Transplant vs native

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The first three digits of my social are 577

I used to jack candy bars from Rodmans when my mom wasn’t looking.

I would walk to Hellers bakery and buy two donuts and the weekend Post for my Father for $1.55

I fell in love with baseball at Turtle Park and once hit a home run that almost made it to Maryland from the field at 44th and Western.

I moved out to the country for high school so I never stuck around for the post-M. Barry revival. Even today, I still know you don’t let your purse hang loose down past Florida Ave.

But if you say you’re from DC. I’ll ask you quite pointedly; 577 or 578? And if you look at me funny I’ll know you really mean Rockville.

Thanks! With a mom who has 577 and me a 578 I did not know that about ssns.

What does it mean to have a 220 SSN?

220 is Maryland.

https://www.usatrace.com/ssnchart/

I have an SSN that starts with a supposedly Maryland prefix and I am from DC.

Yes the number is where it is processed, so there are lot of DC native SSNs that got processed in MD. I'm a 220 like that born in the 70s

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first three digits of my social are 577

I used to jack candy bars from Rodmans when my mom wasn’t looking.

I would walk to Hellers bakery and buy two donuts and the weekend Post for my Father for $1.55

I fell in love with baseball at Turtle Park and once hit a home run that almost made it to Maryland from the field at 44th and Western.

I moved out to the country for high school so I never stuck around for the post-M. Barry revival. Even today, I still know you don’t let your purse hang loose down past Florida Ave.

But if you say you’re from DC. I’ll ask you quite pointedly; 577 or 578? And if you look at me funny I’ll know you really mean Rockville.

FWIW, your SSN tell depends on when the person was born. I was born in DC, but don’t have 557 or 8.

These DCUM native threads always end up skewing so NW.

So what is your son tell? What does nw have to do with it?

I was born in SE DC, and my SSN doesn’t start with 557 or 558. So PP’s question is not as determinative as she thinks it is.

On a related note, when these “native” threads pop up routinely on DCUM, they tend to focus on a fairly narrow, white NWDC perspective. Nothing wrong with that, just know that it’s only one perspective.

True. Fair point.

So what’s the black perspective?

There’s a dialect. I love the way black Washingtonians say “Maryland.”

Like the wizard, Merlin.
I thought that's why they named it Washington wizards

[Anonymous]

Natives don't sight see as much as transplants.

Transplants don't know who the Flirtations are.

[Anonymous]

I'm from KCMO. The only transplants we would get were people from smaller towns who thought KCMO was a big city. I liked it that way.

I don't ever think it's a great transformation when people from larger cities move to smaller cities. It works okay the other way around. I was in awe of the beautiful architecture and buildings in D.C. when I first moved there. D.C. felt like a step up from KCMO, a bigger city, but not too big.

If I was going to move from KCMO in my 20s, I would have moved to Chicago, the next closest bigger city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first three digits of my social are 577

I used to jack candy bars from Rodmans when my mom wasn’t looking.

I would walk to Hellers bakery and buy two donuts and the weekend Post for my Father for $1.55

I fell in love with baseball at Turtle Park and once hit a home run that almost made it to Maryland from the field at 44th and Western.

I moved out to the country for high school so I never stuck around for the post-M. Barry revival. Even today, I still know you don’t let your purse hang loose down past Florida Ave.

But if you say you’re from DC. I’ll ask you quite pointedly; 577 or 578? And if you look at me funny I’ll know you really mean Rockville.

Thanks! With a mom who has 577 and me a 578 I did not know that about ssns.

What does it mean to have a 220 SSN?

220 is Maryland.

https://www.usatrace.com/ssnchart/

I have an SSN that starts with a supposedly Maryland prefix and I am from DC.

Me too. And my DC born son was given a prefix that seems to be associated with NY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first three digits of my social are 577

I used to jack candy bars from Rodmans when my mom wasn’t looking.

I would walk to Hellers bakery and buy two donuts and the weekend Post for my Father for $1.55

I fell in love with baseball at Turtle Park and once hit a home run that almost made it to Maryland from the field at 44th and Western.

I moved out to the country for high school so I never stuck around for the post-M. Barry revival. Even today, I still know you don’t let your purse hang loose down past Florida Ave.

But if you say you’re from DC. I’ll ask you quite pointedly; 577 or 578? And if you look at me funny I’ll know you really mean Rockville.

Thanks! With a mom who has 577 and me a 578 I did not know that about ssns.

What does it mean to have a 220 SSN?

220 is Maryland.

https://www.usatrace.com/ssnchart/

I have an SSN that starts with a supposedly Maryland prefix and I am from DC.

