If you had a negative experience traveling to Disney, can you share why?

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

How would you know how many spots were taken by DAS users at the beginning of the day? Under the old system, slots for DAS users to reserve rides in advance were limited. Large numbers of DAS users could not take up LLs before the parks even open.

DAS advance planning is still very limited. Two rides per day (limited selection) which hasn’t changed. The advanced availability is pretty limited.

yes but Disney collects data and analyzes it so of course they know how many of the LL DAS was taking up. And it was clearly too many. Not to mention people doubling up with DAS and genie+.

Any yet per the data posted above, Genie plus attractions are selling out early in the day for popular attractions under the new rules. How then, is restricting DAS helping? It’s just as likely that Disney wants to to sell more G+ and ILLs.

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn’t they make DAS just use the same system as genie plus? It doesn’t seem fair they can get a das pass to rides that are sold out on genie plus.

They can also do it again and again, they aren't just limited to one a day. This is why they are so angry they know what a sweet deal they had but Disney nipped it in the bud for many.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

How would you know how many spots were taken by DAS users at the beginning of the day? Under the old system, slots for DAS users to reserve rides in advance were limited. Large numbers of DAS users could not take up LLs before the parks even open.

DAS advance planning is still very limited. Two rides per day (limited selection) which hasn’t changed. The advanced availability is pretty limited.

yes but Disney collects data and analyzes it so of course they know how many of the LL DAS was taking up. And it was clearly too many. Not to mention people doubling up with DAS and genie+.

Any yet per the data posted above, Genie plus attractions are selling out early in the day for popular attractions under the new rules. How then, is restricting DAS helping? It’s just as likely that Disney wants to to sell more G+ and ILLs.

Probably because they can better manage crowds, lines, stand by times, etc for everyone. Not just the heavy repeat users.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

How would you know how many spots were taken by DAS users at the beginning of the day? Under the old system, slots for DAS users to reserve rides in advance were limited. Large numbers of DAS users could not take up LLs before the parks even open.

DAS advance planning is still very limited. Two rides per day (limited selection) which hasn’t changed. The advanced availability is pretty limited.

yes but Disney collects data and analyzes it so of course they know how many of the LL DAS was taking up. And it was clearly too many. Not to mention people doubling up with DAS and genie+.

Any yet per the data posted above, Genie plus attractions are selling out early in the day for popular attractions under the new rules. How then, is restricting DAS helping? It’s just as likely that Disney wants to to sell more G+ and ILLs.

Probably because they can better manage crowds, lines, stand by times, etc for everyone. Not just the heavy repeat users.

But one of the PP’s complaints was about Genie + availability. How is it helping?

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

How would you know how many spots were taken by DAS users at the beginning of the day? Under the old system, slots for DAS users to reserve rides in advance were limited. Large numbers of DAS users could not take up LLs before the parks even open.

DAS advance planning is still very limited. Two rides per day (limited selection) which hasn’t changed. The advanced availability is pretty limited.

yes but Disney collects data and analyzes it so of course they know how many of the LL DAS was taking up. And it was clearly too many. Not to mention people doubling up with DAS and genie+.

Any yet per the data posted above, Genie plus attractions are selling out early in the day for popular attractions under the new rules. How then, is restricting DAS helping? It’s just as likely that Disney wants to to sell more G+ and ILLs.

Probably because they can better manage crowds, lines, stand by times, etc for everyone. Not just the heavy repeat users.

But one of the PP’s complaints was about Genie + availability. How is it helping?

Do you not understand? Other people can't get any LL for popular rides even once. DAS users can get whatever ride they want, just by returning after the wait time, and they can do it again all day long. There are many more DAS users out there than you seem to realize. Restricting the number of DAS passes frees up availability for many other people in a more fair manner.

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn’t they make DAS just use the same system as genie plus? It doesn’t seem fair they can get a das pass to rides that are sold out on genie plus.

it seems like with the recent narrowing of DAS eligibility, they are trying to keep the flexibility of DAS but for fewer people who really need it. that makes sense to me.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

How would you know how many spots were taken by DAS users at the beginning of the day? Under the old system, slots for DAS users to reserve rides in advance were limited. Large numbers of DAS users could not take up LLs before the parks even open.

DAS advance planning is still very limited. Two rides per day (limited selection) which hasn’t changed. The advanced availability is pretty limited.

yes but Disney collects data and analyzes it so of course they know how many of the LL DAS was taking up. And it was clearly too many. Not to mention people doubling up with DAS and genie+.

Any yet per the data posted above, Genie plus attractions are selling out early in the day for popular attractions under the new rules. How then, is restricting DAS helping? It’s just as likely that Disney wants to to sell more G+ and ILLs.

the DAS changes have not fully phased in yet. the eligibility criteria changed on May 20 but a lot of people will have the eligibility under the old system for several more weeks since eligibility lasted up to 60 days.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

How would you know how many spots were taken by DAS users at the beginning of the day? Under the old system, slots for DAS users to reserve rides in advance were limited. Large numbers of DAS users could not take up LLs before the parks even open.

