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Anonymous wrote:What jobs need differential equations? Docs? Law? Math professor? Rocket scientist?

I have relatively low math background and have the best a career as a developer.

Base school is the right fit for students like yourself.

DP and TJ alumna here. I'm a developer like the PP and I basically use math through algebra 1 in my every day. The dirty secret about most STEM careers is that the advanced math is part of the gatekeeping of the college majors, not actually used in the field. This is especially true for Computer Science, where you really only need the advanced math for things like understanding the key concepts behind large language models.

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Anonymous wrote:What jobs need differential equations? Docs? Law? Math professor? Rocket scientist?

I have relatively low math background and have the best a career as a developer.

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Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.

stem majors take follow math courses in college. retake only if student got a C or D. Your comment is as ridiculous as suggesting, taking four years of any subject like English, science, etc, in HS would have to be mean tretaking those courses in college?

I was a STEM (electrical engineering) major in college. Those were most of the math classes I took, absent one or two others (placed out of Calc and started with diff eq - no college will place student out of that, they will retake it). There's no reason to take them in high school, other than extreme acceleration and a need to take some sort of math class in high school.

A few minutes of googling will show you that UIUC, NCSU, and ASU are just a few of the institutions which offer departmental challenge exams for math classes like differential equations. Furthermore, the number of institutions that will let you place out of these classes informally greatly outnumbers those with formal programs mentioned in their website.

Engineering, physics, math, and grad school (not professional) in most other STEM subjects. In other words, the types of careers TJ students tend to follow. If your child is confident this isn't in their future, then they would likely do just as well at their base school

How about medicine?

If a biology-oriented TJ applicant had a great letter of recommendation from their middle school science teacher talking about their passion and aptitude, a high score on the science section of ACT Aspire, some bio based award (science olympiad has some biology events, some kids take USABO in middle school, etc.), a biology based problem solving essay, and some statement of what the kid hopes to accomplish at TJ, then it doesn't matter if the kid is less accomplished in math. It's a shame that none of this is included or considered in the application packet.

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Anonymous wrote:This claim sounds to be as valid as the poster who was saying that Loudoun County has 200 6th graders in Algebra 1 when the SOL scores show 30 kids in Algebra 1 in Loudoun.

It looks like this poster was assuming this is the same number as algebra 2 in 8th grade.

That's correct. Upto 200 students complete Algebra-2 in 8th grade, of them significant number complete Algebra 1 in 6th and rest majority take summer geometry. Even in Loudoun, URM kids are not aware of this acceleration path, which also needs to be addressed from an equity perspective.

There is a test to get into prealgebra given in 5th grade. Teachers recommend who should take this test, and parents are sent notification that anyone can opt in to this test. Highest scorers have option to take algebra in 6th. I don't know if this is notified to all parents at every school, but heard that Rosa Lee Carter did so. Even then, the numbers at Stone Hill are not that high.

We are URM family and received no such letter from school system. Lack of Equity in advanced math is what needs to be addressed. I want to see the school system people go to URM students and recommend what highest advanced courses are available for enrollment. Awareness of advanced math options is severely lacking.

This is what happens in Loudoun.

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Anonymous wrote:This claim sounds to be as valid as the poster who was saying that Loudoun County has 200 6th graders in Algebra 1 when the SOL scores show 30 kids in Algebra 1 in Loudoun.

It looks like this poster was assuming this is the same number as algebra 2 in 8th grade.

That's correct. Upto 200 students complete Algebra-2 in 8th grade, of them significant number complete Algebra 1 in 6th and rest majority take summer geometry. Even in Loudoun, URM kids are not aware of this acceleration path, which also needs to be addressed from an equity perspective.

Do you understand that you can look at the SOL page for the state of Virginia and see how many kids took the Algebra 1 SOL in 6th grade, in Loudoun County, and see that the total number was 30. The Algebra 1 SOL is the SOL that all the kids taking the class are most likely to take so they can use it as a verified credit toward graduation.

30 kids took the Algebra 1 SOL in 6th grade for Loudoun County.

There are a good number of kids who will take Geometry the summer of 7th grade in order to take Algebra 2 in 8th grade, but only 30 of the Algebra 2 kids in 8th grade took Algebra 1 in 6th grade.

