Poor teaching skills

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dear teachers, in case you didn't know, students talk amongst themselves. So when the highest grade in an non-honors class is a B- and majority of the class are Cs and Ds, maybe question if there is anything wrong with the way you teach.

I'm a teacher and I agree. If it's honors, OK, they signed up for something demanding. But if it's not, then there is something wrong if the average grade isn't at least in the low B's, high C's.

My child has a language-based learning disability, so she signed up for a regular English class this year (she does not receive IEP service hours during Engliah, but is instead monitored through her Strats class).

She tells me all the time how bad she feels for the teacher of that class. From what she can tell, at least 2/3 of the class are English learners, and she suspects that almost everyone else in the class has an IEP. She said at least 10%-20% of the class is absent each day, and the teacher has to give at least 20 reminders every day to make students close games on their computers or phones.

On a regular basis, she hears the other kids in the class say things such as:
"I don't do writing."
"I don't do projects."
"I'm not reading that book, story, poem, etc."
"I don't care if I fail."

How could grades possibly be a B average in an ENGLISH class if there are students who refuse to read, write, or do projects?

How could grades possibly be a B average if almost everyone in the class is learning English or has an IEP ?

How could grades possibly be a B average if 10%-20% of the class misses the class every day?

If my daughter's observations are correct, I feel bad for the teacher too. How discouraging to teach a class where the students refuse to engage. How do you teach kids ENGLISH if they refuse to read or write?

By the way, my son had this same English teacher two years ago, and she was a wonderful teacher. My son consistently reports that this teacher was one of the two best teachers he has had through all of school. He was also in a standard English class but his class was more typical than the one my daughter seems to be in this year.

IEP's and ESOL status don't lower grades. Grades in those cases are based on progress and meeting goals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dear teachers, in case you didn't know, students talk amongst themselves. So when the highest grade in an non-honors class is a B- and majority of the class are Cs and Ds, maybe question if there is anything wrong with the way you teach.

I'm a teacher and I agree. If it's honors, OK, they signed up for something demanding. But if it's not, then there is something wrong if the average grade isn't at least in the low B's, high C's.

My child has a language-based learning disability, so she signed up for a regular English class this year (she does not receive IEP service hours during Engliah, but is instead monitored through her Strats class).

She tells me all the time how bad she feels for the teacher of that class. From what she can tell, at least 2/3 of the class are English learners, and she suspects that almost everyone else in the class has an IEP. She said at least 10%-20% of the class is absent each day, and the teacher has to give at least 20 reminders every day to make students close games on their computers or phones.

On a regular basis, she hears the other kids in the class say things such as:
"I don't do writing."
"I don't do projects."
"I'm not reading that book, story, poem, etc."
"I don't care if I fail."

How could grades possibly be a B average in an ENGLISH class if there are students who refuse to read, write, or do projects?

How could grades possibly be a B average if almost everyone in the class is learning English or has an IEP ?

How could grades possibly be a B average if 10%-20% of the class misses the class every day?

If my daughter's observations are correct, I feel bad for the teacher too. How discouraging to teach a class where the students refuse to engage. How do you teach kids ENGLISH if they refuse to read or write?

By the way, my son had this same English teacher two years ago, and she was a wonderful teacher. My son consistently reports that this teacher was one of the two best teachers he has had through all of school. He was also in a standard English class but his class was more typical than the one my daughter seems to be in this year.

IEP's and ESOL status don't lower grades. Grades in those cases are based on progress and meeting goals.

If I have an ESL or IEP student in class, their grades are based on their test scores…not the progress they’ve made. I don’t give A or Bs in Algebra based on them making progress in their goals, it’s on their latest test. They can show growth and still get a D.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

She probably IS a great teacher which is why they have her a high needs class like this. The better the teacher you are, the harder the classes they give you because they know you can handle it. Parents think the good teachers are in the honors/AP classes which could not be more wrong. That’s where they stick the men who can’t do anything besides lecture and give notes because they assume the kids will be fine either way.

Why did you gender your comment?

-Male teacher

Because very few male teachers I’ve met or worked with have actually been good at teaching. They don’t know anything about scaffolding, avoid coteaching, and show weaponized incompetence when given lower grade level and/or higher needs classes until admin finally says “oh he can’t work with anyone but the seniors / the honors kids / the electives.” The heaviest lifting and labor in schools is generally put on women.

You forgot the part where the male teacher goes on to become a principal, then moves into central administration and ends up running the district.

True true . The male history teacher who taught for 4 years to principal pipeline is strong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dear teachers, in case you didn't know, students talk amongst themselves. So when the highest grade in an non-honors class is a B- and majority of the class are Cs and Ds, maybe question if there is anything wrong with the way you teach.

I'm a teacher and I agree. If it's honors, OK, they signed up for something demanding. But if it's not, then there is something wrong if the average grade isn't at least in the low B's, high C's.

My child has a language-based learning disability, so she signed up for a regular English class this year (she does not receive IEP service hours during Engliah, but is instead monitored through her Strats class).

