How HYP students and alum feel about the other Ivies

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Anonymous wrote:While Penn Wharton is more impressive than Cornell hotel management it is still inferior to the pedigree of Harvard College, Yale College or Columbia College.

Let results speak for themself. Your idea about pedigree is for dogs.

Results do speak for themselves, why did my DS’s best friend turn down Wharton for Duke if Wharton is in a class above every other school in the country?

Basketball?

Statistically, a Duke basketball player is going to do much better than a Wharton undergrad in lifetime income.

These days, Wharton undergrad seems to be for second generation immigrants that never got the memo about being well rounded.

An MBA is different. But Wharton undergrad is a little... greedy and déclassé.

Penn is Striver Central. They always try to work themselves into the conversation. No one cares about Penn undergraduates.

#1 undergrad business school and #6 ranked national university

And yet somehow still so so irrelevant.

Irrelevant to what? It’s no more relevant or irrelevant to any other school.

One could argue that with the richest person in the world (and massively controversial)…it’s actually pretty relevant right now.

Musk went to Penn, huh? He's never mentioned it now that I think

First I've heard of it too. Musk and Trump. I feel even more confident about my judgements about Penn.

You folks sound pretty stupid. It’s mentioned quite a bit…is it somehow cool to be ignorant?

I sadly keep quite a few tabs on Elon Musk. Never came up that he's a Penn grad. It's an interesting side fact, but he's more likely to trash universities than talk them up so . People like Desantis for example also trash education but will talk about his time at Yale or Harvard.

So…you read things on the Internet…love you “keep tabs”. Again…it’s weird brags by people to admit ignorance.

You really must love hearing your voice.

Hmmm…guess that’s all you have now.

There wasn't much substance
"You're ignorant"
"Okay, lol"
"Wow, you really can't fight with substantive arguments huh"

Hey…again, you are the one bragging about how stupid you are. Good for you. At least you own it.

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Anonymous wrote:While Penn Wharton is more impressive than Cornell hotel management it is still inferior to the pedigree of Harvard College, Yale College or Columbia College.

Let results speak for themself. Your idea about pedigree is for dogs.

Results do speak for themselves, why did my DS’s best friend turn down Wharton for Duke if Wharton is in a class above every other school in the country?

Basketball?

Statistically, a Duke basketball player is going to do much better than a Wharton undergrad in lifetime income.

These days, Wharton undergrad seems to be for second generation immigrants that never got the memo about being well rounded.

An MBA is different. But Wharton undergrad is a little... greedy and déclassé.

Penn is Striver Central. They always try to work themselves into the conversation. No one cares about Penn undergraduates.

#1 undergrad business school and #6 ranked national university

And yet somehow still so so irrelevant.

Irrelevant to what? It’s no more relevant or irrelevant to any other school.

One could argue that with the richest person in the world (and massively controversial)…it’s actually pretty relevant right now.

Musk went to Penn, huh? He's never mentioned it now that I think

First I've heard of it too. Musk and Trump. I feel even more confident about my judgements about Penn.

You folks sound pretty stupid. It’s mentioned quite a bit…is it somehow cool to be ignorant?

I sadly keep quite a few tabs on Elon Musk. Never came up that he's a Penn grad. It's an interesting side fact, but he's more likely to trash universities than talk them up so . People like Desantis for example also trash education but will talk about his time at Yale or Harvard.

So…you read things on the Internet…love you “keep tabs”. Again…it’s weird brags by people to admit ignorance.

You really must love hearing your voice.

Hmmm…guess that’s all you have now.

There wasn't much substance
"You're ignorant"
"Okay, lol"
"Wow, you really can't fight with substantive arguments huh"

Hey…again, you are the one bragging about how stupid you are. Good for you. At least you own it.

I don't look for internet points by a random guy online knowing I'm smart. Maybe you'd be a better Wharton Alum if you followed suit. I'm not going to kowtow, begging you to know my credentials and background to appease you, but, sure, I'm stupid-that just makes me more concerned as to what the hell that makes you.

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Anonymous wrote:While Penn Wharton is more impressive than Cornell hotel management it is still inferior to the pedigree of Harvard College, Yale College or Columbia College.

Let results speak for themself. Your idea about pedigree is for dogs.

Results do speak for themselves, why did my DS’s best friend turn down Wharton for Duke if Wharton is in a class above every other school in the country?

Basketball?

Statistically, a Duke basketball player is going to do much better than a Wharton undergrad in lifetime income.

