Average SAT Scores for Top Local Catholic Schools

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Anonymous wrote:I just looked at the source posted with the SAT scores and our $45,000 private school has an average SAT score in the 1200s. This school is considered to be one of the top Catholic schools in the DMV that is highly sought after. College matriculations to top 20 schools are around 25% of the student body (vs around 5% in public schools). Sure, your public school might have a higher average SAT, but I am actually much happier with my kid being among others with lower scores because it will make her stand out even more. See how that works?

I'm sure it's easy to stick out in a graduating class of 10 students.

All at the bargain basement price of $180k! See ya at the state college parent weekend!

Why are you so angry about Catholic high schools? How does a group of people sending their kids to a school affiliated with their religion burn you so badly that you are on here mocking the kids SAT scores?

You need to learn the difference between anger and derision.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Percentage of students attending T20 universities at top privates: 20%-30%

Percentage of students attending T20 universities at top MCPS high schools: 5%

Good SAT scores are great, but the quality and prestige of the schools kids get into and attend is even more important. Let's not forget!!

1. those aren't all top privates

2. money, connections, and legacy buys college entrance, and there is more of that in private schools than public. So, that's an apples to orange comparison.

Given the amount of money these private school parents have, I would think the average SAT scores should be higher than the surrounding publics, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

3. You have poor data analysis skills

Oh my. You are really emotionally invested in this. Probably not all that healthy for you, right?

DP. No, they are right. Your response suggests you've got no response except a lame attempt to insult. You lose this one.

The PP isn’t well-informed if they think many families going to the schools costing well under the $60k are rich. How about the the roofer’s family I met at the open house? A number of the schools in the OP list include structured programming for students with LDs. Many of these students are very bright but might not do as well on standardized tests. The HHIs of families in the surrounding publics are some of the highest in the region and even the country.

That’s just a few thoughts about the PP’s points.

The main one remains that one wonders why the PP spends so much time ripping into kids she doesn’t know at schools she’s never been to. Why?

The PP said "more" wealth, not that all families are wealthy. You can't possibly be arguing that the majority of families that send kids to private schools are not wealthier than the majority of families that send kids to pubic schools? Or that SES is not a more salient determinant of things like SAT score than the school the child attends. More family wealth, higher scores.

It looks like the PP is just answering the snobbery. The PP said nothing derogatory about kids anywhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Trust me, no Catholic parent is selecting these schools based upon scores - we never even thought about it. Catholics don’t view our schools like many view the independent schools (ie, college admission stats and or standardized test scores). We go for other reasons and for the most part, many of the parents at Visi or Gonzaga are wealthy/very connected or highly educated. They can go to most any college/university and still get a great job because of the network. They don’t see college like you - a gateway into a different higher class. For example, we are in Chevy Chase. The goal for most of our girls has always been Visi, going generations back. We are not at all interested in the independent schools even if they sent their entire graduating class to Harvard. I know that statement seems extreme but there isn’t really a way to emphasize just how much our families laser focus on the schools at the top of the list and there are many tears and lots of hand wringing if our kid doesn’t get in.

+100 We only looked at Catholic schools for our DD, even though I’m confident she could’ve gotten into any of the T3 schools. (99% HSPT, all A’s in MS, high performer in her club sport, member of an outside orchestra, fluent in several languages because we’ve lived overseas.) We (and she) were only interested in a Catholic foundation in a school that is not hell-bent on wokism. We want her to have a well-rounded education without wasting time on DEI nonsense. Whether the school she’s attending has a high SAT average doesn’t matter to us, what matters is her own score. She’ll take honors and AP courses, and if needed, a SAT prep.

I hope this is satire. If you were a true Christian, a true believe in the message of Jesus, you would never use the term "wokism". Instead, you are arrogant and insufferable. Blessed are the meek, lady.

Jesus does not care about silly, misguided trends like being woke.

Jesus invented woke.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Trust me, no Catholic parent is selecting these schools based upon scores - we never even thought about it. Catholics don’t view our schools like many view the independent schools (ie, college admission stats and or standardized test scores). We go for other reasons and for the most part, many of the parents at Visi or Gonzaga are wealthy/very connected or highly educated. They can go to most any college/university and still get a great job because of the network. They don’t see college like you - a gateway into a different higher class. For example, we are in Chevy Chase. The goal for most of our girls has always been Visi, going generations back. We are not at all interested in the independent schools even if they sent their entire graduating class to Harvard. I know that statement seems extreme but there isn’t really a way to emphasize just how much our families laser focus on the schools at the top of the list and there are many tears and lots of hand wringing if our kid doesn’t get in.

