Arlington travel tryouts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:received 2015 B Arlington offer for Silver which is the lowest team and have DCSC offer for Red which is 2nd team. Thanks for the advice as DCSC is freely letting me delay my decision. I'm torn as to which one to take.

Can you handle the commute to DCSC practices? If so, much clearer path there to #1 team at a young age if that is your goal. The practices may be more competitive (development). It is a good club. However, depending on the depth of the 2015B group at Arlington and DC's level, the Arlington Silver team could be a good, competitive environment for development.

Arlington tends to lock in players to tiers at very young ages and stick to it. Part of it is that there are just so many players trying out at a young age (hard to get a handle on it). Plus, they get a lot of new players externally and at Arlington the tie-breaker goes to external players for placement onto higher teams. Even if your DC develops, you will have a hard road getting them advanced to higher tier teams, but not impossible. Ironically, going to DCSC at a young age may put you into better position for placement on a higher Arlington team down the road (again, if that is your goal).

I have no idea how to tell if the 2nd DC team is any good compared to the last Arlington team but do know of a few players who were moved up from Gold & Black onto Red & white... Don't have a clue as to what is better at this point. Don't want to burn the Arlington bridge

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nada on 2015g for current travel player

Has anyone heard yet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nada on 2015g for current travel player

Has anyone heard yet?

Yes, blue and black have heard (and higher teams presumably)

[Anonymous]

Yep have heard from 15+ 2015g as of 13:00 of their offers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know it’s not exclusively McLean but yes. I think the greater concern for others on this forum is being an existing Arlington player who gets bumped down for an existing McLean player. Mclean’s top teams in certain age groups are about the same, maybe a little worse, than Arlington. So there’s a higher chance that a top team spot that could go to an existing Arlington player will instead go to a top team McLean player who isn’t all that much better, if at all.

Anonymous wrote:I think you’re saying top Arlington teams will likely have some new members from McLean. If so, I am not surprised given the tenor on these forums about the club and the loss of their ECNL charter. I also think the culture of the two clubs and family demographics are similar enough to make Arlington an attractive alternative for families looking for more stable teams than McLean has to offer these days.

+100000% 2011G red is a perfect example of this. Arlington should be ashamed of itself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nada on 2015g for current travel player

Has anyone heard yet?

Yes, blue and black have heard (and higher teams presumably)

Haven't heard anything yet for a returning player. Has everyone returning heard?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nada on 2015g for current travel player

Has anyone heard yet?

Yes, blue and black have heard (and higher teams presumably)

Haven't heard anything yet for a returning player. Has everyone returning heard?

No, 2013 still waiting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know it’s not exclusively McLean but yes. I think the greater concern for others on this forum is being an existing Arlington player who gets bumped down for an existing McLean player. Mclean’s top teams in certain age groups are about the same, maybe a little worse, than Arlington. So there’s a higher chance that a top team spot that could go to an existing Arlington player will instead go to a top team McLean player who isn’t all that much better, if at all.

Anonymous wrote:I think you’re saying top Arlington teams will likely have some new members from McLean. If so, I am not surprised given the tenor on these forums about the club and the loss of their ECNL charter. I also think the culture of the two clubs and family demographics are similar enough to make Arlington an attractive alternative for families looking for more stable teams than McLean has to offer these days.

+100000% 2011G red is a perfect example of this. Arlington should be ashamed of itself.

PP here. Another set of offers went out yesterday. That concern of being replaced by worse players has sadly come true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:received 2015 B Arlington offer for Silver which is the lowest team and have DCSC offer for Red which is 2nd team. Thanks for the advice as DCSC is freely letting me delay my decision. I'm torn as to which one to take.

Can you handle the commute to DCSC practices? If so, much clearer path there to #1 team at a young age if that is your goal. The practices may be more competitive (development). It is a good club. However, depending on the depth of the 2015B group at Arlington and DC's level, the Arlington Silver team could be a good, competitive environment for development.

Arlington tends to lock in players to tiers at very young ages and stick to it. Part of it is that there are just so many players trying out at a young age (hard to get a handle on it). Plus, they get a lot of new players externally and at Arlington the tie-breaker goes to external players for placement onto higher teams. Even if your DC develops, you will have a hard road getting them advanced to higher tier teams, but not impossible. Ironically, going to DCSC at a young age may put you into better position for placement on a higher Arlington team down the road (again, if that is your goal).