These days, Wharton undergrad seems to be for second generation immigrants that never got the memo about being well rounded.

An MBA is different. But Wharton undergrad is a little... greedy and déclassé.

Penn is Striver Central. They always try to work themselves into the conversation. No one cares about Penn undergraduates.

#1 undergrad business school and #6 ranked national university

And yet somehow still so so irrelevant.

Irrelevant to what? It’s no more relevant or irrelevant to any other school.

One could argue that with the richest person in the world (and massively controversial)…it’s actually pretty relevant right now.

Musk went to Penn, huh? He's never mentioned it now that I think

First I've heard of it too. Musk and Trump. I feel even more confident about my judgements about Penn.

You folks sound pretty stupid. It’s mentioned quite a bit…is it somehow cool to be ignorant?

I sadly keep quite a few tabs on Elon Musk. Never came up that he's a Penn grad. It's an interesting side fact, but he's more likely to trash universities than talk them up so . People like Desantis for example also trash education but will talk about his time at Yale or Harvard.

So…you read things on the Internet…love you “keep tabs”. Again…it’s weird brags by people to admit ignorance.

You really must love hearing your voice.

Hmmm…guess that’s all you have now.

There wasn't much substance
"You're ignorant"
"Okay, lol"
"Wow, you really can't fight with substantive arguments huh"

Hey…again, you are the one bragging about how stupid you are. Good for you. At least you own it.

I don't look for internet points by a random guy online knowing I'm smart. Maybe you'd be a better Wharton Alum if you followed suit. I'm not going to kowtow, begging you to know my credentials and background to appease you, but, sure, I'm stupid-that just makes me more concerned as to what the hell that makes you.

Always hate arguing with these people, because it is never enough. You can be a subject expert but they will scream liar and bot the second you bring up something they don't know/don't understand

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Anonymous wrote:While Penn Wharton is more impressive than Cornell hotel management it is still inferior to the pedigree of Harvard College, Yale College or Columbia College.

Let results speak for themself. Your idea about pedigree is for dogs.

Results do speak for themselves, why did my DS’s best friend turn down Wharton for Duke if Wharton is in a class above every other school in the country?

Basketball?

Statistically, a Duke basketball player is going to do much better than a Wharton undergrad in lifetime income.

These days, Wharton undergrad seems to be for second generation immigrants that never got the memo about being well rounded.

An MBA is different. But Wharton undergrad is a little... greedy and déclassé.

Penn is Striver Central. They always try to work themselves into the conversation. No one cares about Penn undergraduates.

#1 undergrad business school and #6 ranked national university

And yet somehow still so so irrelevant.

Irrelevant to what? It’s no more relevant or irrelevant to any other school.

One could argue that with the richest person in the world (and massively controversial)…it’s actually pretty relevant right now.

Musk went to Penn, huh? He's never mentioned it now that I think

First I've heard of it too. Musk and Trump. I feel even more confident about my judgements about Penn.

You folks sound pretty stupid. It’s mentioned quite a bit…is it somehow cool to be ignorant?

I sadly keep quite a few tabs on Elon Musk. Never came up that he's a Penn grad. It's an interesting side fact, but he's more likely to trash universities than talk them up so . People like Desantis for example also trash education but will talk about his time at Yale or Harvard.

So…you read things on the Internet…love you “keep tabs”. Again…it’s weird brags by people to admit ignorance.

You really must love hearing your voice.

Hmmm…guess that’s all you have now.

There wasn't much substance
"You're ignorant"
"Okay, lol"
"Wow, you really can't fight with substantive arguments huh"

Hey…again, you are the one bragging about how stupid you are. Good for you. At least you own it.

I don't look for internet points by a random guy online knowing I'm smart. Maybe you'd be a better Wharton Alum if you followed suit. I'm not going to kowtow, begging you to know my credentials and background to appease you, but, sure, I'm stupid-that just makes me more concerned as to what the hell that makes you.

Always hate arguing with these people, because it is never enough. You can be a subject expert but they will scream liar and bot the second you bring up something they don't know/don't understand

Exactly, person doesn’t know relevant current facts, but somehow the fact they don’t know it is in no way a reflection on them.

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Anonymous wrote:While Penn Wharton is more impressive than Cornell hotel management it is still inferior to the pedigree of Harvard College, Yale College or Columbia College.

Let results speak for themself. Your idea about pedigree is for dogs.