This is not an attempt to block URM from taking Algebra 1 in 6th grade, it is not readily available to any group.

whether it is 30 or 40 or 100 does it matter. Students are successfully completing Algebra 2 in 8th grade while demonstrating high proficiency in SOLs. Why cant more of that be encouraged given successful results?

Fairfax could maybe do a little more, but 6th grade as part of elementary complicates things. In Loudoun. what is needed is transportation from middle to high school, which is fewer schools. and also more students per school because it is not just algebra 2 students but some other subjects as well.

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Anonymous wrote:This claim sounds to be as valid as the poster who was saying that Loudoun County has 200 6th graders in Algebra 1 when the SOL scores show 30 kids in Algebra 1 in Loudoun.

It looks like this poster was assuming this is the same number as algebra 2 in 8th grade.

That's correct. Upto 200 students complete Algebra-2 in 8th grade, of them significant number complete Algebra 1 in 6th and rest majority take summer geometry. Even in Loudoun, URM kids are not aware of this acceleration path, which also needs to be addressed from an equity perspective.

Do you understand that you can look at the SOL page for the state of Virginia and see how many kids took the Algebra 1 SOL in 6th grade, in Loudoun County, and see that the total number was 30. The Algebra 1 SOL is the SOL that all the kids taking the class are most likely to take so they can use it as a verified credit toward graduation.

30 kids took the Algebra 1 SOL in 6th grade for Loudoun County.

There are a good number of kids who will take Geometry the summer of 7th grade in order to take Algebra 2 in 8th grade, but only 30 of the Algebra 2 kids in 8th grade took Algebra 1 in 6th grade.

This is not an attempt to block URM from taking Algebra 1 in 6th grade, it is not readily available to any group.

On one hand there is a respectable student strength of Algebra 1 in 6 grade, but no presence of URMs. Where is equity in advanced math?

How do you know there isn't? Do you know all 40 students in Fairfax?

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Anonymous wrote:What jobs need differential equations? Docs? Law? Math professor? Rocket scientist?

I have relatively low math background and have the best a career as a developer.

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Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.

stem majors take follow math courses in college. retake only if student got a C or D. Your comment is as ridiculous as suggesting, taking four years of any subject like English, science, etc, in HS would have to be mean tretaking those courses in college?

I was a STEM (electrical engineering) major in college. Those were most of the math classes I took, absent one or two others (placed out of Calc and started with diff eq - no college will place student out of that, they will retake it). There's no reason to take them in high school, other than extreme acceleration and a need to take some sort of math class in high school.

A few minutes of googling will show you that UIUC, NCSU, and ASU are just a few of the institutions which offer departmental challenge exams for math classes like differential equations. Furthermore, the number of institutions that will let you place out of these classes informally greatly outnumbers those with formal programs mentioned in their website.

Engineering, physics, math, and grad school (not professional) in most other STEM subjects. In other words, the types of careers TJ students tend to follow. If your child is confident this isn't in their future, then they would likely do just as well at their base school

How about medicine?

If a biology-oriented TJ applicant had a great letter of recommendation from their middle school science teacher talking about their passion and aptitude, a high score on the science section of ACT Aspire, some bio based award (science olympiad has some biology events, some kids take USABO in middle school, etc.), a biology based problem solving essay, and some statement of what the kid hopes to accomplish at TJ, then it doesn't matter if the kid is less accomplished in math. It's a shame that none of this is included or considered in the application packet.

My child got in and has no issues with math or the TJ workload. They are a great student in all courses. Just not passionate about math. I was checking about how much additional benefit there is for a student interested in medicine attending.

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20+ (including my son) accepted from Frost. A few surprises that got accepted and few surprises that didn't. It honestly seems a bit random.

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Anonymous wrote:What jobs need differential equations? Docs? Law? Math professor? Rocket scientist?

I have relatively low math background and have the best a career as a developer.

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Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.

stem majors take follow math courses in college. retake only if student got a C or D. Your comment is as ridiculous as suggesting, taking four years of any subject like English, science, etc, in HS would have to be mean tretaking those courses in college?

I was a STEM (electrical engineering) major in college. Those were most of the math classes I took, absent one or two others (placed out of Calc and started with diff eq - no college will place student out of that, they will retake it). There's no reason to take them in high school, other than extreme acceleration and a need to take some sort of math class in high school.

A few minutes of googling will show you that UIUC, NCSU, and ASU are just a few of the institutions which offer departmental challenge exams for math classes like differential equations. Furthermore, the number of institutions that will let you place out of these classes informally greatly outnumbers those with formal programs mentioned in their website.

