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Anonymous wrote:pp with zero nannies wanting to be on the books, something tells me your pool of nannies were not eligible to legally work here. Most nannies do want to work on books since they are aware that it means social security and medicare in old age.

My nanny was legal to work but didn’t want to be paid on the books as she didn’t want to retire here.

You are bring very foolish because this can come back to bite you.

I have yet to hear a story of it coming back to bite someone except those running for office.

I’ve seen it happen multiple times. Issue arises when nanny is entitled to something that requires on books payment like unemployment or disability. Nanny can file for this and employer is hit with significant fines by dept of labor etc. including failure to pay OT. sometimes employers will try to pay nanny not to do this but legally it’s out of the nanny’s hands. Also out legal fees for the lawyer you hire to negotiate settlements etc. just depends on your appetite for risk. Odds are it won’t happen but it’s a sure headache if it does.

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Anonymous wrote:We just have a before school morning nanny for 10 hours a week M-Th going on the 2nd year. $250 a week on the books. No health insurance or other benefits but guaranteed pay of course so she gets all school holidays, sick days, bad weather days, etc off. Thought it would be really hard to find someone for just these short hours but she has a full-time nanny job that starts an hour after leaving here and it's worked out so well.

where do you find a before school morning nanny?

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Anonymous wrote:pp with zero nannies wanting to be on the books, something tells me your pool of nannies were not eligible to legally work here. Most nannies do want to work on books since they are aware that it means social security and medicare in old age.

My nanny was legal to work but didn’t want to be paid on the books as she didn’t want to retire here.

You are bring very foolish because this can come back to bite you.

I have yet to hear a story of it coming back to bite someone except those running for office.

I’ve seen it happen multiple times. Issue arises when nanny is entitled to something that requires on books payment like unemployment or disability. Nanny can file for this and employer is hit with significant fines by dept of labor etc. including failure to pay OT. sometimes employers will try to pay nanny not to do this but legally it’s out of the nanny’s hands. Also out legal fees for the lawyer you hire to negotiate settlements etc. just depends on your appetite for risk. Odds are it won’t happen but it’s a sure headache if it does.

Wouldn’t the nanny also have to pay back taxes to the IRS? And possibly penalties for the late filing / lack of withholding? My sense is that when parents pay under the table, the nannies are on board because they can hide income from the IRS.

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Anonymous wrote:pp with zero nannies wanting to be on the books, something tells me your pool of nannies were not eligible to legally work here. Most nannies do want to work on books since they are aware that it means social security and medicare in old age.

My nanny was legal to work but didn’t want to be paid on the books as she didn’t want to retire here.

You are bring very foolish because this can come back to bite you.

I have yet to hear a story of it coming back to bite someone except those running for office.

I’ve seen it happen multiple times. Issue arises when nanny is entitled to something that requires on books payment like unemployment or disability. Nanny can file for this and employer is hit with significant fines by dept of labor etc. including failure to pay OT. sometimes employers will try to pay nanny not to do this but legally it’s out of the nanny’s hands. Also out legal fees for the lawyer you hire to negotiate settlements etc. just depends on your appetite for risk. Odds are it won’t happen but it’s a sure headache if it does.

Wouldn’t the nanny also have to pay back taxes to the IRS? And possibly penalties for the late filing / lack of withholding? My sense is that when parents pay under the table, the nannies are on board because they can hide income from the IRS.

I think that's the operating assumption that both sides feel that they are in it together. But a nanny can either innocently file for unemployment because they hear it's available (not realizing the repercussions) or they can use it as leverage with a family when things end poorly. The financial impacts to the employer are much greater because of interest and treble damages etc from department of labor. Tens of thousands of dollars. I think I've heard of parents receiving fines in the 60-70k range (though sometimes these can be negotiated downward). To the IRS, nanny may be small fish and probably won't pursue any sort of criminal case. Finally many parents who employ nannies so that they may work could have one or two professional licenses on the line (attorney, doctor, broker/finance, etc.). All that said - it's not like it's 50/50 odds that you get caught. The odds are pretty low and it can be dealt with. I've never actually heard of financial ruin, but it's added stress.

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30/hr base, 45 hours a week, 2 kids, but one in prek 9-5. Bethesda.

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Anonymous wrote:pp with zero nannies wanting to be on the books, something tells me your pool of nannies were not eligible to legally work here. Most nannies do want to work on books since they are aware that it means social security and medicare in old age.

My nanny was legal to work but didn’t want to be paid on the books as she didn’t want to retire here.

You are bring very foolish because this can come back to bite you.

I have yet to hear a story of it coming back to bite someone except those running for office.

I’ve seen it happen multiple times. Issue arises when nanny is entitled to something that requires on books payment like unemployment or disability. Nanny can file for this and employer is hit with significant fines by dept of labor etc. including failure to pay OT. sometimes employers will try to pay nanny not to do this but legally it’s out of the nanny’s hands. Also out legal fees for the lawyer you hire to negotiate settlements etc. just depends on your appetite for risk. Odds are it won’t happen but it’s a sure headache if it does.

