DMV is not the most prestige-obsessed region

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Anonymous wrote:I was talking to some old college friends who are now in the Bay Area and they’re on another level it seems. Many of them are pushing their kids pretty hard to get Harvard, Stanford, Duke, Columbia, etc. Just goes to show it’s all relative

Troll.

No one outside the DMV area considers Duke in this group. Bay area people don't.

I live in California now and you’re wrong, Duke and Columbia are both very desirable at top high schools here. HPSM are not the only schools people are looking at because they know odds are pretty low they’ll snag one.

Who the hell compares Duke with Columbia, Harvard, Princeton, Stanford? Let's just say many students write off southern schools - no matter how good they are. At best, they are niche schools, such as GeorgiaT, Rice for STEM, Duke for sports, Emory for I don't know what... These schools are a step or two below Columbia, Harvard, Princeton, Stanford...

Not Columbia.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, Michigan above Berkeley. Okay...

Aren’t they essentially ranked the same?

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Anonymous wrote:Midwest is super chill - grew up in a wealthy northern suburb of Chicago and kids are happy with Big 10 schools. Kids thrilled about getting accepted to Northwestern, Michigan, or Wisconsin. Elite or bust is pretty rare.

Well yeah, that's flyover country for ya.

Sounds fabulous.

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It’s different but not that different. People here also grovel over their kids getting into HPSM, Duke, Penn, Columbia, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Having moved to suburban Maryland from Palo Alto, it is tough to compare the two. The biggest difference to me is that people here are more focused on the college name/prestige and people there are more concerned with college as a means to what happens after college. There, it is much more about getting a top tech, consulting, or banking job or getting into a top grad school rather than just going to Stanford or Harvard or Yale. Getting into a great school is the start everyone there wants but that alone doesn't then lower the pressure on the kids (it is like winning an initial playoff game in professional sports; on to the next one, which is even more important). Here, it feels like being admitted and starting at a prestigious college is an end in itself and then the external pressure drops, even for Big 3 or TJ kids. It isn't surprising that you see far more Google, Meta, and Amazon swag in Palo Alto than college shirts (non-Stanford anyway). In DC, I've never seen so many people in their 30s and 40s still advertising where they went to school

Company shirts are free. People in Palo Alto will wear godaddy.com shirts because they are swags.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s different but not that different. People here also grovel over their kids getting into HPSM, Duke, Penn, Columbia, etc.

You again? No one considered Columbia a peer of HYPSM or Duke.

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Columbia is on par with Cornell

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Harvard
Princeton
Yale
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Dartmouth
Cornell

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Princeton
Yale
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Dartmouth
Cornell

Not according to US News or basic common sense, if that is a ranking

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s different but not that different. People here also grovel over their kids getting into HPSM, Duke, Penn, Columbia, etc.

You again? No one considered Columbia a peer of HYPSM or Duke.

LOL, no one on the west coast thinks highly at all of Duke; Columbia is in a different tier (not HYP).

UChicago for that matter is much better school than Duke, academically. There's no comparison.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Princeton
Yale
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Dartmouth
Cornell

Not according to US News or basic common sense, if that is a ranking

US news is worthless. This is a global perception.

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Anonymous wrote:I was talking to some old college friends who are now in the Bay Area and they’re on another level it seems. Many of them are pushing their kids pretty hard to get Harvard, Stanford, Duke, Columbia, etc. Just goes to show it’s all relative

Troll.

No one outside the DMV area considers Duke in this group. Bay area people don't.

Wrong - They have started to pay attention to increase their odds of a T10 admission. Same for Vandy.

HAHA Vandy. Vandy is barely top 20 Sis.

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Anonymous wrote:I was talking to some old college friends who are now in the Bay Area and they’re on another level it seems. Many of them are pushing their kids pretty hard to get Harvard, Stanford, Duke, Columbia, etc. Just goes to show it’s all relative

Troll.

No one outside the DMV area considers Duke in this group. Bay area people don't.

Generally speaking, if someone is dug into the mindset that a school like Duke is a "lesser" school on any level they are already deep into it. No matter where they live.

PP is welcome to speculate. if someone is dug into the mindset that a school like Duke is on any level similar to Columbia, Harvard, Stanford, they are already deep into it.

Yikes for your kids. Hope they perform at a level that is satisfying enough for you, or if they don't, hope they can't tell how disappointed you are.

From Wiki:

Duke Rankings and reputation

Academic rankings
National

ARWU[175]
22
Forbes[176]
17
THE / WSJ[177]
16
U.S. News & World Report[178]
7 (tie)
Washington Monthly[179]
6

#6 and 7 for rankings only from ranking games that emphasize social mobility, pell grants, DEI, etc.

If you want to combine multiple outside rankings, all these rankings change year-to-year. This was just from last year:

Duke tied with HARVARD at #4.
What's wrong with this picture?

DCUM math: Duke = Harvard, Harvard = Stanford, Duke = Stanford

People from CA ‘bout to lose their minds when they see UCB …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Princeton
Yale
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Dartmouth
Cornell

This. +1000. All you have to say is my kid goes to an Ivy. And then after that only Stanford/MIT matter as Ivy plus. Then maybe next tier would be Chicago, Duke, Hopkins, Georgetown in terms of prestigious. Then come the rest and I am sorry state schools just don't cut it in terms of prestigious but will include Michigan and Cal.

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Princeton
Yale
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Dartmouth
Cornell

Not according to US News or basic common sense, if that is a ranking

US news is worthless. This is a global perception.

So people outside the USA know more about our own universities than we do? Hope you are joking.