I have no idea how to tell if the 2nd DC team is any good compared to the last Arlington team but do know of a few players who were moved up from Gold & Black onto Red & white... Don't have a clue as to what is better at this point. Don't want to burn the Arlington bridge

Good luck getting past Red if you are at pre-academy/academy team and you are not one of the coaches golden children. Arlington wants you to “trust the system” for years but then hauls in a majority of outside players when it really counts.

That’s all you need to know about the program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:received 2015 B Arlington offer for Silver which is the lowest team and have DCSC offer for Red which is 2nd team. Thanks for the advice as DCSC is freely letting me delay my decision. I'm torn as to which one to take.

Can you handle the commute to DCSC practices? If so, much clearer path there to #1 team at a young age if that is your goal. The practices may be more competitive (development). It is a good club. However, depending on the depth of the 2015B group at Arlington and DC's level, the Arlington Silver team could be a good, competitive environment for development.

Arlington tends to lock in players to tiers at very young ages and stick to it. Part of it is that there are just so many players trying out at a young age (hard to get a handle on it). Plus, they get a lot of new players externally and at Arlington the tie-breaker goes to external players for placement onto higher teams. Even if your DC develops, you will have a hard road getting them advanced to higher tier teams, but not impossible. Ironically, going to DCSC at a young age may put you into better position for placement on a higher Arlington team down the road (again, if that is your goal).

I have no idea how to tell if the 2nd DC team is any good compared to the last Arlington team but do know of a few players who were moved up from Gold & Black onto Red & white... Don't have a clue as to what is better at this point. Don't want to burn the Arlington bridge

Good luck getting past Red if you are at pre-academy/academy team and you are not one of the coaches golden children. Arlington wants you to “trust the system” for years but then hauls in a majority of outside players when it really counts.

That’s all you need to know about the program.

This isn't exclusive to Arlington. You need to prove that you are substantially better than multiple current top team players in order to be promoted. Other clubs also have this philosophy. There are usually only one or two who break through over the years. Yes, while it's not necessarily fair, that's how the system works. Your options are to try out at other clubs. If your kid is not offered top team there either, then maybe it's time to look within and accept there's something not clicking. Will also say that a good portion of US soccer coaches couldn't identify talent in front of them because they are interested in kickball style winning. Among Arlington's perceived faults, this is not one.

[Anonymous]

Arlington coaches don’t coach. Kids scrimmage 24x7.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Arlington coaches don’t coach. Kids scrimmage 24x7.

You are confused about coaching/practicing versus training

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:received 2015 B Arlington offer for Silver which is the lowest team and have DCSC offer for Red which is 2nd team. Thanks for the advice as DCSC is freely letting me delay my decision. I'm torn as to which one to take.

Can you handle the commute to DCSC practices? If so, much clearer path there to #1 team at a young age if that is your goal. The practices may be more competitive (development). It is a good club. However, depending on the depth of the 2015B group at Arlington and DC's level, the Arlington Silver team could be a good, competitive environment for development.

Arlington tends to lock in players to tiers at very young ages and stick to it. Part of it is that there are just so many players trying out at a young age (hard to get a handle on it). Plus, they get a lot of new players externally and at Arlington the tie-breaker goes to external players for placement onto higher teams. Even if your DC develops, you will have a hard road getting them advanced to higher tier teams, but not impossible. Ironically, going to DCSC at a young age may put you into better position for placement on a higher Arlington team down the road (again, if that is your goal).

I have no idea how to tell if the 2nd DC team is any good compared to the last Arlington team but do know of a few players who were moved up from Gold & Black onto Red & white... Don't have a clue as to what is better at this point. Don't want to burn the Arlington bridge

Good luck getting past Red if you are at pre-academy/academy team and you are not one of the coaches golden children. Arlington wants you to “trust the system” for years but then hauls in a majority of outside players when it really counts.

That’s all you need to know about the program.

This isn't exclusive to Arlington. You need to prove that you are substantially better than multiple current top team players in order to be promoted. Other clubs also have this philosophy. There are usually only one or two who break through over the years. Yes, while it's not necessarily fair, that's how the system works. Your options are to try out at other clubs. If your kid is not offered top team there either, then maybe it's time to look within and accept there's something not clicking. Will also say that a good portion of US soccer coaches couldn't identify talent in front of them because they are interested in kickball style winning. Among Arlington's perceived faults, this is not one.