Wouldn’t the nanny also have to pay back taxes to the IRS? And possibly penalties for the late filing / lack of withholding? My sense is that when parents pay under the table, the nannies are on board because they can hide income from the IRS.

I think that's the operating assumption that both sides feel that they are in it together. But a nanny can either innocently file for unemployment because they hear it's available (not realizing the repercussions) or they can use it as leverage with a family when things end poorly. The financial impacts to the employer are much greater because of interest and treble damages etc from department of labor. Tens of thousands of dollars. I think I've heard of parents receiving fines in the 60-70k range (though sometimes these can be negotiated downward). To the IRS, nanny may be small fish and probably won't pursue any sort of criminal case. Finally many parents who employ nannies so that they may work could have one or two professional licenses on the line (attorney, doctor, broker/finance, etc.). All that said - it's not like it's 50/50 odds that you get caught. The odds are pretty low and it can be dealt with. I've never actually heard of financial ruin, but it's added stress.

Unless you pay your nanny in cash, there is a paper trail that can be used as evidence.

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About to hire an after school driver for 25/hr plus gas money. Richmond area.

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Anonymous wrote:pp with zero nannies wanting to be on the books, something tells me your pool of nannies were not eligible to legally work here. Most nannies do want to work on books since they are aware that it means social security and medicare in old age.

Not true always. I only once hired a person. In her case she was a widow on her dead husbands SS and lower income qualified for discounted medical so on the books would mess her up. The other candidate was in college full time at nights. I only needed her in day. But she was on financial aid. She did not want the income.

You also now since all kids are on parents medical to 26 if young they dont need your medical. But these are not professionals These are more short term help. In my case eight weeks. No one wanted to be on the books for 8 weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:In Howard County, $25/hr for one kid, 35 hrs/week guaranteed, over the table. Nanny is AMAZING, and our kid has a developmental disability that manifests in challenging behavior.

But is it worth it for nanny. My daughters apartment the ICE cream story is paying $24 and hour to scoop out ice cream.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know… most of my friends in NW pay $25 for multiple kids. Obviously Nannie’s are not college grads and speak little English. Kids’ enrichments come from somewhere else

Some nannies are college grads. My daughter has a degree in human development and psychology. She is trained as a hospital child life specialist. She is 23 and earns $40/hr and $60/hr overtime—usually at least 5 OT hours per week. They provide a nice SUV that she uses for both work and personal. She lives out. They reimburse health insurance premium. She gets two weeks paid vacation per year and they also give her the odd extra day off here and there.

It is a very competitive market for high quality child care.

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Anonymous wrote:Nanny here making $38 per hr. We have to charge more because the cost of living is insane. My rent goes up every year, and every time I shop for food, the price is higher than a month ago. My $38 now is $25 of 3 years ago.

Weird, $38/hr is close to
80k a year and that’s an above average salary. How do all the folks with kids who make less than that at a different job survive?

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Anonymous wrote:$12?

not the PP but that’s for live in. That’s $480 for a 40 hour week. No rent/utilities to pay.

Its illegal to deduct room and board from live in nannies

No it’s not ! As long as you are paying them the minimum hourly wage in your state. VA has a minimum hourly wage or $12/ hour , so assuming OP lives in VA, they are not doing anything illegal . Keep in mind they are also providing full room and board for the nanny, which pretty much leaves the nanny with a discretionary spending of $2000 a month. How many blue collar workers do you know who have $2000 left over after paying rent, utilities and groceries every month?

The nanny might have a car payment, car insurance payments, health insurance costs, cell phone bills, grocery bills, clothing costs, personal care costs, etc. It’s not “discretionary spending” if it all goes to pay bills and provide for needs.

And it actually is illegal to withhold wages to cover “rent and board” if you value those things at more than about $135 a week.

I can’t tell if you’re trolling, dumb, or just trying to jack up the market rate for live ins. No one is withholding wages to cover room and board. The job offer is legal minimum wage (or whatever) and one perk that a candidate might consider and value is that it comes with a free place to live. Just like some nonprofit jobs pay less than private sector, but people take the positions because they come with the added benefit of prestige or connections.

Anyway, do others with live in nannies pay minimum wage as well? Trying to get a handle on the market rate for this position.

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Paying a nanny a minimum wage is disrespectful, IMHO, live in or not. if she is live in, she is there for your convenience. She probably would much prefer not to live in but either has trouble finding a job or in such circumstances that just needs a roof over her head

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Anonymous wrote:$12?

not the PP but that’s for live in. That’s $480 for a 40 hour week. No rent/utilities to pay.

Its illegal to deduct room and board from live in nannies

You can pay them a lower rate though, so long as it’s not below minimum wage. $12/hr is legal in a lot of states.

Only a fool, homeless, ot undocumented would accept $12/,,hr for live in or live out. Live in is a convenience for employer s d should pay accordingly.

Yes, these days twelve dollars an hr. is highway robbery.

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I think live-in Nannies should definitely make less than a live-out.

Why so??
Because they do not incur living expenses which is a huge perk.