+100 We only looked at Catholic schools for our DD, even though I’m confident she could’ve gotten into any of the T3 schools. (99% HSPT, all A’s in MS, high performer in her club sport, member of an outside orchestra, fluent in several languages because we’ve lived overseas.) We (and she) were only interested in a Catholic foundation in a school that is not hell-bent on wokism. We want her to have a well-rounded education without wasting time on DEI nonsense. Whether the school she’s attending has a high SAT average doesn’t matter to us, what matters is her own score. She’ll take honors and AP courses, and if needed, a SAT prep.

I hope this is satire. If you were a true Christian, a true believe in the message of Jesus, you would never use the term "wokism". Instead, you are arrogant and insufferable. Blessed are the meek, lady.

DP. Why is this term so triggering for you? It’s the new PC. And lots of us what to avoid it.

Triggering is not the appropriate word. I'm just annoyed by faux Christians going on and on about how important the "Catholic" in Catholic schools is to them when all they really care about is their own wealth and status. Anything that challenges their status quo or their privileged status and their belief that they are superior must be avoided, so they mock it. It's just so hypocritical and tiresome.

Not sure what you expect from people who worship a false prophet who sits on a throne.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Percentage of students attending T20 universities at top privates: 20%-30%

Percentage of students attending T20 universities at top MCPS high schools: 5%

Good SAT scores are great, but the quality and prestige of the schools kids get into and attend is even more important. Let's not forget!!

1. those aren't all top privates

2. money, connections, and legacy buys college entrance, and there is more of that in private schools than public. So, that's an apples to orange comparison.

Given the amount of money these private school parents have, I would think the average SAT scores should be higher than the surrounding publics, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

3. You have poor data analysis skills

Oh my. You are really emotionally invested in this. Probably not all that healthy for you, right?

DP. No, they are right. Your response suggests you've got no response except a lame attempt to insult. You lose this one.

The PP isn’t well-informed if they think many families going to the schools costing well under the $60k are rich. How about the the roofer’s family I met at the open house? A number of the schools in the OP list include structured programming for students with LDs. Many of these students are very bright but might not do as well on standardized tests. The HHIs of families in the surrounding publics are some of the highest in the region and even the country.

That’s just a few thoughts about the PP’s points.

The main one remains that one wonders why the PP spends so much time ripping into kids she doesn’t know at schools she’s never been to. Why?

The PP said "more" wealth, not that all families are wealthy. You can't possibly be arguing that the majority of families that send kids to private schools are not wealthier than the majority of families that send kids to pubic schools? Or that SES is not a more salient determinant of things like SAT score than the school the child attends. More family wealth, higher scores.

It looks like the PP is just answering the snobbery. The PP said nothing derogatory about kids anywhere.

Isn’t this thread about specific schools, not publics and privates generally?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Trust me, no Catholic parent is selecting these schools based upon scores - we never even thought about it. Catholics don’t view our schools like many view the independent schools (ie, college admission stats and or standardized test scores). We go for other reasons and for the most part, many of the parents at Visi or Gonzaga are wealthy/very connected or highly educated. They can go to most any college/university and still get a great job because of the network. They don’t see college like you - a gateway into a different higher class. For example, we are in Chevy Chase. The goal for most of our girls has always been Visi, going generations back. We are not at all interested in the independent schools even if they sent their entire graduating class to Harvard. I know that statement seems extreme but there isn’t really a way to emphasize just how much our families laser focus on the schools at the top of the list and there are many tears and lots of hand wringing if our kid doesn’t get in.

+100 We only looked at Catholic schools for our DD, even though I’m confident she could’ve gotten into any of the T3 schools. (99% HSPT, all A’s in MS, high performer in her club sport, member of an outside orchestra, fluent in several languages because we’ve lived overseas.) We (and she) were only interested in a Catholic foundation in a school that is not hell-bent on wokism. We want her to have a well-rounded education without wasting time on DEI nonsense. Whether the school she’s attending has a high SAT average doesn’t matter to us, what matters is her own score. She’ll take honors and AP courses, and if needed, a SAT prep.

Your post has me second-guessing whether it's really a good idea to send my kid to a Catholic school.