She tells me all the time how bad she feels for the teacher of that class. From what she can tell, at least 2/3 of the class are English learners, and she suspects that almost everyone else in the class has an IEP. She said at least 10%-20% of the class is absent each day, and the teacher has to give at least 20 reminders every day to make students close games on their computers or phones.

On a regular basis, she hears the other kids in the class say things such as:
"I don't do writing."
"I don't do projects."
"I'm not reading that book, story, poem, etc."
"I don't care if I fail."

How could grades possibly be a B average in an ENGLISH class if there are students who refuse to read, write, or do projects?

How could grades possibly be a B average if almost everyone in the class is learning English or has an IEP ?

How could grades possibly be a B average if 10%-20% of the class misses the class every day?

If my daughter's observations are correct, I feel bad for the teacher too. How discouraging to teach a class where the students refuse to engage. How do you teach kids ENGLISH if they refuse to read or write?

By the way, my son had this same English teacher two years ago, and she was a wonderful teacher. My son consistently reports that this teacher was one of the two best teachers he has had through all of school. He was also in a standard English class but his class was more typical than the one my daughter seems to be in this year.

IEP's and ESOL status don't lower grades. Grades in those cases are based on progress and meeting goals.

My kid's grades are based on test and writing grades, not on progress. She's in a general education class, so she is assessed the same way every other general education student is. She has accommodations, but not a modified curriculum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

She probably IS a great teacher which is why they have her a high needs class like this. The better the teacher you are, the harder the classes they give you because they know you can handle it. Parents think the good teachers are in the honors/AP classes which could not be more wrong. That’s where they stick the men who can’t do anything besides lecture and give notes because they assume the kids will be fine either way.

Why did you gender your comment?

-Male teacher

Because very few male teachers I’ve met or worked with have actually been good at teaching. They don’t know anything about scaffolding, avoid coteaching, and show weaponized incompetence when given lower grade level and/or higher needs classes until admin finally says “oh he can’t work with anyone but the seniors / the honors kids / the electives.” The heaviest lifting and labor in schools is generally put on women.

+1 I completely agree with you. My DS had a male 6th grade teacher who was totally incompetent. It was one of the worst years ever. However, the kids all liked the teacher because it was such a free for all and they could get away with just about anything in class.

+1 The 6th grade male teachers are disorganized, do not even decorate their walls, don’t have organized bookshelves, and teach poorly off of Google slides. The female 6th grade teacher is the most competent and organized. Her bookshelves are all labeled, her room is decorated, she responds to email timely and writes weekly announcements, and she is highly organized.

This sounds like our experience as well. Maybe it’s the same school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

She probably IS a great teacher which is why they have her a high needs class like this. The better the teacher you are, the harder the classes they give you because they know you can handle it. Parents think the good teachers are in the honors/AP classes which could not be more wrong. That’s where they stick the men who can’t do anything besides lecture and give notes because they assume the kids will be fine either way.

Why did you gender your comment?

-Male teacher

Because very few male teachers I’ve met or worked with have actually been good at teaching. They don’t know anything about scaffolding, avoid coteaching, and show weaponized incompetence when given lower grade level and/or higher needs classes until admin finally says “oh he can’t work with anyone but the seniors / the honors kids / the electives.” The heaviest lifting and labor in schools is generally put on women.

You forgot the part where the male teacher goes on to become a principal, then moves into central administration and ends up running the district.

+1 the males are revered at the schools and are usually upper grade teachers. They become like favorite pets to the admin. Some are even fast tracked on to becoming AP/Principal even though they suck at teaching. It is sickening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

She probably IS a great teacher which is why they have her a high needs class like this. The better the teacher you are, the harder the classes they give you because they know you can handle it. Parents think the good teachers are in the honors/AP classes which could not be more wrong. That’s where they stick the men who can’t do anything besides lecture and give notes because they assume the kids will be fine either way.

Why did you gender your comment?

-Male teacher

Because very few male teachers I’ve met or worked with have actually been good at teaching. They don’t know anything about scaffolding, avoid coteaching, and show weaponized incompetence when given lower grade level and/or higher needs classes until admin finally says “oh he can’t work with anyone but the seniors / the honors kids / the electives.” The heaviest lifting and labor in schools is generally put on women.

+1 I completely agree with you. My DS had a male 6th grade teacher who was totally incompetent. It was one of the worst years ever. However, the kids all liked the teacher because it was such a free for all and they could get away with just about anything in class.

+1 The 6th grade male teachers are disorganized, do not even decorate their walls, don’t have organized bookshelves, and teach poorly off of Google slides. The female 6th grade teacher is the most competent and organized. Her bookshelves are all labeled, her room is decorated, she responds to email timely and writes weekly announcements, and she is highly organized.

Female secondary teacher here- I’m not into decorating and my bookshelves aren’t labeled. If this is how you are judging my teaching then judge away. Year after year I tell students they are welcome to decorate in the homeroom/remediation block if they have nothing to do. Most years they don’t and my walls are blank. Really, I don’t care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

She probably IS a great teacher which is why they have her a high needs class like this. The better the teacher you are, the harder the classes they give you because they know you can handle it. Parents think the good teachers are in the honors/AP classes which could not be more wrong. That’s where they stick the men who can’t do anything besides lecture and give notes because they assume the kids will be fine either way.

