How HYP students and alum feel about the other Ivies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Went to Harvard. Anyone who gets into any of these schools these days is impressive to me.- way harder now

+1 from a Yale grad. Have seen jokes in the alum FB group that we'd prob never get in these days. The bio's I see of the new admits are something else.

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Anonymous wrote:Different double Yale couple here. We went to grad school at another Ivy. We would jokingly say the following but there’s truth in it:

-Princeton: we are superior to them but secretly worry that they are smarter, richer and probably had more fun than we did

-Harvard: weird try-hards who don’t have any fun and think they’re so great

-Dartmouth: a little jealous they’re still having more fun than us but relieved that we didn’t have to be in the snow the whole time

-Columbia: always forget about them. Their colors are the best.

-Cornell: there’s too many of them to stereotype but they all carry a sort of sad and desperate vibe

-Penn: used to be the back door to the Ivy League and we used to comfort ourselves that Philly was worse than New Haven. Now Penn and Philly both seem pretty appealing. Wide variety of people there and a cool place.

-Brown: spoiled rich kids who are oblivious to the world around them and their relative privilege, and I’m talking about both the alumni I know and current students

-MIT- book smarter and more Asian than us (and DH and I are very smart and very Asian) but otherwise kind of weird and forgettable

-Stanford- want everyone to believe they are the very smartest, but we remember when Stanford was as easy to get into as Cornell or Penn, and we also know way too much about their admissions standards for athletes

Wow. You are effed up with some outdated stereotypes.

It’s 2024, honey.

Yeah with acceptance rates of 3-5% and admin changed and shifts over the years these schools are very different today.

Btw, Yale is now known as the “weird” Ivy with emo students that don’t make eye contact.

says who?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I went to an "HYP" (no one who graduates from these schools seriously uses this term IRL) and work at arguably the top firm in a very prestige-minded industry in New York City. The schools that I would consider "peers", give or take, are the rest of the Ivy League, Stanford, Chicago, Duke, Northwestern, and maybe Berkeley. This is based off of decades in my field and working with and collaborating with a large cross-section of individuals with varying educational pedigrees.

But to be absolutely clear, there are smart people everywhere. And after a certain point, sheer competence and experience matter infinitely more than pedigree.

Every graduate of "HYP" knows you don't use two prepositions side by side. An adequate word to use instead of those two, would have been "on" as in "based on".

So you're a charlatan.

NP but another HYP grad, and I would totally write "off of" in an informal post. HYP didn't teach me grammar. I learned grammar - or didn't - in my crappy public high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Different double Yale couple here. We went to grad school at another Ivy. We would jokingly say the following but there’s truth in it:

-Princeton: we are superior to them but secretly worry that they are smarter, richer and probably had more fun than we did

-Harvard: weird try-hards who don’t have any fun and think they’re so great

-Dartmouth: a little jealous they’re still having more fun than us but relieved that we didn’t have to be in the snow the whole time

-Columbia: always forget about them. Their colors are the best.

-Cornell: there’s too many of them to stereotype but they all carry a sort of sad and desperate vibe

-Penn: used to be the back door to the Ivy League and we used to comfort ourselves that Philly was worse than New Haven. Now Penn and Philly both seem pretty appealing. Wide variety of people there and a cool place.

-Brown: spoiled rich kids who are oblivious to the world around them and their relative privilege, and I’m talking about both the alumni I know and current students

-MIT- book smarter and more Asian than us (and DH and I are very smart and very Asian) but otherwise kind of weird and forgettable

-Stanford- want everyone to believe they are the very smartest, but we remember when Stanford was as easy to get into as Cornell or Penn, and we also know way too much about their admissions standards for athletes

This is so cringe, and it doesn’t even align with stereotypes that have some basis in reality.

It does suggest there are some weird-ass Asian Yale graduates out there, though.

Sorry you’re jealous! Get into Yale and then you can offer your own perception from your point of view.

Already did HYP, but you're still a twit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At Wharton we didn’t consider ourselves to have any outside college peers.

No real Ivy offers an undergraduate business major. At Harvard, Yale and Columbia the business schools are exclusively devoted to graduate level education.

Wharton is also the #1 MBA program. Those other ones are not peers there either.

This doesn't contradict my point.

No idea what your point was. Wharton doesn’t care about the Ivy League. They are not our peers.

