Saving seats on SWA

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Anonymous wrote:I stopped paying for early boarding on southwest because they, like every airline in 2024, have hoards of not actually disabled being wheeled down in a wheelchair so they board first. I used to get a bulk head almost guaranteed with early boarding and I don’t remember the last time it was even close to available even in A1.

Yes, so many questionable pre early boarding.

They should tell the pre boarders they are not allowed to choose a bulkhead. They DO tell them that they cannot sit in the exit row.

Why? I pre-board with my child (who has an ADA covered condition) and we typically choose a bulkhead, because there’s nothing about her condition which makes a bulkhead less safe (unlike an exit door, which you have to be fit to open!) and because seating her in a bulkhead means no risk of someone having their seat kicked. This seems more considerate, what’s your objection?

It’s a premium seat you are getting without paying the premium. And taking it away from those paying the premium. It’s zero sum.

So? You aren’t paying for a bulkhead seat, you’re paying to board in the first group. If six people line up before you, you’re equally not getting the “premium” seat you feel you paid for. This way no one has their flight impacted by a squirmy toddler behind them. My way considers other people, your way considers only your own comfort, I’m not sure you’re the moral high ground.

You didn’t pay for anything. So I’m not sure what your point is. You are just boarding early for free. Don’t pretend this is about anyone but you.

We’re boarding early for free because it’s safer for my child, and the ADA considers it a reasonable accommodation. Airlines are following the law by letting people with disabilities preboard, not doing anyone a favor. They could enforce it more strictly (and SWA required more documents than any other airline) but it’s just the law.

So in following the law I choose a compliant seat that doesn’t belong to anyone because southwest has an open seating policy. If I sat in your paid-for bulkhead seat on American or United you’d have something to complain about.

Southwest requires literally nothing.

They asked to see her medical devices and her doctors note before we boarded. UA, Delta and American haven’t.

They never ask us anything. Non-physical issue.

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Anonymous wrote:I stopped paying for early boarding on southwest because they, like every airline in 2024, have hoards of not actually disabled being wheeled down in a wheelchair so they board first. I used to get a bulk head almost guaranteed with early boarding and I don’t remember the last time it was even close to available even in A1.

Yes, so many questionable pre early boarding.

They should tell the pre boarders they are not allowed to choose a bulkhead. They DO tell them that they cannot sit in the exit row.

Why? I pre-board with my child (who has an ADA covered condition) and we typically choose a bulkhead, because there’s nothing about her condition which makes a bulkhead less safe (unlike an exit door, which you have to be fit to open!) and because seating her in a bulkhead means no risk of someone having their seat kicked. This seems more considerate, what’s your objection?

It’s a premium seat you are getting without paying the premium. And taking it away from those paying the premium. It’s zero sum.

So? You aren’t paying for a bulkhead seat, you’re paying to board in the first group. If six people line up before you, you’re equally not getting the “premium” seat you feel you paid for. This way no one has their flight impacted by a squirmy toddler behind them. My way considers other people, your way considers only your own comfort, I’m not sure you’re the moral high ground.

You didn’t pay for anything. So I’m not sure what your point is. You are just boarding early for free. Don’t pretend this is about anyone but you.

We’re boarding early for free because it’s safer for my child, and the ADA considers it a reasonable accommodation. Airlines are following the law by letting people with disabilities preboard, not doing anyone a favor. They could enforce it more strictly (and SWA required more documents than any other airline) but it’s just the law.

So in following the law I choose a compliant seat that doesn’t belong to anyone because southwest has an open seating policy. If I sat in your paid-for bulkhead seat on American or United you’d have something to complain about.

Southwest requires literally nothing.

They asked to see her medical devices and her doctors note before we boarded. UA, Delta and American haven’t.

They never ask us anything. Non-physical issue.

Sounds like they’re not following their own policy in your case, which says they ascertain eligibility for pre-board https://support.southwest.com/helpcenter/s/article/preboarding but that is what we have also experienced on other airlines so I’m not surprised.

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Anonymous wrote:I stopped paying for early boarding on southwest because they, like every airline in 2024, have hoards of not actually disabled being wheeled down in a wheelchair so they board first. I used to get a bulk head almost guaranteed with early boarding and I don’t remember the last time it was even close to available even in A1.

Yes, so many questionable pre early boarding.

They should tell the pre boarders they are not allowed to choose a bulkhead. They DO tell them that they cannot sit in the exit row.

Why? I pre-board with my child (who has an ADA covered condition) and we typically choose a bulkhead, because there’s nothing about her condition which makes a bulkhead less safe (unlike an exit door, which you have to be fit to open!) and because seating her in a bulkhead means no risk of someone having their seat kicked. This seems more considerate, what’s your objection?

