference.
How are you going to even prove this? They will judge the applicants on the strength of their essays.
Everything is digital now. Far easier to do now than it ever was….
DP. Not everything is written. And not everything is written digitally, specifically due to the possibility of electronic discovery. Times are changing indeed.
Everything is written digitally: they are called college essays.
College essays have been written for hundreds of years.
You can "police" those as some wannabe lawyers on DCUM suggest. Furthermore, the mentioning of race ( for anyone and everyone, not just URMs) is allowed within certain parameters.
Affirmative action is banned. It was never going to be a watershed moment for Asian American students. There are only so many qualified for the top schools outside of the California publics.
Let's move on.
You
can't police the essays...
Do you have any reason to believe that applicants of black and hispanic kids would have significantly stronger essays that asian and white kids?
If not then we can apply statistical models and ferret out racism.
The point is that any applicant of any race/ethnicity can write an essay within the newly established SCOTUS framework. If the essay help a kid get accepted, URM or otherwise, great. Contrary to what some people hope, the essay won't be a smoking gun or anything. In addition, some of the top colleges have a specific supplemental essay on diversity.
Huh? Race mentioned in essay. This is not rocket science, folks. Keyword search terms — no problem finding these.
When URM status is mentioned in essay or otherwise disclosed (Hispanic Recognition Scholar), admit rate = whatever it is. Statistically significant, sure. To a p level of .01? Maybe. If so, essays, in the aggregate, are indeed a smoking gun…
Duh.
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