Results do speak for themselves, why did my DS’s best friend turn down Wharton for Duke if Wharton is in a class above every other school in the country?

Basketball?

Statistically, a Duke basketball player is going to do much better than a Wharton undergrad in lifetime income.

These days, Wharton undergrad seems to be for second generation immigrants that never got the memo about being well rounded.

An MBA is different. But Wharton undergrad is a little... greedy and déclassé.

Penn is Striver Central. They always try to work themselves into the conversation. No one cares about Penn undergraduates.

#1 undergrad business school and #6 ranked national university

And yet somehow still so so irrelevant.

Irrelevant to what? It’s no more relevant or irrelevant to any other school.

One could argue that with the richest person in the world (and massively controversial)…it’s actually pretty relevant right now.

More people know he's South African than know anything about what college Elon Musk went to (or care). You here more about that in the tech scene from Stanford or MIT grads, occassionally oddball schools get press: Steve Jobs dropping out of Reed. But he's also just an ahole and evil to his own children, not sure that and Donald Trump are good alum representation, but we all have opinions.

No…many people know Elon graduated from Penn too.

Not sure why you feel the need to now make up an alternate reality. The facts are the facts.

However…the comment was about relevance (not whether it was positive or negative).

Oh yeah…all the Biden’s graduated from Penn as well and Joe was just there yesterday.

And Elon’s son currently attends Brown studying Computer Science, Artificial Intelligence, Economics, and Anthropology, among others. He engages in theoretical research and is scheduled to graduate in 2026. Musk is pouring a lot of $ there.

https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/local/2022/06/23/elon-musk-rocket-sbudnic-satellite-brown-university-students-onboard/7650738001/

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Anonymous wrote:While Penn Wharton is more impressive than Cornell hotel management it is still inferior to the pedigree of Harvard College, Yale College or Columbia College.

Let results speak for themself. Your idea about pedigree is for dogs.

Results do speak for themselves, why did my DS’s best friend turn down Wharton for Duke if Wharton is in a class above every other school in the country?

Basketball?

Statistically, a Duke basketball player is going to do much better than a Wharton undergrad in lifetime income.

These days, Wharton undergrad seems to be for second generation immigrants that never got the memo about being well rounded.

An MBA is different. But Wharton undergrad is a little... greedy and déclassé.

Penn is Striver Central. They always try to work themselves into the conversation. No one cares about Penn undergraduates.

#1 undergrad business school and #6 ranked national university

And yet somehow still so so irrelevant.

Irrelevant to what? It’s no more relevant or irrelevant to any other school.

One could argue that with the richest person in the world (and massively controversial)…it’s actually pretty relevant right now.

Musk went to Penn, huh? He's never mentioned it now that I think

First I've heard of it too. Musk and Trump. I feel even more confident about my judgements about Penn.

You folks sound pretty stupid. It’s mentioned quite a bit…is it somehow cool to be ignorant?

I sadly keep quite a few tabs on Elon Musk. Never came up that he's a Penn grad. It's an interesting side fact, but he's more likely to trash universities than talk them up so . People like Desantis for example also trash education but will talk about his time at Yale or Harvard.

So…you read things on the Internet…love you “keep tabs”. Again…it’s weird brags by people to admit ignorance.

You really must love hearing your voice.

Hmmm…guess that’s all you have now.

There wasn't much substance
"You're ignorant"
"Okay, lol"
"Wow, you really can't fight with substantive arguments huh"

Hey…again, you are the one bragging about how stupid you are. Good for you. At least you own it.

I don't look for internet points by a random guy online knowing I'm smart. Maybe you'd be a better Wharton Alum if you followed suit. I'm not going to kowtow, begging you to know my credentials and background to appease you, but, sure, I'm stupid-that just makes me more concerned as to what the hell that makes you.

Always hate arguing with these people, because it is never enough. You can be a subject expert but they will scream liar and bot the second you bring up something they don't know/don't understand

Exactly, person doesn’t know relevant current facts, but somehow the fact they don’t know it is in no way a reflection on them.

Are you always this braggadocious?

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Anonymous wrote:While Penn Wharton is more impressive than Cornell hotel management it is still inferior to the pedigree of Harvard College, Yale College or Columbia College.

Let results speak for themself. Your idea about pedigree is for dogs.

Results do speak for themselves, why did my DS’s best friend turn down Wharton for Duke if Wharton is in a class above every other school in the country?

Basketball?

Statistically, a Duke basketball player is going to do much better than a Wharton undergrad in lifetime income.

