US News best colleges 2025

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Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
4. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech, Duke, JHU, Northwestern
10. UPenn
11. Cornell, UChicago
13. Brown, Columbia
15. Dartmouth, UCLA
17. Berkeley
18. Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt
21. CMU, UMich, WashU
24. Emory, Georgetown, UVA
27. UNC, USC
29. UCSD
30. NYU UF UT Austin
33. Georgia Tech, UC Davis, UC Irvine, UIUC
37. BC, Tufts
39. UCSB, UW Madison

Not a terrible ranking, though UCLA seems high.

#1 Public 8 or 9 years in a row, more applications than any other school (public or private), and top rankings in a blizzard of key areas of evaluation.

#15 seems reasonable.

I guess in my head I'm always subconsciously ranking by student quality.

Which means Berkeley should be the highest public by a mile. And Hopkins is not top 10, and falls below Berkeley. And MIT is first. And Cornell goes back to being the bottom ivy, around 15-16 overall.

what? the average berkeley student is weak compared to hopkins and cornell

The average Hopkins student would get eaten alive at Berkeley.

maybe by homeless. hopkins academics are no joke. but then again, that’s why so many from california choose to leave berkeley to out of state including hopkins

What are you talking about? Berkeley is next to THE tech hotspot. What hopkins kid is eager to stay in Baltimore?

give it a rest. there are more hopkins alum per capita in fang than berkeley.

Berkeley also has how many times the amount of academic programs and offerings as hopkins...?

how many of your students graduate in 4 years? what’s your average class size?
average salary?

all higher at hopkins. nice job trying to do higher perception by association however. no one bats their eye when hopkins is top 10 but berkeley this high is off

I didn't even go to Berkeley, but this is such a ridiculous point. One of these schools represents a diverse swathe of people economically, racially, and has a mission of educating the students of an entire state. Of course the average Hopkins student graduates well in 4 years-they have many less students who are from low income backgrounds and weaker academic backgrounds accordingly so. That does not mean the students at Berkeley are worse, but they couldn't receive the same elite education as the people at Hopkins until university. Berkeley has always been the best public university and is one of the most known American institutions internationally, along with an incredible faculty line up and some of the best research in the world. Cool it with the blatant classism.

"The percentage of students from low-income backgrounds, measured by eligibility for federal Pell grants, rose to 23.8%"
https://hub.jhu.edu/2024/09/19/johns-hopkins-demographic-makeup-scotus-ruling/#:~:text=The%20percentage%20of%20students%20from%20low%2Dincome%20backgrounds%2C%20measured%20by,low%2Dincome%20is%2030.2%25.

Berkeley at 27%

https://financialaid.berkeley.edu/types-of-aid-at-berkeley/grants/federal-pell-grant/#:~:text=%E2%80%8B27%25%20of%20Undergrads%20Receive,education%20is%20within%20your%20reach.

Cut the weed

https://opa.berkeley.edu/uc-berkeley-fall-enrollment-data-new-undergraduates

Berkeley undergrad demographics:

50.1% Asian
3.8% black
28.4% white

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Who did the University in Illinois pay off? Even kids in Illinois want to go elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
4. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech, Duke, JHU, Northwestern
10. UPenn
11. Cornell, UChicago
13. Brown, Columbia
15. Dartmouth, UCLA
17. Berkeley
18. Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt
21. CMU, UMich, WashU
24. Emory, Georgetown, UVA
27. UNC, USC
29. UCSD
30. NYU UF UT Austin
33. Georgia Tech, UC Davis, UC Irvine, UIUC
37. BC, Tufts
39. UCSB, UW Madison

Not a terrible ranking, though UCLA seems high.

#1 Public 8 or 9 years in a row, more applications than any other school (public or private), and top rankings in a blizzard of key areas of evaluation.

#15 seems reasonable.

I guess in my head I'm always subconsciously ranking by student quality.

Which means Berkeley should be the highest public by a mile. And Hopkins is not top 10, and falls below Berkeley. And MIT is first. And Cornell goes back to being the bottom ivy, around 15-16 overall.

what? the average berkeley student is weak compared to hopkins and cornell

The average Hopkins student would get eaten alive at Berkeley.

maybe by homeless. hopkins academics are no joke. but then again, that’s why so many from california choose to leave berkeley to out of state including hopkins

What are you talking about? Berkeley is next to THE tech hotspot. What hopkins kid is eager to stay in Baltimore?

give it a rest. there are more hopkins alum per capita in fang than berkeley.