Send your kid to whichever school is the best for them. If you/they want an education based on Catholic foundational values, then by all means go to a Catholic school. If these more conservative Catholic values are too much, then there are plenty of public and secular privates you’d be happier at.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trust me, no Catholic parent is selecting these schools based upon scores - we never even thought about it. Catholics don’t view our schools like many view the independent schools (ie, college admission stats and or standardized test scores). We go for other reasons and for the most part, many of the parents at Visi or Gonzaga are wealthy/very connected or highly educated. They can go to most any college/university and still get a great job because of the network. They don’t see college like you - a gateway into a different higher class. For example, we are in Chevy Chase. The goal for most of our girls has always been Visi, going generations back. We are not at all interested in the independent schools even if they sent their entire graduating class to Harvard. I know that statement seems extreme but there isn’t really a way to emphasize just how much our families laser focus on the schools at the top of the list and there are many tears and lots of hand wringing if our kid doesn’t get in.

+100 We only looked at Catholic schools for our DD, even though I’m confident she could’ve gotten into any of the T3 schools. (99% HSPT, all A’s in MS, high performer in her club sport, member of an outside orchestra, fluent in several languages because we’ve lived overseas.) We (and she) were only interested in a Catholic foundation in a school that is not hell-bent on wokism. We want her to have a well-rounded education without wasting time on DEI nonsense. Whether the school she’s attending has a high SAT average doesn’t matter to us, what matters is her own score. She’ll take honors and AP courses, and if needed, a SAT prep.

I hope this is satire. If you were a true Christian, a true believe in the message of Jesus, you would never use the term "wokism". Instead, you are arrogant and insufferable. Blessed are the meek, lady.

Karen, the point is, those of us who are Catholics send our kids to Catholic schools for a good-quality Catholic-based education. We’re being forced-fed with over-the-top wokism and DEI in public and lots of secular privates that it’s nice to have just a normal, traditional education for our kids. I’m grateful that there are many choices of schools in this area, and we all have the freedom to choose what works best for our kids and families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trust me, no Catholic parent is selecting these schools based upon scores - we never even thought about it. Catholics don’t view our schools like many view the independent schools (ie, college admission stats and or standardized test scores). We go for other reasons and for the most part, many of the parents at Visi or Gonzaga are wealthy/very connected or highly educated. They can go to most any college/university and still get a great job because of the network. They don’t see college like you - a gateway into a different higher class. For example, we are in Chevy Chase. The goal for most of our girls has always been Visi, going generations back. We are not at all interested in the independent schools even if they sent their entire graduating class to Harvard. I know that statement seems extreme but there isn’t really a way to emphasize just how much our families laser focus on the schools at the top of the list and there are many tears and lots of hand wringing if our kid doesn’t get in.

+100 We only looked at Catholic schools for our DD, even though I’m confident she could’ve gotten into any of the T3 schools. (99% HSPT, all A’s in MS, high performer in her club sport, member of an outside orchestra, fluent in several languages because we’ve lived overseas.) We (and she) were only interested in a Catholic foundation in a school that is not hell-bent on wokism. We want her to have a well-rounded education without wasting time on DEI nonsense. Whether the school she’s attending has a high SAT average doesn’t matter to us, what matters is her own score. She’ll take honors and AP courses, and if needed, a SAT prep.

I hope this is satire. If you were a true Christian, a true believe in the message of Jesus, you would never use the term "wokism". Instead, you are arrogant and insufferable. Blessed are the meek, lady.

Karen, the point is, those of us who are Catholics send our kids to Catholic schools for a good-quality Catholic-based education. We’re being forced-fed with over-the-top wokism and DEI in public and lots of secular privates that it’s nice to have just a normal, traditional education for our kids. I’m grateful that there are many choices of schools in this area, and we all have the freedom to choose what works best for our kids and families.

Oh how ironic you would call someone a Karen and then go on about your traditional Catholic values. You are being called out for being a hypocrite and you are one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trust me, no Catholic parent is selecting these schools based upon scores - we never even thought about it. Catholics don’t view our schools like many view the independent schools (ie, college admission stats and or standardized test scores). We go for other reasons and for the most part, many of the parents at Visi or Gonzaga are wealthy/very connected or highly educated. They can go to most any college/university and still get a great job because of the network. They don’t see college like you - a gateway into a different higher class. For example, we are in Chevy Chase. The goal for most of our girls has always been Visi, going generations back. We are not at all interested in the independent schools even if they sent their entire graduating class to Harvard. I know that statement seems extreme but there isn’t really a way to emphasize just how much our families laser focus on the schools at the top of the list and there are many tears and lots of hand wringing if our kid doesn’t get in.

