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Anonymous wrote:This claim sounds to be as valid as the poster who was saying that Loudoun County has 200 6th graders in Algebra 1 when the SOL scores show 30 kids in Algebra 1 in Loudoun.

It looks like this poster was assuming this is the same number as algebra 2 in 8th grade.

That's correct. Upto 200 students complete Algebra-2 in 8th grade, of them significant number complete Algebra 1 in 6th and rest majority take summer geometry. Even in Loudoun, URM kids are not aware of this acceleration path, which also needs to be addressed from an equity perspective.

Do you understand that you can look at the SOL page for the state of Virginia and see how many kids took the Algebra 1 SOL in 6th grade, in Loudoun County, and see that the total number was 30. The Algebra 1 SOL is the SOL that all the kids taking the class are most likely to take so they can use it as a verified credit toward graduation.

30 kids took the Algebra 1 SOL in 6th grade for Loudoun County.

There are a good number of kids who will take Geometry the summer of 7th grade in order to take Algebra 2 in 8th grade, but only 30 of the Algebra 2 kids in 8th grade took Algebra 1 in 6th grade.

This is not an attempt to block URM from taking Algebra 1 in 6th grade, it is not readily available to any group.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This claim sounds to be as valid as the poster who was saying that Loudoun County has 200 6th graders in Algebra 1 when the SOL scores show 30 kids in Algebra 1 in Loudoun.

It looks like this poster was assuming this is the same number as algebra 2 in 8th grade.

Unlike in FCPS, loudoun middle school has three grades 6th to 8th, and it's more common for 6th graders to be in Algebra 1.

There were 30 kids taking Algebra 1 in 6th grade in Loudoun County. I understand that Loudoun County is smaller then FCPS but it is still rare for a 6th grader to take Algebra 1 in Loudoun County. I believe Loudon County has 82,000 or so students. Assuming an even class size across 13 grades (K-12), there are 6,307 6th graders. That means 0.005% of the 6th graders are taking Algebra 1.

Algebra 1 in 6th grade is a rare event.

And pointing to the few kids who end up in Calculus or Pre-Calc in 9th grade simply points to the fact that it is a rare event. Those students are probably not well served in any public school, even TJ, because they clearly need more then is offered at the vast majority of the schools in the US.

.5%, not .005%

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This claim sounds to be as valid as the poster who was saying that Loudoun County has 200 6th graders in Algebra 1 when the SOL scores show 30 kids in Algebra 1 in Loudoun.

It looks like this poster was assuming this is the same number as algebra 2 in 8th grade.

That's correct. Upto 200 students complete Algebra-2 in 8th grade, of them significant number complete Algebra 1 in 6th and rest majority take summer geometry. Even in Loudoun, URM kids are not aware of this acceleration path, which also needs to be addressed from an equity perspective.

There is a test to get into prealgebra given in 5th grade. Teachers recommend who should take this test, and parents are sent notification that anyone can opt in to this test. Highest scorers have option to take algebra in 6th. I don't know if this is notified to all parents at every school, but heard that Rosa Lee Carter did so. Even then, the numbers at Stone Hill are not that high.

[Anonymous]

Congratulations! We need to stop judging based on gpa and tests.

Anonymous wrote:DS was accepted - didn't think he would be. No factors and the core GPA was 3.5, Geometry in 8th. Guess his essays were really good.

[Anonymous]

What jobs need differential equations? Docs? Law? Math professor? Rocket scientist?

I have relatively low math background and have the best a career as a developer.

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Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.

stem majors take follow math courses in college. retake only if student got a C or D. Your comment is as ridiculous as suggesting, taking four years of any subject like English, science, etc, in HS would have to be mean tretaking those courses in college?

I was a STEM (electrical engineering) major in college. Those were most of the math classes I took, absent one or two others (placed out of Calc and started with diff eq - no college will place student out of that, they will retake it). There's no reason to take them in high school, other than extreme acceleration and a need to take some sort of math class in high school.

A few minutes of googling will show you that UIUC, NCSU, and ASU are just a few of the institutions which offer departmental challenge exams for math classes like differential equations. Furthermore, the number of institutions that will let you place out of these classes informally greatly outnumbers those with formal programs mentioned in their website.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What jobs need differential equations? Docs? Law? Math professor? Rocket scientist?

I have relatively low math background and have the best a career as a developer.

Base school is the right fit for students like yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations! We need to stop judging based on gpa and tests.

Anonymous wrote:DS was accepted - didn't think he would be. No factors and the core GPA was 3.5, Geometry in 8th. Guess his essays were really good.

nobody needs to be judged based on GPA and tests. unfortunately, college admissions want to know if student is a top performer in the class, or took a lazy route taking low level math courses with a low GPA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This claim sounds to be as valid as the poster who was saying that Loudoun County has 200 6th graders in Algebra 1 when the SOL scores show 30 kids in Algebra 1 in Loudoun.