Berkeley also has how many times the amount of academic programs and offerings as hopkins...?

how many of your students graduate in 4 years? what’s your average class size?
average salary?

all higher at hopkins. nice job trying to do higher perception by association however. no one bats their eye when hopkins is top 10 but berkeley this high is off

Is hopkins now educating 30,000 undergrads.

The only who would start comparing berkeley and hopkins or other top privates are berkeley people to no surprise. golden showers for golden bears as they say at Stanford.

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Anonymous wrote:Laughing at the rankings of the privates that DCUM parents whose kids go to private high schools drool over. Northeastern in the 50s, Tulane in the 70s ha ha. And Kenyon ranked 45th among liberal arts colleges. They’re all second tier at best, yet these parents insist they’re the next Harvard!

Same.

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UC Merced at 58. It should be a top 25 school. Something is off about US News' rankings.

A 90% admit rate is bringing a great college to ordinary students. The college system needs more of that.

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I'm generally confused. If SMU is ranked in the 90's and UC Merced is practically a top 50 school, why is SMU's admission rate so much lower?

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Precovid, 40% of Berkeley's undergrads had below a 1290 on the SAT or 29 on the ACT.

This just proves that SAT's are meaningless.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm generally confused. If SMU is ranked in the 90's and UC Merced is practically a top 50 school, why is SMU's admission rate so much lower?

You are confused. Admission Rate has nothing to do with the rankings.

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Denison at 35, Kenyon at 45, Oberlin at 55 - back 10-20 years ago the rankings between the three schools were flipped. I got into Denison and rejected from Oberlin back in the day (from nearby as to why I applied to both).

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Sad Face: Out of the T10...
Happy Face: T5 for his major!!

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Anonymous wrote:Precovid, 40% of Berkeley's undergrads had below a 1290 on the SAT or 29 on the ACT.

This just proves that SAT's are meaningless.

how come? if they are meaningless, why are schools reimplementing them and saying they correlate with college performance?

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Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
4. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech, Duke, JHU, Northwestern
10. UPenn
11. Cornell, UChicago
13. Brown, Columbia
15. Dartmouth, UCLA
17. Berkeley
18. Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt
21. CMU, UMich, WashU
24. Emory, Georgetown, UVA
27. UNC, USC
29. UCSD
30. NYU UF UT Austin
33. Georgia Tech, UC Davis, UC Irvine, UIUC
37. BC, Tufts
39. UCSB, UW Madison

Not a terrible ranking, though UCLA seems high.

#1 Public 8 or 9 years in a row, more applications than any other school (public or private), and top rankings in a blizzard of key areas of evaluation.

#15 seems reasonable.

I guess in my head I'm always subconsciously ranking by student quality.

Which means Berkeley should be the highest public by a mile. And Hopkins is not top 10, and falls below Berkeley. And MIT is first. And Cornell goes back to being the bottom ivy, around 15-16 overall.

what? the average berkeley student is weak compared to hopkins and cornell

The average Hopkins student would get eaten alive at Berkeley.

maybe by homeless. hopkins academics are no joke. but then again, that’s why so many from california choose to leave berkeley to out of state including hopkins

What are you talking about? Berkeley is next to THE tech hotspot. What hopkins kid is eager to stay in Baltimore?

give it a rest. there are more hopkins alum per capita in fang than berkeley.

Berkeley also has how many times the amount of academic programs and offerings as hopkins...?

how many of your students graduate in 4 years? what’s your average class size?
average salary?

all higher at hopkins. nice job trying to do higher perception by association however. no one bats their eye when hopkins is top 10 but berkeley this high is off

I didn't even go to Berkeley, but this is such a ridiculous point. One of these schools represents a diverse swathe of people economically, racially, and has a mission of educating the students of an entire state. Of course the average Hopkins student graduates well in 4 years-they have many less students who are from low income backgrounds and weaker academic backgrounds accordingly so. That does not mean the students at Berkeley are worse, but they couldn't receive the same elite education as the people at Hopkins until university. Berkeley has always been the best public university and is one of the most known American institutions internationally, along with an incredible faculty line up and some of the best research in the world. Cool it with the blatant classism.