Why did you gender your comment?

-Male teacher

Because very few male teachers I’ve met or worked with have actually been good at teaching. They don’t know anything about scaffolding, avoid coteaching, and show weaponized incompetence when given lower grade level and/or higher needs classes until admin finally says “oh he can’t work with anyone but the seniors / the honors kids / the electives.” The heaviest lifting and labor in schools is generally put on women.

You forgot the part where the male teacher goes on to become a principal, then moves into central administration and ends up running the district.

True true . The male history teacher who taught for 4 years to principal pipeline is strong.

Don’t forget, it’s a choice. Many female teachers don’t want that. After 25 years I make more and work fewer days and hours than the young APs who did this. I don’t want to work summers and evenings. Being a principal is awful and is only worse if you are the main principal. The salaries are public. They will eventually make more but it comes with nights, weekends, summers, stress and no job security if you need to take the fall for something stupid that happened at your school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

She probably IS a great teacher which is why they have her a high needs class like this. The better the teacher you are, the harder the classes they give you because they know you can handle it. Parents think the good teachers are in the honors/AP classes which could not be more wrong. That’s where they stick the men who can’t do anything besides lecture and give notes because they assume the kids will be fine either way.

Why did you gender your comment?

-Male teacher

+1
That stood out to me too.

Male ES Teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

She probably IS a great teacher which is why they have her a high needs class like this. The better the teacher you are, the harder the classes they give you because they know you can handle it. Parents think the good teachers are in the honors/AP classes which could not be more wrong. That’s where they stick the men who can’t do anything besides lecture and give notes because they assume the kids will be fine either way.

Why did you gender your comment?

-Male teacher

Because very few male teachers I’ve met or worked with have actually been good at teaching. They don’t know anything about scaffolding, avoid coteaching, and show weaponized incompetence when given lower grade level and/or higher needs classes until admin finally says “oh he can’t work with anyone but the seniors / the honors kids / the electives.” The heaviest lifting and labor in schools is generally put on women.

My 6th grader currently has an excellent male teacher who has scaffolded them in his subject very well. The female teacher who teaches the other blocks (class moves between two teachers) tries to manage the class by yelling at the kids and blames them for her own mistakes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

She probably IS a great teacher which is why they have her a high needs class like this. The better the teacher you are, the harder the classes they give you because they know you can handle it. Parents think the good teachers are in the honors/AP classes which could not be more wrong. That’s where they stick the men who can’t do anything besides lecture and give notes because they assume the kids will be fine either way.

Why did you gender your comment?

-Male teacher

+1
That stood out to me too.

Male ES Teacher

+1

This really took an ugly turn. Another Male ES teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

She probably IS a great teacher which is why they have her a high needs class like this. The better the teacher you are, the harder the classes they give you because they know you can handle it. Parents think the good teachers are in the honors/AP classes which could not be more wrong. That’s where they stick the men who can’t do anything besides lecture and give notes because they assume the kids will be fine either way.

Why did you gender your comment?

-Male teacher

+1
That stood out to me too.

Male ES Teacher

+1

Everything about teachers on DC Mum is pretty ugly.

This really took an ugly turn. Another Male ES teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

She probably IS a great teacher which is why they have her a high needs class like this. The better the teacher you are, the harder the classes they give you because they know you can handle it. Parents think the good teachers are in the honors/AP classes which could not be more wrong. That’s where they stick the men who can’t do anything besides lecture and give notes because they assume the kids will be fine either way.

Why did you gender your comment?

-Male teacher

+1
That stood out to me too.

Male ES Teacher

+1

This really took an ugly turn. Another Male ES teacher.

Wahhhh.

[Anonymous]

As always, since Momforum trolls know best, you’re all welcome to become teachers and show everyone how to do it properly, since teaching “the right way” is so easy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

She probably IS a great teacher which is why they have her a high needs class like this. The better the teacher you are, the harder the classes they give you because they know you can handle it. Parents think the good teachers are in the honors/AP classes which could not be more wrong. That’s where they stick the men who can’t do anything besides lecture and give notes because they assume the kids will be fine either way.

Why did you gender your comment?

-Male teacher

Because very few male teachers I’ve met or worked with have actually been good at teaching. They don’t know anything about scaffolding, avoid coteaching, and show weaponized incompetence when given lower grade level and/or higher needs classes until admin finally says “oh he can’t work with anyone but the seniors / the honors kids / the electives.” The heaviest lifting and labor in schools is generally put on women.

+1 I completely agree with you. My DS had a male 6th grade teacher who was totally incompetent. It was one of the worst years ever. However, the kids all liked the teacher because it was such a free for all and they could get away with just about anything in class.

+1 The 6th grade male teachers are disorganized, do not even decorate their walls, don’t have organized bookshelves, and teach poorly off of Google slides. The female 6th grade teacher is the most competent and organized. Her bookshelves are all labeled, her room is decorated, she responds to email timely and writes weekly announcements, and she is highly organized.

This sounds like our experience as well. Maybe it’s the same school

+1