Engineering, physics, math, and grad school (not professional) in most other STEM subjects. In other words, the types of careers TJ students tend to follow. If your child is confident this isn't in their future, then they would likely do just as well at their base school

How about medicine?

If a biology-oriented TJ applicant had a great letter of recommendation from their middle school science teacher talking about their passion and aptitude, a high score on the science section of ACT Aspire, some bio based award (science olympiad has some biology events, some kids take USABO in middle school, etc.), a biology based problem solving essay, and some statement of what the kid hopes to accomplish at TJ, then it doesn't matter if the kid is less accomplished in math. It's a shame that none of this is included or considered in the application packet.

My child got in and has no issues with math or the TJ workload. They are a great student in all courses. Just not passionate about math. I was checking about how much additional benefit there is for a student interested in medicine attending.

To pursue their desired premed major, my TJ student must take TJ Calc BC as a pre/co req to enroll in TJ Physics C. It's unrealistic to expect entry with a minimal math background and bypass significant calculus-based courses. If a student dislikes math or wishes to avoid calculus-based math, perhaps TJ isn't the best fit for them.

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Anonymous wrote:What jobs need differential equations? Docs? Law? Math professor? Rocket scientist?

I have relatively low math background and have the best a career as a developer.

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Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.

stem majors take follow math courses in college. retake only if student got a C or D. Your comment is as ridiculous as suggesting, taking four years of any subject like English, science, etc, in HS would have to be mean tretaking those courses in college?

I was a STEM (electrical engineering) major in college. Those were most of the math classes I took, absent one or two others (placed out of Calc and started with diff eq - no college will place student out of that, they will retake it). There's no reason to take them in high school, other than extreme acceleration and a need to take some sort of math class in high school.

A few minutes of googling will show you that UIUC, NCSU, and ASU are just a few of the institutions which offer departmental challenge exams for math classes like differential equations. Furthermore, the number of institutions that will let you place out of these classes informally greatly outnumbers those with formal programs mentioned in their website.

Engineering, physics, math, and grad school (not professional) in most other STEM subjects. In other words, the types of careers TJ students tend to follow. If your child is confident this isn't in their future, then they would likely do just as well at their base school

How about medicine?

If a biology-oriented TJ applicant had a great letter of recommendation from their middle school science teacher talking about their passion and aptitude, a high score on the science section of ACT Aspire, some bio based award (science olympiad has some biology events, some kids take USABO in middle school, etc.), a biology based problem solving essay, and some statement of what the kid hopes to accomplish at TJ, then it doesn't matter if the kid is less accomplished in math. It's a shame that none of this is included or considered in the application packet.

My child got in and has no issues with math or the TJ workload. They are a great student in all courses. Just not passionate about math. I was checking about how much additional benefit there is for a student interested in medicine attending.

To pursue their desired premed major, my TJ student must take TJ Calc BC as a pre/co req to enroll in TJ Physics C. It's unrealistic to expect entry with a minimal math background and bypass significant calculus-based courses. If a student dislikes math or wishes to avoid calculus-based math, perhaps TJ isn't the best fit for them.

This just isn’t true. No one needs to have physics C in high school to “fufill their college premed major.” Nope n

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Anonymous wrote:What jobs need differential equations? Docs? Law? Math professor? Rocket scientist?

I have relatively low math background and have the best a career as a developer.

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Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.

stem majors take follow math courses in college. retake only if student got a C or D. Your comment is as ridiculous as suggesting, taking four years of any subject like English, science, etc, in HS would have to be mean tretaking those courses in college?

I was a STEM (electrical engineering) major in college. Those were most of the math classes I took, absent one or two others (placed out of Calc and started with diff eq - no college will place student out of that, they will retake it). There's no reason to take them in high school, other than extreme acceleration and a need to take some sort of math class in high school.

A few minutes of googling will show you that UIUC, NCSU, and ASU are just a few of the institutions which offer departmental challenge exams for math classes like differential equations. Furthermore, the number of institutions that will let you place out of these classes informally greatly outnumbers those with formal programs mentioned in their website.

Engineering, physics, math, and grad school (not professional) in most other STEM subjects. In other words, the types of careers TJ students tend to follow. If your child is confident this isn't in their future, then they would likely do just as well at their base school

How about medicine?