DAS advance planning is still very limited. Two rides per day (limited selection) which hasn’t changed. The advanced availability is pretty limited.

yes but Disney collects data and analyzes it so of course they know how many of the LL DAS was taking up. And it was clearly too many. Not to mention people doubling up with DAS and genie+.

Any yet per the data posted above, Genie plus attractions are selling out early in the day for popular attractions under the new rules. How then, is restricting DAS helping? It’s just as likely that Disney wants to to sell more G+ and ILLs.

Probably because they can better manage crowds, lines, stand by times, etc for everyone. Not just the heavy repeat users.

But one of the PP’s complaints was about Genie + availability. How is it helping?

Do you not understand? Other people can't get any LL for popular rides even once. DAS users can get whatever ride they want, just by returning after the wait time, and they can do it again all day long. There are many more DAS users out there than you seem to realize. Restricting the number of DAS passes frees up availability for many other people in a more fair manner.

What do you not understand? The rules have changed, and a ride like Slinky Dog is still sold out within and hour, so how can that be caused by DAS abuse?

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn’t they make DAS just use the same system as genie plus? It doesn’t seem fair they can get a das pass to rides that are sold out on genie plus.

They can also do it again and again, they aren't just limited to one a day. This is why they are so angry they know what a sweet deal they had but Disney nipped it in the bud for many.

and bring what, 8 family members??

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

How would you know how many spots were taken by DAS users at the beginning of the day? Under the old system, slots for DAS users to reserve rides in advance were limited. Large numbers of DAS users could not take up LLs before the parks even open.

DAS advance planning is still very limited. Two rides per day (limited selection) which hasn’t changed. The advanced availability is pretty limited.

yes but Disney collects data and analyzes it so of course they know how many of the LL DAS was taking up. And it was clearly too many. Not to mention people doubling up with DAS and genie+.

Any yet per the data posted above, Genie plus attractions are selling out early in the day for popular attractions under the new rules. How then, is restricting DAS helping? It’s just as likely that Disney wants to to sell more G+ and ILLs.

Probably because they can better manage crowds, lines, stand by times, etc for everyone. Not just the heavy repeat users.

But one of the PP’s complaints was about Genie + availability. How is it helping?

Do you not understand? Other people can't get any LL for popular rides even once. DAS users can get whatever ride they want, just by returning after the wait time, and they can do it again all day long. There are many more DAS users out there than you seem to realize. Restricting the number of DAS passes frees up availability for many other people in a more fair manner.

What do you not understand? The rules have changed, and a ride like Slinky Dog is still sold out within and hour, so how can that be caused by DAS abuse?

1. Even if it sold out immediately a lot more Genie+ users might have gotten slots and at better times
2. DAS restrictions have not fully phased in yet

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Np. To answer OP’s question, my kids enjoyed it while we were there, but surprisingly they have yet to ask to return. My 8 year-old said she prefers skiing in West Virginia than returning to Disneyworld. I was shocked actually. She said she had more fun skiing, tubing, and also spending time in the pool at the hotel! I was like hotel pool vs the pools at Art of Animation?!!

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I think it is a one & done experience. It’s cool, but the hassles (heat, lines, etc) are a preventative crime going back.

You’ve been with your kids, so you had the experience- why do you want them to go back?

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

How would you know how many spots were taken by DAS users at the beginning of the day? Under the old system, slots for DAS users to reserve rides in advance were limited. Large numbers of DAS users could not take up LLs before the parks even open.

DAS advance planning is still very limited. Two rides per day (limited selection) which hasn’t changed. The advanced availability is pretty limited.

yes but Disney collects data and analyzes it so of course they know how many of the LL DAS was taking up. And it was clearly too many. Not to mention people doubling up with DAS and genie+.

Any yet per the data posted above, Genie plus attractions are selling out early in the day for popular attractions under the new rules. How then, is restricting DAS helping? It’s just as likely that Disney wants to to sell more G+ and ILLs.

Probably because they can better manage crowds, lines, stand by times, etc for everyone. Not just the heavy repeat users.

But one of the PP’s complaints was about Genie + availability. How is it helping?

Do you not understand? Other people can't get any LL for popular rides even once. DAS users can get whatever ride they want, just by returning after the wait time, and they can do it again all day long. There are many more DAS users out there than you seem to realize. Restricting the number of DAS passes frees up availability for many other people in a more fair manner.

What do you not understand? The rules have changed, and a ride like Slinky Dog is still sold out within and hour, so how can that be caused by DAS abuse?

Do you think there hasn't been any DAS abuse? It's really neither her nor there if you personally thought there was a problem, the rules have changed regardless.

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It is hot. Crowded. Long lines for 1 ride.

Honestly if you are a Disney lover, go stay at the resorts for a long weekend. Enjoy the pools at your resort & go to Magic Kingdom one night as a super special treat for a few rides.

It really is overwhelming & too much for most kids.

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Yeah, it kind of sucks. We’ve been twice & joke about all the kids we heard ask “can we just go back to the pool?”

Disney made it too difficult to enjoy. It is such a haze trying to get spots on a ride, & the. The parents are stressed out getting there, & spending all day on their phones trying to get slots..it’s a lot.