It looks like this poster was assuming this is the same number as algebra 2 in 8th grade.

That's correct. Upto 200 students complete Algebra-2 in 8th grade, of them significant number complete Algebra 1 in 6th and rest majority take summer geometry. Even in Loudoun, URM kids are not aware of this acceleration path, which also needs to be addressed from an equity perspective.

There is a test to get into prealgebra given in 5th grade. Teachers recommend who should take this test, and parents are sent notification that anyone can opt in to this test. Highest scorers have option to take algebra in 6th. I don't know if this is notified to all parents at every school, but heard that Rosa Lee Carter did so. Even then, the numbers at Stone Hill are not that high.

We are URM family and received no such letter from school system. Lack of Equity in advanced math is what needs to be addressed. I want to see the school system people go to URM students and recommend what highest advanced courses are available for enrollment. Awareness of advanced math options is severely lacking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This claim sounds to be as valid as the poster who was saying that Loudoun County has 200 6th graders in Algebra 1 when the SOL scores show 30 kids in Algebra 1 in Loudoun.

It looks like this poster was assuming this is the same number as algebra 2 in 8th grade.

That's correct. Upto 200 students complete Algebra-2 in 8th grade, of them significant number complete Algebra 1 in 6th and rest majority take summer geometry. Even in Loudoun, URM kids are not aware of this acceleration path, which also needs to be addressed from an equity perspective.

Do you understand that you can look at the SOL page for the state of Virginia and see how many kids took the Algebra 1 SOL in 6th grade, in Loudoun County, and see that the total number was 30. The Algebra 1 SOL is the SOL that all the kids taking the class are most likely to take so they can use it as a verified credit toward graduation.

30 kids took the Algebra 1 SOL in 6th grade for Loudoun County.

There are a good number of kids who will take Geometry the summer of 7th grade in order to take Algebra 2 in 8th grade, but only 30 of the Algebra 2 kids in 8th grade took Algebra 1 in 6th grade.

This is not an attempt to block URM from taking Algebra 1 in 6th grade, it is not readily available to any group.

On one hand there is a respectable student strength of Algebra 1 in 6 grade, but no presence of URMs. Where is equity in advanced math?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This claim sounds to be as valid as the poster who was saying that Loudoun County has 200 6th graders in Algebra 1 when the SOL scores show 30 kids in Algebra 1 in Loudoun.

It looks like this poster was assuming this is the same number as algebra 2 in 8th grade.

That's correct. Upto 200 students complete Algebra-2 in 8th grade, of them significant number complete Algebra 1 in 6th and rest majority take summer geometry. Even in Loudoun, URM kids are not aware of this acceleration path, which also needs to be addressed from an equity perspective.

Do you understand that you can look at the SOL page for the state of Virginia and see how many kids took the Algebra 1 SOL in 6th grade, in Loudoun County, and see that the total number was 30. The Algebra 1 SOL is the SOL that all the kids taking the class are most likely to take so they can use it as a verified credit toward graduation.

30 kids took the Algebra 1 SOL in 6th grade for Loudoun County.

There are a good number of kids who will take Geometry the summer of 7th grade in order to take Algebra 2 in 8th grade, but only 30 of the Algebra 2 kids in 8th grade took Algebra 1 in 6th grade.

This is not an attempt to block URM from taking Algebra 1 in 6th grade, it is not readily available to any group.

whether it is 30 or 40 or 100 does it matter. Students are successfully completing Algebra 2 in 8th grade while demonstrating high proficiency in SOLs. Why cant more of that be encouraged given successful results?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What jobs need differential equations? Docs? Law? Math professor? Rocket scientist?

I have relatively low math background and have the best a career as a developer.

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Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.

stem majors take follow math courses in college. retake only if student got a C or D. Your comment is as ridiculous as suggesting, taking four years of any subject like English, science, etc, in HS would have to be mean tretaking those courses in college?

I was a STEM (electrical engineering) major in college. Those were most of the math classes I took, absent one or two others (placed out of Calc and started with diff eq - no college will place student out of that, they will retake it). There's no reason to take them in high school, other than extreme acceleration and a need to take some sort of math class in high school.

A few minutes of googling will show you that UIUC, NCSU, and ASU are just a few of the institutions which offer departmental challenge exams for math classes like differential equations. Furthermore, the number of institutions that will let you place out of these classes informally greatly outnumbers those with formal programs mentioned in their website.

Engineering, physics, math, and grad school (not professional) in most other STEM subjects. In other words, the types of careers TJ students tend to follow. If your child is confident this isn't in their future, then they would likely do just as well at their base school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What jobs need differential equations? Docs? Law? Math professor? Rocket scientist?