These days, Wharton undergrad seems to be for second generation immigrants that never got the memo about being well rounded.

An MBA is different. But Wharton undergrad is a little... greedy and déclassé.

Penn is Striver Central. They always try to work themselves into the conversation. No one cares about Penn undergraduates.

#1 undergrad business school and #6 ranked national university

And yet somehow still so so irrelevant.

Irrelevant to what? It’s no more relevant or irrelevant to any other school.

One could argue that with the richest person in the world (and massively controversial)…it’s actually pretty relevant right now.

Musk went to Penn, huh? He's never mentioned it now that I think

First I've heard of it too. Musk and Trump. I feel even more confident about my judgements about Penn.

You folks sound pretty stupid. It’s mentioned quite a bit…is it somehow cool to be ignorant?

Because people in general don’t know —or care— about where an odious narcissistic businessman with bad judgement and poor social skills went to school, that’s “ignorant?” Lol. Hardly. Your comment is right in the “you must be fun at parties “ box.

Isn’t this entire thread about HYP people? I guess you aren’t one of them…or even someone from any top school.

Yes, that is the topic of the thread. And which of those schools did your muskrat attend? Are you sure you know what the P stands for?

Poor guessing on your part. Tant pis.

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Anonymous wrote:While Penn Wharton is more impressive than Cornell hotel management it is still inferior to the pedigree of Harvard College, Yale College or Columbia College.

Let results speak for themself. Your idea about pedigree is for dogs.

Results do speak for themselves, why did my DS’s best friend turn down Wharton for Duke if Wharton is in a class above every other school in the country?

Basketball?

Statistically, a Duke basketball player is going to do much better than a Wharton undergrad in lifetime income.

These days, Wharton undergrad seems to be for second generation immigrants that never got the memo about being well rounded.

An MBA is different. But Wharton undergrad is a little... greedy and déclassé.

Penn is Striver Central. They always try to work themselves into the conversation. No one cares about Penn undergraduates.

#1 undergrad business school and #6 ranked national university

And yet somehow still so so irrelevant.

Irrelevant to what? It’s no more relevant or irrelevant to any other school.

One could argue that with the richest person in the world (and massively controversial)…it’s actually pretty relevant right now.

More people know he's South African than know anything about what college Elon Musk went to (or care). You here more about that in the tech scene from Stanford or MIT grads, occassionally oddball schools get press: Steve Jobs dropping out of Reed. But he's also just an ahole and evil to his own children, not sure that and Donald Trump are good alum representation, but we all have opinions.

No…many people know Elon graduated from Penn too.

Not sure why you feel the need to now make up an alternate reality. The facts are the facts.

However…the comment was about relevance (not whether it was positive or negative).

Oh yeah…all the Biden’s graduated from Penn as well and Joe was just there yesterday.

And Elon’s son currently attends Brown studying Computer Science, Artificial Intelligence, Economics, and Anthropology, among others. He engages in theoretical research and is scheduled to graduate in 2026. Musk is pouring a lot of $ there.

https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/local/2022/06/23/elon-musk-rocket-sbudnic-satellite-brown-university-students-onboard/7650738001/

Strange he didn't go to his father's alma mater.

[Anonymous]

Why is some idiot from Penn clogging up a thread on HYP. Some people should take extensions of those business etiquette courses and learn to just stfu when it isn't your turn at the table.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At Wharton we didn’t consider ourselves to have any outside college peers.

This poster had it correct.

[Anonymous]

When I went to Brown some of the wealthier kids had more straightlaced older siblings at Harvard and/or nerdier friends at Yale, but we related much more to peers at Wesleyan, Oberlin or Vassar. There was a lot of traveling to NYC on weekends and being impressed by the worldiness of NYU Tisch students. People were mostly at Brown because they were a particular kind of smart kid for whom it was their first choice. But this was during Brown’s hipster era. I feel like it’s much more conventionally “ivy” now.

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Anonymous wrote:When I went to Brown some of the wealthier kids had more straightlaced older siblings at Harvard and/or nerdier friends at Yale, but we related much more to peers at Wesleyan, Oberlin or Vassar. There was a lot of traveling to NYC on weekends and being impressed by the worldiness of NYU Tisch students. People were mostly at Brown because they were a particular kind of smart kid for whom it was their first choice. But this was during Brown’s hipster era. I feel like it’s much more conventionally “ivy” now.