+100 We only looked at Catholic schools for our DD, even though I’m confident she could’ve gotten into any of the T3 schools. (99% HSPT, all A’s in MS, high performer in her club sport, member of an outside orchestra, fluent in several languages because we’ve lived overseas.) We (and she) were only interested in a Catholic foundation in a school that is not hell-bent on wokism. We want her to have a well-rounded education without wasting time on DEI nonsense. Whether the school she’s attending has a high SAT average doesn’t matter to us, what matters is her own score. She’ll take honors and AP courses, and if needed, a SAT prep.

I hope this is satire. If you were a true Christian, a true believe in the message of Jesus, you would never use the term "wokism". Instead, you are arrogant and insufferable. Blessed are the meek, lady.

Jesus does not care about silly, misguided trends like being woke.

Jesus was the original woke guy!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trust me, no Catholic parent is selecting these schools based upon scores - we never even thought about it. Catholics don’t view our schools like many view the independent schools (ie, college admission stats and or standardized test scores). We go for other reasons and for the most part, many of the parents at Visi or Gonzaga are wealthy/very connected or highly educated. They can go to most any college/university and still get a great job because of the network. They don’t see college like you - a gateway into a different higher class. For example, we are in Chevy Chase. The goal for most of our girls has always been Visi, going generations back. We are not at all interested in the independent schools even if they sent their entire graduating class to Harvard. I know that statement seems extreme but there isn’t really a way to emphasize just how much our families laser focus on the schools at the top of the list and there are many tears and lots of hand wringing if our kid doesn’t get in.

+100 We only looked at Catholic schools for our DD, even though I’m confident she could’ve gotten into any of the T3 schools. (99% HSPT, all A’s in MS, high performer in her club sport, member of an outside orchestra, fluent in several languages because we’ve lived overseas.) We (and she) were only interested in a Catholic foundation in a school that is not hell-bent on wokism. We want her to have a well-rounded education without wasting time on DEI nonsense. Whether the school she’s attending has a high SAT average doesn’t matter to us, what matters is her own score. She’ll take honors and AP courses, and if needed, a SAT prep.

Your post has me second-guessing whether it's really a good idea to send my kid to a Catholic school.

Send your kid to whichever school is the best for them. If you/they want an education based on Catholic foundational values, then by all means go to a Catholic school. If these more conservative Catholic values are too much, then there are plenty of public and secular privates you’d be happier at.

As others have pointed out, ridiculous bragging about your kids' achievements and throwing around catch-phrases like "DEI nonsense" have absolutely nothing to do with "Catholic foundational values". You sound absolutely insufferable and I'd be embarrassed to share a school community with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trust me, no Catholic parent is selecting these schools based upon scores - we never even thought about it. Catholics don’t view our schools like many view the independent schools (ie, college admission stats and or standardized test scores). We go for other reasons and for the most part, many of the parents at Visi or Gonzaga are wealthy/very connected or highly educated. They can go to most any college/university and still get a great job because of the network. They don’t see college like you - a gateway into a different higher class. For example, we are in Chevy Chase. The goal for most of our girls has always been Visi, going generations back. We are not at all interested in the independent schools even if they sent their entire graduating class to Harvard. I know that statement seems extreme but there isn’t really a way to emphasize just how much our families laser focus on the schools at the top of the list and there are many tears and lots of hand wringing if our kid doesn’t get in.

+100 We only looked at Catholic schools for our DD, even though I’m confident she could’ve gotten into any of the T3 schools. (99% HSPT, all A’s in MS, high performer in her club sport, member of an outside orchestra, fluent in several languages because we’ve lived overseas.) We (and she) were only interested in a Catholic foundation in a school that is not hell-bent on wokism. We want her to have a well-rounded education without wasting time on DEI nonsense. Whether the school she’s attending has a high SAT average doesn’t matter to us, what matters is her own score. She’ll take honors and AP courses, and if needed, a SAT prep.

Your post has me second-guessing whether it's really a good idea to send my kid to a Catholic school.

Send your kid to whichever school is the best for them. If you/they want an education based on Catholic foundational values, then by all means go to a Catholic school. If these more conservative Catholic values are too much, then there are plenty of public and secular privates you’d be happier at.

As others have pointed out, ridiculous bragging about your kids' achievements and throwing around catch-phrases like "DEI nonsense" have absolutely nothing to do with "Catholic foundational values". You sound absolutely insufferable and I'd be embarrassed to share a school community with you.