I have relatively low math background and have the best a career as a developer.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.

stem majors take follow math courses in college. retake only if student got a C or D. Your comment is as ridiculous as suggesting, taking four years of any subject like English, science, etc, in HS would have to be mean tretaking those courses in college?

I was a STEM (electrical engineering) major in college. Those were most of the math classes I took, absent one or two others (placed out of Calc and started with diff eq - no college will place student out of that, they will retake it). There's no reason to take them in high school, other than extreme acceleration and a need to take some sort of math class in high school.

A few minutes of googling will show you that UIUC, NCSU, and ASU are just a few of the institutions which offer departmental challenge exams for math classes like differential equations. Furthermore, the number of institutions that will let you place out of these classes informally greatly outnumbers those with formal programs mentioned in their website.

Engineering, physics, math, and grad school (not professional) in most other STEM subjects. In other words, the types of careers TJ students tend to follow. If your child is confident this isn't in their future, then they would likely do just as well at their base school

How about medicine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What jobs need differential equations? Docs? Law? Math professor? Rocket scientist?

I have relatively low math background and have the best a career as a developer.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.

stem majors take follow math courses in college. retake only if student got a C or D. Your comment is as ridiculous as suggesting, taking four years of any subject like English, science, etc, in HS would have to be mean tretaking those courses in college?

I was a STEM (electrical engineering) major in college. Those were most of the math classes I took, absent one or two others (placed out of Calc and started with diff eq - no college will place student out of that, they will retake it). There's no reason to take them in high school, other than extreme acceleration and a need to take some sort of math class in high school.

A few minutes of googling will show you that UIUC, NCSU, and ASU are just a few of the institutions which offer departmental challenge exams for math classes like differential equations. Furthermore, the number of institutions that will let you place out of these classes informally greatly outnumbers those with formal programs mentioned in their website.

Engineering, physics, math, and grad school (not professional) in most other STEM subjects. In other words, the types of careers TJ students tend to follow. If your child is confident this isn't in their future, then they would likely do just as well at their base school

How about medicine?

If someone cannot handle math at that level, I sure as heck does not want them handing out prescriptions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This claim sounds to be as valid as the poster who was saying that Loudoun County has 200 6th graders in Algebra 1 when the SOL scores show 30 kids in Algebra 1 in Loudoun.

It looks like this poster was assuming this is the same number as algebra 2 in 8th grade.

That's correct. Upto 200 students complete Algebra-2 in 8th grade, of them significant number complete Algebra 1 in 6th and rest majority take summer geometry. Even in Loudoun, URM kids are not aware of this acceleration path, which also needs to be addressed from an equity perspective.

Do you understand that you can look at the SOL page for the state of Virginia and see how many kids took the Algebra 1 SOL in 6th grade, in Loudoun County, and see that the total number was 30. The Algebra 1 SOL is the SOL that all the kids taking the class are most likely to take so they can use it as a verified credit toward graduation.

30 kids took the Algebra 1 SOL in 6th grade for Loudoun County.

There are a good number of kids who will take Geometry the summer of 7th grade in order to take Algebra 2 in 8th grade, but only 30 of the Algebra 2 kids in 8th grade took Algebra 1 in 6th grade.

This is not an attempt to block URM from taking Algebra 1 in 6th grade, it is not readily available to any group.

On one hand there is a respectable student strength of Algebra 1 in 6 grade, but no presence of URMs. Where is equity in advanced math?

Equity is in giving students what they need, not materials they aren't ready for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What jobs need differential equations? Docs? Law? Math professor? Rocket scientist?

I have relatively low math background and have the best a career as a developer.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.

stem majors take follow math courses in college. retake only if student got a C or D. Your comment is as ridiculous as suggesting, taking four years of any subject like English, science, etc, in HS would have to be mean tretaking those courses in college?

I was a STEM (electrical engineering) major in college. Those were most of the math classes I took, absent one or two others (placed out of Calc and started with diff eq - no college will place student out of that, they will retake it). There's no reason to take them in high school, other than extreme acceleration and a need to take some sort of math class in high school.

A few minutes of googling will show you that UIUC, NCSU, and ASU are just a few of the institutions which offer departmental challenge exams for math classes like differential equations. Furthermore, the number of institutions that will let you place out of these classes informally greatly outnumbers those with formal programs mentioned in their website.

Engineering, physics, math, and grad school (not professional) in most other STEM subjects. In other words, the types of careers TJ students tend to follow. If your child is confident this isn't in their future, then they would likely do just as well at their base school

How about medicine?

If someone cannot handle math at that level, I sure as heck does not want them handing out prescriptions.

No, is it a good school for kids that want to go into something less IT related?