It’s a premium seat you are getting without paying the premium. And taking it away from those paying the premium. It’s zero sum.

So? You aren’t paying for a bulkhead seat, you’re paying to board in the first group. If six people line up before you, you’re equally not getting the “premium” seat you feel you paid for. This way no one has their flight impacted by a squirmy toddler behind them. My way considers other people, your way considers only your own comfort, I’m not sure you’re the moral high ground.

You didn’t pay for anything. So I’m not sure what your point is. You are just boarding early for free. Don’t pretend this is about anyone but you.

We’re boarding early for free because it’s safer for my child, and the ADA considers it a reasonable accommodation. Airlines are following the law by letting people with disabilities preboard, not doing anyone a favor. They could enforce it more strictly (and SWA required more documents than any other airline) but it’s just the law.

So in following the law I choose a compliant seat that doesn’t belong to anyone because southwest has an open seating policy. If I sat in your paid-for bulkhead seat on American or United you’d have something to complain about.

Southwest requires literally nothing.

They asked to see her medical devices and her doctors note before we boarded. UA, Delta and American haven’t.

They never ask us anything. Non-physical issue.

Sounds like they’re not following their own policy in your case, which says they ascertain eligibility for pre-board https://support.southwest.com/helpcenter/s/article/preboarding but that is what we have also experienced on other airlines so I’m not surprised.

It just says you will be asked questions. It never says anywhere you must provide proof. It’s all verbal.

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Anonymous wrote:I stopped paying for early boarding on southwest because they, like every airline in 2024, have hoards of not actually disabled being wheeled down in a wheelchair so they board first. I used to get a bulk head almost guaranteed with early boarding and I don’t remember the last time it was even close to available even in A1.

Yes, so many questionable pre early boarding.

They should tell the pre boarders they are not allowed to choose a bulkhead. They DO tell them that they cannot sit in the exit row.

Why? I pre-board with my child (who has an ADA covered condition) and we typically choose a bulkhead, because there’s nothing about her condition which makes a bulkhead less safe (unlike an exit door, which you have to be fit to open!) and because seating her in a bulkhead means no risk of someone having their seat kicked. This seems more considerate, what’s your objection?

It’s a premium seat you are getting without paying the premium. And taking it away from those paying the premium. It’s zero sum.

So? You aren’t paying for a bulkhead seat, you’re paying to board in the first group. If six people line up before you, you’re equally not getting the “premium” seat you feel you paid for. This way no one has their flight impacted by a squirmy toddler behind them. My way considers other people, your way considers only your own comfort, I’m not sure you’re the moral high ground.

You didn’t pay for anything. So I’m not sure what your point is. You are just boarding early for free. Don’t pretend this is about anyone but you.

We’re boarding early for free because it’s safer for my child, and the ADA considers it a reasonable accommodation. Airlines are following the law by letting people with disabilities preboard, not doing anyone a favor. They could enforce it more strictly (and SWA required more documents than any other airline) but it’s just the law.

So in following the law I choose a compliant seat that doesn’t belong to anyone because southwest has an open seating policy. If I sat in your paid-for bulkhead seat on American or United you’d have something to complain about.

Southwest requires literally nothing.

They asked to see her medical devices and her doctors note before we boarded. UA, Delta and American haven’t.

They never ask us anything. Non-physical issue.

Sounds like they’re not following their own policy in your case, which says they ascertain eligibility for pre-board https://support.southwest.com/helpcenter/s/article/preboarding but that is what we have also experienced on other airlines so I’m not surprised.

It just says you will be asked questions. It never says anywhere you must provide proof. It’s all verbal.

They never ask us anything. Non-physical issue.

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Anonymous wrote:I stopped paying for early boarding on southwest because they, like every airline in 2024, have hoards of not actually disabled being wheeled down in a wheelchair so they board first. I used to get a bulk head almost guaranteed with early boarding and I don’t remember the last time it was even close to available even in A1.

Yes. WTF is up with this. I was on a flight in the Fall where we had 18 wheel chair people. Only 2 of these people needed wheelchairs to get off the plane. I just can't with these older boomers and silent gen folks.

Jetway Jesus saves them! Haven't you seen the miracles??! They miraculously can walk just fine after getting away from the jetway.

My parents are in their 90s and have needed wheelchairs for travel for about a decade even though they can walk short distance. My mom has intersititial lung disease so can’t walk very far and my dad has a bum hip plus neuropathy in his feet. I’ve only ever seen those long wheelchair lines when flying into/out of Arizona or Florida or maybe Nevada.