It's much the same. Those are even back up schools for Brown, other than Vassar-it's gotten weird over there.

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Anonymous wrote:While Penn Wharton is more impressive than Cornell hotel management it is still inferior to the pedigree of Harvard College, Yale College or Columbia College.

Let results speak for themself. Your idea about pedigree is for dogs.

Results do speak for themselves, why did my DS’s best friend turn down Wharton for Duke if Wharton is in a class above every other school in the country?

Basketball?

Statistically, a Duke basketball player is going to do much better than a Wharton undergrad in lifetime income.

These days, Wharton undergrad seems to be for second generation immigrants that never got the memo about being well rounded.

An MBA is different. But Wharton undergrad is a little... greedy and déclassé.

Penn is Striver Central. They always try to work themselves into the conversation. No one cares about Penn undergraduates.

#1 undergrad business school and #6 ranked national university

And yet somehow still so so irrelevant.

Irrelevant to what? It’s no more relevant or irrelevant to any other school.

One could argue that with the richest person in the world (and massively controversial)…it’s actually pretty relevant right now.

Musk went to Penn, huh? He's never mentioned it now that I think

First I've heard of it too. Musk and Trump. I feel even more confident about my judgements about Penn.

You folks sound pretty stupid. It’s mentioned quite a bit…is it somehow cool to be ignorant?

I sadly keep quite a few tabs on Elon Musk. Never came up that he's a Penn grad. It's an interesting side fact, but he's more likely to trash universities than talk them up so . People like Desantis for example also trash education but will talk about his time at Yale or Harvard.

So…you read things on the Internet…love you “keep tabs”. Again…it’s weird brags by people to admit ignorance.

You really must love hearing your voice.

Hmmm…guess that’s all you have now.

There wasn't much substance
"You're ignorant"
"Okay, lol"
"Wow, you really can't fight with substantive arguments huh"

Hey…again, you are the one bragging about how stupid you are. Good for you. At least you own it.

I don't look for internet points by a random guy online knowing I'm smart. Maybe you'd be a better Wharton Alum if you followed suit. I'm not going to kowtow, begging you to know my credentials and background to appease you, but, sure, I'm stupid-that just makes me more concerned as to what the hell that makes you.

Always hate arguing with these people, because it is never enough. You can be a subject expert but they will scream liar and bot the second you bring up something they don't know/don't understand

Exactly, person doesn’t know relevant current facts, but somehow the fact they don’t know it is in no way a reflection on them.

DP. What do people bet this is the same poster trying to look like he has consensus? (Normally, I'd say "she" as default for Urbanmoms, but this kind of dog/bone posturing smacks of dude energy). No one else is invested in your grandstanding, dude.

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Anonymous wrote:When I went to Brown some of the wealthier kids had more straightlaced older siblings at Harvard and/or nerdier friends at Yale, but we related much more to peers at Wesleyan, Oberlin or Vassar. There was a lot of traveling to NYC on weekends and being impressed by the worldiness of NYU Tisch students. People were mostly at Brown because they were a particular kind of smart kid for whom it was their first choice. But this was during Brown’s hipster era. I feel like it’s much more conventionally “ivy” now.

Mine is there now, and I'd say it still attracts a particular kind of cross-disciplined smart kid (some blend of arts or service or advocacy with STEM, humanities, or entrepreneurship). The academic rigor and achievement required to get in has ratcheted up I'd suspect, just because more applying and FA is much better for mid/lower class than it used to be. First choice for mine and friend group (as far as I know). All (these friends) are very happy. One friend transferred from HYP.

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Anonymous wrote:While Penn Wharton is more impressive than Cornell hotel management it is still inferior to the pedigree of Harvard College, Yale College or Columbia College.

Let results speak for themself. Your idea about pedigree is for dogs.

Results do speak for themselves, why did my DS’s best friend turn down Wharton for Duke if Wharton is in a class above every other school in the country?

Basketball?

Statistically, a Duke basketball player is going to do much better than a Wharton undergrad in lifetime income.

These days, Wharton undergrad seems to be for second generation immigrants that never got the memo about being well rounded.

An MBA is different. But Wharton undergrad is a little... greedy and déclassé.

Penn is Striver Central. They always try to work themselves into the conversation. No one cares about Penn undergraduates.

#1 undergrad business school and #6 ranked national university

So less elite than Harvard and Yale. Undergraduate business degrees are not relevant to the conversation. True elites are study the liberal arts in college not marketing or real estate.