Its complete BS. My kids left after years of the crap. Ended up on MLSNext and different ECNL team. Senior is going to play D1 next year. We could have just stayed for years getting 'looked over' in slower leagues with less talent and not get any better...or we could do what we did--look out for our kids and move them around to get the best coaching and development and not rely on one coach or hierarchy to be the authority on whether the kid has talent. My kid is one of three kids from his group way back in ASA that is going onto play D1 next year. The vast majority fizzled out or quit.

Have your kid seen by many different people that can give unbiased opinions on what they need---this is not in a tryout situation, btw. And don't lose sight on 'the team', but always look each year: what has my kid learned, has he/she gotten better, are they being challenged, are they getting minutes, is the speed of league play fast(older groups). But most of all--let the kid decide on their own how much work they want to do and where they want to go. Fun with friends, hs team or serious commitment.

But waiting around to hopefully magically 'break through' over the years...not enough time and too deep of teams. You are just paying to support everyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:received 2015 B Arlington offer for Silver which is the lowest team and have DCSC offer for Red which is 2nd team. Thanks for the advice as DCSC is freely letting me delay my decision. I'm torn as to which one to take.

Can you handle the commute to DCSC practices? If so, much clearer path there to #1 team at a young age if that is your goal. The practices may be more competitive (development). It is a good club. However, depending on the depth of the 2015B group at Arlington and DC's level, the Arlington Silver team could be a good, competitive environment for development.

Arlington tends to lock in players to tiers at very young ages and stick to it. Part of it is that there are just so many players trying out at a young age (hard to get a handle on it). Plus, they get a lot of new players externally and at Arlington the tie-breaker goes to external players for placement onto higher teams. Even if your DC develops, you will have a hard road getting them advanced to higher tier teams, but not impossible. Ironically, going to DCSC at a young age may put you into better position for placement on a higher Arlington team down the road (again, if that is your goal).

I have no idea how to tell if the 2nd DC team is any good compared to the last Arlington team but do know of a few players who were moved up from Gold & Black onto Red & white... Don't have a clue as to what is better at this point. Don't want to burn the Arlington bridge

Good luck getting past Red if you are at pre-academy/academy team and you are not one of the coaches golden children. Arlington wants you to “trust the system” for years but then hauls in a majority of outside players when it really counts.

That’s all you need to know about the program.

This isn't exclusive to Arlington. You need to prove that you are substantially better than multiple current top team players in order to be promoted. Other clubs also have this philosophy. There are usually only one or two who break through over the years. Yes, while it's not necessarily fair, that's how the system works. Your options are to try out at other clubs. If your kid is not offered top team there either, then maybe it's time to look within and accept there's something not clicking. Will also say that a good portion of US soccer coaches couldn't identify talent in front of them because they are interested in kickball style winning. Among Arlington's perceived faults, this is not one.

Its complete BS. My kids left after years of the crap. Ended up on MLSNext and different ECNL team. Senior is going to play D1 next year. We could have just stayed for years getting 'looked over' in slower leagues with less talent and not get any better...or we could do what we did--look out for our kids and move them around to get the best coaching and development and not rely on one coach or hierarchy to be the authority on whether the kid has talent. My kid is one of three kids from his group way back in ASA that is going onto play D1 next year. The vast majority fizzled out or quit.

Have your kid seen by many different people that can give unbiased opinions on what they need---this is not in a tryout situation, btw. And don't lose sight on 'the team', but always look each year: what has my kid learned, has he/she gotten better, are they being challenged, are they getting minutes, is the speed of league play fast(older groups). But most of all--let the kid decide on their own how much work they want to do and where they want to go. Fun with friends, hs team or serious commitment.

But waiting around to hopefully magically 'break through' over the years...not enough time and too deep of teams. You are just paying to support everyone else.

We know of multiple current players in younger age groups who got moved down to make room for outside players who are CLEARLY not as good. While we are not completely new to ASA travel, we are not familiar with the older age groups.

Are you saying this is what we can expect if we stay with ASA? It makes sense to bring in outside players who are better—but multiple WORSE ones? How does that make any sense?

[Anonymous]

This is every club if you want to move up move clubs. It’s like switching jobs to get more money