[Anonymous]

While Penn Wharton is more impressive than Cornell hotel management it is still inferior to the pedigree of Harvard College, Yale College or Columbia College.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At Wharton we didn’t consider ourselves to have any outside college peers.

No real Ivy offers an undergraduate business major. At Harvard, Yale and Columbia the business schools are exclusively devoted to graduate level education.

Wharton is also the #1 MBA program. Those other ones are not peers there either.

This doesn't contradict my point.

No idea what your point was. Wharton doesn’t care about the Ivy League. They are not our peers.

Wharton is rather prestigious, but the prestige is diminished by the fact that its graduates think higher of themselves than the rest of the world does. Classic self-inflicted wound.

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Anonymous wrote:At Wharton we didn’t consider ourselves to have any outside college peers.

No real Ivy offers an undergraduate business major. At Harvard, Yale and Columbia the business schools are exclusively devoted to graduate level education.

Wharton is also the #1 MBA program. Those other ones are not peers there either.

This doesn't contradict my point.

No idea what your point was. Wharton doesn’t care about the Ivy League. They are not our peers.

Wharton is rather prestigious, but the prestige is diminished by the fact that its graduates think higher of themselves than the rest of the world does. Classic self-inflicted wound.

Those who matter already understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While Penn Wharton is more impressive than Cornell hotel management it is still inferior to the pedigree of Harvard College, Yale College or Columbia College.

Let results speak for themself. Your idea about pedigree is for dogs.

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Anonymous wrote:While Penn Wharton is more impressive than Cornell hotel management it is still inferior to the pedigree of Harvard College, Yale College or Columbia College.

Let results speak for themself. Your idea about pedigree is for dogs.

Results do speak for themselves, why did my DS’s best friend turn down Wharton for Duke if Wharton is in a class above every other school in the country?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:While Penn Wharton is more impressive than Cornell hotel management it is still inferior to the pedigree of Harvard College, Yale College or Columbia College.

Let results speak for themself. Your idea about pedigree is for dogs.

Results do speak for themselves, why did my DS’s best friend turn down Wharton for Duke if Wharton is in a class above every other school in the country?

Not everyone is cut out for real leadership.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I went to an "HYP" (no one who graduates from these schools seriously uses this term IRL) and work at arguably the top firm in a very prestige-minded industry in New York City. The schools that I would consider "peers", give or take, are the rest of the Ivy League, Stanford, Chicago, Duke, Northwestern, and maybe Berkeley. This is based off of decades in my field and working with and collaborating with a large cross-section of individuals with varying educational pedigrees.

But to be absolutely clear, there are smart people everywhere. And after a certain point, sheer competence and experience matter infinitely more than pedigree.

Every graduate of "HYP" knows you don't use two prepositions side by side. An adequate word to use instead of those two, would have been "on" as in "based on".

So you're a charlatan.

NP but another HYP grad, and I would totally write "off of" in an informal post. HYP didn't teach me grammar. I learned grammar - or didn't - in my crappy public high school.

Then you're a poorly educated sample case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While Penn Wharton is more impressive than Cornell hotel management it is still inferior to the pedigree of Harvard College, Yale College or Columbia College.

Let’s be serious…Columbia is no longer in the conversation these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems to me that the graduates of HYP don't really see the other Ivy people as their peers.

I think they make some exception for Columbia, maybe Brown but never Cornell, Dartmouth or Penn.

Am I right?

That's too bad. They can be just as educated and knowledgeable as anyone else. I would not sell myself short just because I 've been a bit sheltered and surrounded by a bunch of questionable lecacy admits.

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Anonymous wrote:At Wharton we didn’t consider ourselves to have any outside college peers.

No real Ivy offers an undergraduate business major. At Harvard, Yale and Columbia the business schools are exclusively devoted to graduate level education.

Wharton is also the #1 MBA program. Those other ones are not peers there either.

This doesn't contradict my point.

No idea what your point was. Wharton doesn’t care about the Ivy League. They are not our peers.

Wharton is rather prestigious, but the prestige is diminished by the fact that its graduates think higher of themselves than the rest of the world does. Classic self-inflicted wound.

Those who matter already understand.

The conceit turns an achievement of sorts into a display of insecurity. Put it together with the avoidance of any references to Penn and it's almost sad.