If a biology-oriented TJ applicant had a great letter of recommendation from their middle school science teacher talking about their passion and aptitude, a high score on the science section of ACT Aspire, some bio based award (science olympiad has some biology events, some kids take USABO in middle school, etc.), a biology based problem solving essay, and some statement of what the kid hopes to accomplish at TJ, then it doesn't matter if the kid is less accomplished in math. It's a shame that none of this is included or considered in the application packet.

My child got in and has no issues with math or the TJ workload. They are a great student in all courses. Just not passionate about math. I was checking about how much additional benefit there is for a student interested in medicine attending.

To pursue their desired premed major, my TJ student must take TJ Calc BC as a pre/co req to enroll in TJ Physics C. It's unrealistic to expect entry with a minimal math background and bypass significant calculus-based courses. If a student dislikes math or wishes to avoid calculus-based math, perhaps TJ isn't the best fit for them.

This just isn’t true. No one needs to have physics C in high school to “fufill their college premed major.” Nope n

Not only at TJ, but a significant number of FCPS students at base schools interested in the medical field also opt for calculus-based physics. It appears you're assuming that TJ class admissions are of such low caliber that they avoid taking calculus-based physics. At least the top half of entire TJ class enrolls in highest calculus math.

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DD was accepted and we decided to decline the offer. Anyone else?

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Anonymous wrote:What jobs need differential equations? Docs? Law? Math professor? Rocket scientist?

I have relatively low math background and have the best a career as a developer.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.

stem majors take follow math courses in college. retake only if student got a C or D. Your comment is as ridiculous as suggesting, taking four years of any subject like English, science, etc, in HS would have to be mean tretaking those courses in college?

I was a STEM (electrical engineering) major in college. Those were most of the math classes I took, absent one or two others (placed out of Calc and started with diff eq - no college will place student out of that, they will retake it). There's no reason to take them in high school, other than extreme acceleration and a need to take some sort of math class in high school.

A few minutes of googling will show you that UIUC, NCSU, and ASU are just a few of the institutions which offer departmental challenge exams for math classes like differential equations. Furthermore, the number of institutions that will let you place out of these classes informally greatly outnumbers those with formal programs mentioned in their website.

Engineering, physics, math, and grad school (not professional) in most other STEM subjects. In other words, the types of careers TJ students tend to follow. If your child is confident this isn't in their future, then they would likely do just as well at their base school

How about medicine?

If a biology-oriented TJ applicant had a great letter of recommendation from their middle school science teacher talking about their passion and aptitude, a high score on the science section of ACT Aspire, some bio based award (science olympiad has some biology events, some kids take USABO in middle school, etc.), a biology based problem solving essay, and some statement of what the kid hopes to accomplish at TJ, then it doesn't matter if the kid is less accomplished in math. It's a shame that none of this is included or considered in the application packet.

My child got in and has no issues with math or the TJ workload. They are a great student in all courses. Just not passionate about math. I was checking about how much additional benefit there is for a student interested in medicine attending.

To pursue their desired premed major, my TJ student must take TJ Calc BC as a pre/co req to enroll in TJ Physics C. It's unrealistic to expect entry with a minimal math background and bypass significant calculus-based courses. If a student dislikes math or wishes to avoid calculus-based math, perhaps TJ isn't the best fit for them.

You are obsessed with math. I am looking to find out what TJ can offer my child who is not interested in IT but interested in medicine. Not the other way round. They can take Physics C at the base school.

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They can also take Calculus BC and Multivariable Calculus at the base school as well as statistics. I'm curious what TJ has beyond these requirements that might interest a child interested in science but not IT.

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Anonymous wrote:They can also take Calculus BC and Multivariable Calculus at the base school as well as statistics. I'm curious what TJ has beyond these requirements that might interest a child interested in science but not IT.

They are taught at greater depth, and TJ has courses beyond Multivariable, that top students enroll in. But 8th grade algebra 1 students also have a great time with math at TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:They can also take Calculus BC and Multivariable Calculus at the base school as well as statistics. I'm curious what TJ has beyond these requirements that might interest a child interested in science but not IT.

They are taught at greater depth, and TJ has courses beyond Multivariable, that top students enroll in. But 8th grade algebra 1 students also have a great time with math at TJ.

Yes, math lady we know, but it isn't clear why that is a positive for someone who wants to go into medicine. Anything beyond math that this school offers?