Me too. And my DC born son was given a prefix that seems to be associated with NY.

So I guess the person who gets smug when someone says they are from DC but don’t know about the supposed DC Native SSN must be feeling pretty stupid right now. Where are they now to argue about why they’re actually right??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does it matter? If you're an adult, and you've lived here long enough to grow up here, then you were native to a sad, provincial city in a period of miserable decline.

Frankly, DC benefited from "transplants" who came from bigger and better cities and, at least pre-pandemic, brough money, energy, and a more cosmopolitan perspective to try to build this place up a little.

We used to say DC was a small town person's idea of what a city ought to be...

I actually laughed out loud - HARD. Transplants generally arrive here from some podunk town in the middle of nowhere and then proceed to lecture natives on how things *should* be done around here. The arrogance is really quite something, and your post is a shining example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The first three digits of my social are 577

I used to jack candy bars from Rodmans when my mom wasn’t looking.

I would walk to Hellers bakery and buy two donuts and the weekend Post for my Father for $1.55

I fell in love with baseball at Turtle Park and once hit a home run that almost made it to Maryland from the field at 44th and Western.

I moved out to the country for high school so I never stuck around for the post-M. Barry revival. Even today, I still know you don’t let your purse hang loose down past Florida Ave.

But if you say you’re from DC. I’ll ask you quite pointedly; 577 or 578? And if you look at me funny I’ll know you really mean Rockville.

578 here! born 1972. I never knew this was a thing though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Locals of a certain age realize DC has a robust black history…and has always been segregated in very obvious ways.

But we grew up with legit diversity in an area known to have a very international citizenry.

We remember when DC was really scary…and then the gentrification was so overt and overwhelming that the city nearly became unrecognizable…and now the crime is ticking up and worrisome because we remember what it was like before.

We call it National Airport.

We sometimes slip and refer to the Bullets. They’ll always be the Redskins and the players that won super bowls will always be our favorites.

We can easily find our tribe through certain references. Did you do cotillion at Visitation? Did you go to Shakey’s for pizza afterwards? Did you sneak into (insert favorite bars/clubs)?

We never refer to any of the suburban malls as Westfield Whatever. There was White Flint (RIP), Montgomery Mall, and Wheaton Plaza (plaza, not mall!). We still call them by these names.

We sometimes refer to CVS as People’s.

We enjoyed the same local news people for decades and were truly sad when they retired or passed away.

We still miss WHFS and the HFStival.

We can hardly recognize the downtown area. It looks so different.

We remember when Georgetown was edgy and cool. We remember when it was sketchy. We know it’s black history. We lament the fact that it now looks like any strip mall in Anytown USA. Boo chains!

We remember when Chinatown was really sketchy.

We remember debating whether it was worth the gas money to schlep to a keg party in the burbs or a field party in Olney/Derwood/Etc back when they still had fields before the McMansions were built.

We aren’t as preppy as our northern counterparts, but we embrace a rather classic/traditional/boring aesthetic.

We have an arrogance/confidence that comes from generations of people who were better educated than most and on top of national and international news/world events. We understand what happens in Washington and why it matters.

We tend to be driven by impact (and power) rather than just money.

We don’t look down on Rehoboth, Bethany, Fenwick, Lewes, and even OCMD. We went to beach week.

Most people who moved here in the 90's know most of your references. So?

There are no other educated areas, or places with accomplished people? Are you really so isolated?

Disagree.

If you arrived as a young adult in the 90s, you don’t remember when DC was sketchy. Georgetown wasn’t sketchy in the 90s lol.

And you didn’t go to cotillion at Visi. Or beach week. Heck, if you tell me where you stayed for beach week, I can probably guess if you went to public or private school, which school, etc.

If you are a catholic Washingtonian from way back, you/your relatives are in a subculture of its own. If you know, you know.

Georgetown had a porn theater in the 90s. That's so sketchy!

And a vacant abandoned factory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:10:25 PP here. By responding this way, I realize I sound like I'm penciling out Black families. Not my intent. I just wanted to highlight the rarity of white District families in the period following the riots of the late 60s.

Black multigenerational Washingtonian families are much more common and those who I've known are not so insular and aloof as the white ones.

I have white family members who moved to DC in the early 60’s who lived in Woodley Park and stayed, but I agree they are rare. Also, I don’t think they consider themselves “DC natives,” even the ones that were born in DC. The still think of themselves as natives of the state their family came from. This is true of most of my friends. People who were born and raised in DC still think of themselves as natives of wherever their parents were from (my kid is like this). I have black friends who are from multigenerational DC families, and they consider themselves to be “DC natives.”