The wheelchairs should be first on and last off. I recently got held up by a few selfish wheel chair users trying to make a tight connection, because the plane arrived late. The flight attendants made an announcement to let people off who needed to make a connection first. But one wheel chair user insisted on walking down the jet bridge, very slowly, not using her chair while the chair pusher ambled slowly next to her blocking the rest of us from getting off. Either sit in the damn wheel chair or walk in front of the wheel chair pusher if you refuse to use the chair you requested in single file. So rude and selfish. The chair pusher was an airport employee and still wouldn't get out of the way when asked politely to let others by.

What is wrong with you?

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Anonymous wrote:We’ve only done it for ourselves and child. So one of us will pay for group A then save 2 seats in our row for spouse and child.
I don’t have an objection to other people doing the same to sit with family.

I hate people like you. “Going you skirt the rules for the convenience of my family and/or myself. I am me and rules don’t apply.”

There is nothing wrong with saving a few seats.

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Anonymous wrote:We’ve only done it for ourselves and child. So one of us will pay for group A then save 2 seats in our row for spouse and child.
I don’t have an objection to other people doing the same to sit with family.

I hate people like you. “Going you skirt the rules for the convenience of my family and/or myself. I am me and rules don’t apply.”

There is nothing wrong with saving a few seats.

If you all want specific seats (together) why isn’t everyone in the group boarding together?

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Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

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Anonymous wrote:We’ve only done it for ourselves and child. So one of us will pay for group A then save 2 seats in our row for spouse and child.
I don’t have an objection to other people doing the same to sit with family.

I hate people like you. “Going you skirt the rules for the convenience of my family and/or myself. I am me and rules don’t apply.”

There is nothing wrong with saving a few seats.

If you all want specific seats (together) why isn’t everyone in the group boarding together?

Parents are entitled to sit with children without paying more for it.

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.

Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.

Yes. But this is also true for the pre boarders who don’t pay at all.

Because they have special needs..

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

There are plenty of ways to sit together without buying A select. You pay for early bird check in or you can just check in on time. “Be nice” means play by the rules the rest of us are playing by.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those if you objecting to the seat savers for family because we didn’t pay the extra for A boarding are assuming we’re all paying the exact same amount for our seats. Therefore we shouldn’t we allowed to do it.
The reality is with all airlines the prices are all over the place. You could be sitting next to someone who paid double what you did just to get a ticket.
Just be nice.

Boarding early to have more seat choice is an extra add on (or sometimes included in a higher priced seat). If an individual does not pay for it, they should not get it because their wife paid for it. Imagine paying extra at Disney to skip the line..and then pulling your spouse or whole family in based on your one purchase.

Lots of people get preferential treatment on a plane because of their spouse or family members spending more money/having status, or for other reasons they don’t pay for. If this something that truly bothers you, air travel in 2024 is not for you.

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Anonymous wrote:I stopped paying for early boarding on southwest because they, like every airline in 2024, have hoards of not actually disabled being wheeled down in a wheelchair so they board first. I used to get a bulk head almost guaranteed with early boarding and I don’t remember the last time it was even close to available even in A1.

Yes, so many questionable pre early boarding.

They should tell the pre boarders they are not allowed to choose a bulkhead. They DO tell them that they cannot sit in the exit row.

Why? I pre-board with my child (who has an ADA covered condition) and we typically choose a bulkhead, because there’s nothing about her condition which makes a bulkhead less safe (unlike an exit door, which you have to be fit to open!) and because seating her in a bulkhead means no risk of someone having their seat kicked. This seems more considerate, what’s your objection?

It’s a premium seat you are getting without paying the premium. And taking it away from those paying the premium. It’s zero sum.

So? You aren’t paying for a bulkhead seat, you’re paying to board in the first group. If six people line up before you, you’re equally not getting the “premium” seat you feel you paid for. This way no one has their flight impacted by a squirmy toddler behind them. My way considers other people, your way considers only your own comfort, I’m not sure you’re the moral high ground.

You didn’t pay for anything. So I’m not sure what your point is. You are just boarding early for free. Don’t pretend this is about anyone but you.

We’re boarding early for free because it’s safer for my child, and the ADA considers it a reasonable accommodation. Airlines are following the law by letting people with disabilities preboard, not doing anyone a favor. They could enforce it more strictly (and SWA required more documents than any other airline) but it’s just the law.

So in following the law I choose a compliant seat that doesn’t belong to anyone because southwest has an open seating policy. If I sat in your paid-for bulkhead seat on American or United you’d have something to complain about.

Southwest requires literally nothing.

They asked to see her medical devices and her doctors note before we boarded. UA, Delta and American haven’t.

Bull$hit. They can’t ask this