Not asking you to share a school community with me, and hoping you wouldn’t. It doesn’t sound like Catholic schools are for you if you can’t accept Catholic practices and traditions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just looked at the source posted with the SAT scores and our $45,000 private school has an average SAT score in the 1200s. This school is considered to be one of the top Catholic schools in the DMV that is highly sought after. College matriculations to top 20 schools are around 25% of the student body (vs around 5% in public schools). Sure, your public school might have a higher average SAT, but I am actually much happier with my kid being among others with lower scores because it will make her stand out even more. See how that works?

I'm sure it's easy to stick out in a graduating class of 10 students.

All at the bargain basement price of $180k! See ya at the state college parent weekend!

Why are you so angry about Catholic high schools? How does a group of people sending their kids to a school affiliated with their religion burn you so badly that you are on here mocking the kids SAT scores?

^ This! Honestly the Catholic focus on this board makes me more intrigued to check it out. If everyone’s so fixated about it there’s something there that makes people want to engage. I don’t see this kind of bashing with SSSA or NCS/STA or Trinity

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trust me, no Catholic parent is selecting these schools based upon scores - we never even thought about it. Catholics don’t view our schools like many view the independent schools (ie, college admission stats and or standardized test scores). We go for other reasons and for the most part, many of the parents at Visi or Gonzaga are wealthy/very connected or highly educated. They can go to most any college/university and still get a great job because of the network. They don’t see college like you - a gateway into a different higher class. For example, we are in Chevy Chase. The goal for most of our girls has always been Visi, going generations back. We are not at all interested in the independent schools even if they sent their entire graduating class to Harvard. I know that statement seems extreme but there isn’t really a way to emphasize just how much our families laser focus on the schools at the top of the list and there are many tears and lots of hand wringing if our kid doesn’t get in.

+100 We only looked at Catholic schools for our DD, even though I’m confident she could’ve gotten into any of the T3 schools. (99% HSPT, all A’s in MS, high performer in her club sport, member of an outside orchestra, fluent in several languages because we’ve lived overseas.) We (and she) were only interested in a Catholic foundation in a school that is not hell-bent on wokism. We want her to have a well-rounded education without wasting time on DEI nonsense. Whether the school she’s attending has a high SAT average doesn’t matter to us, what matters is her own score. She’ll take honors and AP courses, and if needed, a SAT prep.

I hope this is satire. If you were a true Christian, a true believe in the message of Jesus, you would never use the term "wokism". Instead, you are arrogant and insufferable. Blessed are the meek, lady.

Karen, the point is, those of us who are Catholics send our kids to Catholic schools for a good-quality Catholic-based education. We’re being forced-fed with over-the-top wokism and DEI in public and lots of secular privates that it’s nice to have just a normal, traditional education for our kids. I’m grateful that there are many choices of schools in this area, and we all have the freedom to choose what works best for our kids and families.

Oh how ironic you would call someone a Karen and then go on about your traditional Catholic values. You are being called out for being a hypocrite and you are one.

+1 oh my.

I've lately realized how little so called Christians really understand what Jesus' message was.

[Anonymous]

Niche data is a joke. It is based on reported scores, not actual scores.

And where is Georgetown Prep in your summary?

And I’m pretty sure that SJC has more National Merit Scholars than Gonzaga.

Catholic Boy School Academic Rankings:

Georgetown Prep
SJC
GZ

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Percentage of students attending T20 universities at top privates: 20%-30%

Percentage of students attending T20 universities at top MCPS high schools: 5%

Good SAT scores are great, but the quality and prestige of the schools kids get into and attend is even more important. Let's not forget!!

1. those aren't all top privates

2. money, connections, and legacy buys college entrance, and there is more of that in private schools than public. So, that's an apples to orange comparison.

Given the amount of money these private school parents have, I would think the average SAT scores should be higher than the surrounding publics, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

3. You have poor data analysis skills

Oh my. You are really emotionally invested in this. Probably not all that healthy for you, right?

I guess that means you can't argue with what I stated. I was responding to the PP. I guess they also are too emotionally invested.

Also, no where in my post does it show that I am emotionally invested in this. OP posted this thread. It showed up on the Recent list. Shrug. Maybe private school parents shouldn't post these kinds of click bait threads, or maybe you should ask Jeff to not put Private school forum in the Recent list.

Ah, was wondering where all of the riff raff was coming from.

Is this what so called good "Catholics" call non catholics?