It’s funny, because people they occasionally do polls in Texas, and a substantial portion of the people who’ve lived there for any time will respond that they are “Native Texans.” DC is whatever the inverse of that is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The first three digits of my social are 577

I used to jack candy bars from Rodmans when my mom wasn’t looking.

I would walk to Hellers bakery and buy two donuts and the weekend Post for my Father for $1.55

I fell in love with baseball at Turtle Park and once hit a home run that almost made it to Maryland from the field at 44th and Western.

I moved out to the country for high school so I never stuck around for the post-M. Barry revival. Even today, I still know you don’t let your purse hang loose down past Florida Ave.

But if you say you’re from DC. I’ll ask you quite pointedly; 577 or 578? And if you look at me funny I’ll know you really mean Rockville.

578 here! born 1972. I never knew this was a thing though.

It’s not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first three digits of my social are 577

I used to jack candy bars from Rodmans when my mom wasn’t looking.

I would walk to Hellers bakery and buy two donuts and the weekend Post for my Father for $1.55

I fell in love with baseball at Turtle Park and once hit a home run that almost made it to Maryland from the field at 44th and Western.

I moved out to the country for high school so I never stuck around for the post-M. Barry revival. Even today, I still know you don’t let your purse hang loose down past Florida Ave.

But if you say you’re from DC. I’ll ask you quite pointedly; 577 or 578? And if you look at me funny I’ll know you really mean Rockville.

Thanks! With a mom who has 577 and me a 578 I did not know that about ssns.

What does it mean to have a 220 SSN?

220 is Maryland.

https://www.usatrace.com/ssnchart/

I have an SSN that starts with a supposedly Maryland prefix and I am from DC.

Me too. And my DC born son was given a prefix that seems to be associated with NY.

So I guess the person who gets smug when someone says they are from DC but don’t know about the supposed DC Native SSN must be feeling pretty stupid right now. Where are they now to argue about why they’re actually right??

The geographical SSNs stopped around 10 years ago, that’s probably why PPs son doesn’t have one. It would be a tell for anyone born before that, just not younger natives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first three digits of my social are 577

I used to jack candy bars from Rodmans when my mom wasn’t looking.

I would walk to Hellers bakery and buy two donuts and the weekend Post for my Father for $1.55

I fell in love with baseball at Turtle Park and once hit a home run that almost made it to Maryland from the field at 44th and Western.

I moved out to the country for high school so I never stuck around for the post-M. Barry revival. Even today, I still know you don’t let your purse hang loose down past Florida Ave.

But if you say you’re from DC. I’ll ask you quite pointedly; 577 or 578? And if you look at me funny I’ll know you really mean Rockville.

Thanks! With a mom who has 577 and me a 578 I did not know that about ssns.

What does it mean to have a 220 SSN?

220 is Maryland.

https://www.usatrace.com/ssnchart/

I have an SSN that starts with a supposedly Maryland prefix and I am from DC.

Me too. And my DC born son was given a prefix that seems to be associated with NY.

So I guess the person who gets smug when someone says they are from DC but don’t know about the supposed DC Native SSN must be feeling pretty stupid right now. Where are they now to argue about why they’re actually right??

The geographical SSNs stopped around 10 years ago, that’s probably why PPs son doesn’t have one. It would be a tell for anyone born before that, just not younger natives.

No, there are several of us here saying this doesn't hold true from years ago, either. I was born in DC, but my parents clearly used a MD SS office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This argument always cracks me up. As if being a native is some sort of flex. It just isn’t

Found the transplant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most natives don’t get wrapped around the axle about what makes you a native.

I was born in DC, went to school in DC, and because I lived a stones throw into Maryland some yahoo from Nebraska will mansplain to me that I’m not a DC native.

So, through my life I’ve concluded the only people who “care” as in care enough to correct and dig are the people from somewhere else.

I don’t GAF enough to tell you that if you’re from Grubb you’re not from DC but if you’re from Primrose you’re a native.

It did always seem like Virginians had their own center of gravity and would rarely say “DC” rather say Alexandria or Fairfax - but Marylanders, even from outside the beltway, would say DC. I think it’s about where your center of gravity was growing up and where the nexus of “stuff” was. Virginia has a lot of areas not socially close to DC at all. Whereas a lot of the areas of Maryland never seemed that socially separate from DC . I guess some of it is the land border but socially there seems to be affinity between Maryland and DC (both WOTR and EOTR) and Virginia was always different.

Because the both predate DC by ages.

I was born in Alexandria in 1970, raised in Old Town, and, like you, refuse to cede my native status to some millennial from Ass Blast, Ohio, simply because they think renting an apartment in Columbia Heights for a year makes the more DC than me.