"The percentage of students from low-income backgrounds, measured by eligibility for federal Pell grants, rose to 23.8%"
https://hub.jhu.edu/2024/09/19/johns-hopkins-demographic-makeup-scotus-ruling/#:~:text=The%20percentage%20of%20students%20from%20low%2Dincome%20backgrounds%2C%20measured%20by,low%2Dincome%20is%2030.2%25.

Berkeley at 27%

https://financialaid.berkeley.edu/types-of-aid-at-berkeley/grants/federal-pell-grant/#:~:text=%E2%80%8B27%25%20of%20Undergrads%20Receive,education%20is%20within%20your%20reach.

Cut the weed

23% of 6000 students is radically smaller than 27% of 30000 students...

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Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
4. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech, Duke, JHU, Northwestern
10. UPenn
11. Cornell, UChicago
13. Brown, Columbia
15. Dartmouth, UCLA
17. Berkeley
18. Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt
21. CMU, UMich, WashU
24. Emory, Georgetown, UVA
27. UNC, USC
29. UCSD
30. NYU UF UT Austin
33. Georgia Tech, UC Davis, UC Irvine, UIUC
37. BC, Tufts
39. UCSB, UW Madison

Not a terrible ranking, though UCLA seems high.

#1 Public 8 or 9 years in a row, more applications than any other school (public or private), and top rankings in a blizzard of key areas of evaluation.

#15 seems reasonable.

I guess in my head I'm always subconsciously ranking by student quality.

Which means Berkeley should be the highest public by a mile. And Hopkins is not top 10, and falls below Berkeley. And MIT is first. And Cornell goes back to being the bottom ivy, around 15-16 overall.

what? the average berkeley student is weak compared to hopkins and cornell

The average Hopkins student would get eaten alive at Berkeley.

maybe by homeless. hopkins academics are no joke. but then again, that’s why so many from california choose to leave berkeley to out of state including hopkins

What are you talking about? Berkeley is next to THE tech hotspot. What hopkins kid is eager to stay in Baltimore?

give it a rest. there are more hopkins alum per capita in fang than berkeley.

Berkeley also has how many times the amount of academic programs and offerings as hopkins...?

how many of your students graduate in 4 years? what’s your average class size?
average salary?

all higher at hopkins. nice job trying to do higher perception by association however. no one bats their eye when hopkins is top 10 but berkeley this high is off

I didn't even go to Berkeley, but this is such a ridiculous point. One of these schools represents a diverse swathe of people economically, racially, and has a mission of educating the students of an entire state. Of course the average Hopkins student graduates well in 4 years-they have many less students who are from low income backgrounds and weaker academic backgrounds accordingly so. That does not mean the students at Berkeley are worse, but they couldn't receive the same elite education as the people at Hopkins until university. Berkeley has always been the best public university and is one of the most known American institutions internationally, along with an incredible faculty line up and some of the best research in the world. Cool it with the blatant classism.

"The percentage of students from low-income backgrounds, measured by eligibility for federal Pell grants, rose to 23.8%"
https://hub.jhu.edu/2024/09/19/johns-hopkins-demographic-makeup-scotus-ruling/#:~:text=The%20percentage%20of%20students%20from%20low%2Dincome%20backgrounds%2C%20measured%20by,low%2Dincome%20is%2030.2%25.

Berkeley at 27%

https://financialaid.berkeley.edu/types-of-aid-at-berkeley/grants/federal-pell-grant/#:~:text=%E2%80%8B27%25%20of%20Undergrads%20Receive,education%20is%20within%20your%20reach.

Cut the weed

23% of 6000 students is radically smaller than 27% of 30000 students...

There are more Pell Grant students at Berkeley than students at Johns Hopkins. That's a harrowing thought for JHU.

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So, Cornell is no longer the lowest ivy lol?

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Anonymous wrote:Someone explain to me how UC Merced could be ranked so high??

It is better than UConn, a flagship that has been around for 150 years longer, has a medical and law school, has a higher GPA and higher SAT scores (well UC Merced bans SAT's, but before the ban).

UConn is ranked 70!

Because the rankings don’t mean anything. It was created to sell magazines. And they don’t even have a magazine anymore - so website subscription? LOL

USNWR is pandering to that lucrative San Joaquin Valley demographic now?

😂