Feel like I need to babysit my professors so I get my extra time accommodation

[Anonymous]

My DC attended classes at three universities and had several accommodations. He always contacted the Professor at the beginning of the semester and proactively made sure he was receiving his accommodations. People, including professors, are human and make mistakes- if the student is proactive they can limit those.

[Anonymous]

I didn't have time to read the many pages of response, but as a professor who teaches online, I can take a stab at why you're having trouble getting accommodations inputted.

In face-to-face classes, there is a very specific protocol for giving extra time. Yes, students inform ahead of time (as you have done). But the next step is that the student schedules the extra time with the disability office, who prompts the faculty member for a copy of the exam, proctors it, and returns it. So there's nothing for the professor to really remember.

In online classes, each time a quiz or test is created, the professor needs to remember that a student needs accommodations and needs to go in and program the test for that student. I don't know what the process is with proctors. But it's reasonable to think that the professor needs a reminder for each test.

I personally have a system to keep track of who needs accommodations but even with that, I need to specifically remember to do it in online classes, and I really have to remember nothing in face-to-face classes.

Also, since you're taking classes entirely online, I wonder if you're a grad student rather than undergrad? Students in either population can qualify for accommodations but in my experience, far, far fewer grad students request it. So in a given class, there's probably only one student I need to remember about (which makes it less memorable).

My suggestion is to keep track of when the test shows up in your system, check ASAP whether you've been allotted extra time, and check in with the professor asap. You could also make a note to remind the professor two weeks prior to the test (if you don't know when it will be set up).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This may have more to do with my online classes, but why does this happen every semester? Every single semester for the last 3 years, this has happened. It's hard to know what regular time is and what time and a half is because it not always announced what is regular time. Sometimes, the professor will write you need to have 90 minutes for the final or something like that as a group email. I am in my last week now and I see that I didn't get extra time programmed for two of my finals this week. The exams are proctored. I will probably send a short email saying you probably didn't realize but I don't see extra time programmed for my final. The professor I am most worried about takes weeks to return emails. She also insists we address her as "doctor blah blah blah". :lol:

Start it this way: please forgive me for not contacting you before you scheduled exams…

Op this is absurd and not the way the student services told me it should be handled. It's an online class. She's not god. I have contacted her and cc'd student services earlier in the semester because even after reminding her it was still not programmed in on the day of my exam. Since it's an online class and exams are done online she needs to take it seriously because otherwise, I won't get the accommodation. I think it's ridiculous a grown adult needs to be reminded this much.

Maybe she, too, has executive functioning problems similar to your own and she has been allowed extra time by the university to answer emails and extra time to meet the requests of students, so, things have naturally become backlogged.

[Anonymous]

It’s a bit rich that someone who claims to require extra time to complete important tasks, per her disability, is complaining that her professor is taking extra time to do things 😆

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.

Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.

OP here. Maybe 2 year colleges. I'm unsure of what degrees are needed to teach at a community college, but I don't think they need a PhD.
She's very different from all of my other professors. Most of them are casual and say to call them by their first name. Some of my professor will sign emails as Dr. B but she's the first that came out and insisted over and over again to be called Dr.

Professors have a lot going on--they are not going to remember the individual needs of all their adult students. This is on you. Your calling this having to "babysit" your professor? Ugh. You sound awful--I feel sorry for what professors have to deal with.

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Professors DO have a lot going on, & like any busy people, they need to prioritize things.

They don’t intentionally disregard accommodations, but they are aware of how easy it is to pretend to need them, & therefore they take them with a grain of salt.

The more disrespectful the student is, the more likely the professor is going to think the student is the kind of a-hole who would fake a disability. Of all the issues on their plates, making sure an entitled, disrespectful undergrad gets an extra half hour (for reasons that are possibly bogus)on an exam is way way way down at the bottom of their priority lists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s a bit rich that someone who claims to require extra time to complete important tasks, per her disability, is complaining that her professor is taking extra time to do things 😆

Her professor isn't taking more time. She's breaking the law by not giving her the extra time. She's not above the law. If a person took an extra day to give someone a disability parking spot would that be laughed at? If she's not given the extra time she will most likely take the exam without the extra time and that's not fair. At some point, it is on the professor to do their job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.

Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.

OP here. Maybe 2 year colleges. I'm unsure of what degrees are needed to teach at a community college, but I don't think they need a PhD.
She's very different from all of my other professors. Most of them are casual and say to call them by their first name. Some of my professor will sign emails as Dr. B but she's the first that came out and insisted over and over again to be called Dr.

Professors have a lot going on--they are not going to remember the individual needs of all their adult students. This is on you. Your calling this having to "babysit" your professor? Ugh. You sound awful--I feel sorry for what professors have to deal with.

+1

Professors DO have a lot going on, & like any busy people, they need to prioritize things.

They don’t intentionally disregard accommodations, but they are aware of how easy it is to pretend to need them, & therefore they take them with a grain of salt.

The more disrespectful the student is, the more likely the professor is going to think the student is the kind of a-hole who would fake a disability. Of all the issues on their plates, making sure an entitled, disrespectful undergrad gets an extra half hour (for reasons that are possibly bogus)on an exam is way way way down at the bottom of their priority lists.

Your post makes no sense. They don't disregard them on purpose but then you going a tangent of how they are probably faking it. A lot of people have ADHD and that means extra time. It's not that deep. Adhd is considered a disability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This may have more to do with my online classes, but why does this happen every semester? Every single semester for the last 3 years, this has happened. It's hard to know what regular time is and what time and a half is because it not always announced what is regular time. Sometimes, the professor will write you need to have 90 minutes for the final or something like that as a group email. I am in my last week now and I see that I didn't get extra time programmed for two of my finals this week. The exams are proctored. I will probably send a short email saying you probably didn't realize but I don't see extra time programmed for my final. The professor I am most worried about takes weeks to return emails. She also insists we address her as "doctor blah blah blah". :lol:

Start it this way: please forgive me for not contacting you before you scheduled exams…

Op this is absurd and not the way the student services told me it should be handled. It's an online class. She's not god. I have contacted her and cc'd student services earlier in the semester because even after reminding her it was still not programmed in on the day of my exam. Since it's an online class and exams are done online she needs to take it seriously because otherwise, I won't get the accommodation. I think it's ridiculous a grown adult needs to be reminded this much.

Maybe she, too, has executive functioning problems similar to your own and she has been allowed extra time by the university to answer emails and extra time to meet the requests of students, so, things have naturally become backlogged.

Ha! Love this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't have time to read the many pages of response, but as a professor who teaches online, I can take a stab at why you're having trouble getting accommodations inputted.

In face-to-face classes, there is a very specific protocol for giving extra time. Yes, students inform ahead of time (as you have done). But the next step is that the student schedules the extra time with the disability office, who prompts the faculty member for a copy of the exam, proctors it, and returns it. So there's nothing for the professor to really remember.

In online classes, each time a quiz or test is created, the professor needs to remember that a student needs accommodations and needs to go in and program the test for that student. I don't know what the process is with proctors. But it's reasonable to think that the professor needs a reminder for each test.

I personally have a system to keep track of who needs accommodations but even with that, I need to specifically remember to do it in online classes, and I really have to remember nothing in face-to-face classes.

Also, since you're taking classes entirely online, I wonder if you're a grad student rather than undergrad? Students in either population can qualify for accommodations but in my experience, far, far fewer grad students request it. So in a given class, there's probably only one student I need to remember about (which makes it less memorable).

My suggestion is to keep track of when the test shows up in your system, check ASAP whether you've been allotted extra time, and check in with the professor asap. You could also make a note to remind the professor two weeks prior to the test (if you don't know when it will be set up).

Op thanks. I have emailed student services and cc'ed her in the email. I will see if my email can set up auto emails to professors. For some exams, we have one day to do them and there is no way to know if you have extra time until the day of the exam. I am an undergrad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a bit rich that someone who claims to require extra time to complete important tasks, per her disability, is complaining that her professor is taking extra time to do things 😆

Her professor isn't taking more time. She's breaking the law by not giving her the extra time. She's not above the law. If a person took an extra day to give someone a disability parking spot would that be laughed at? If she's not given the extra time she will most likely take the exam without the extra time and that's not fair. At some point, it is on the professor to do their job.

And maybe the university is breaking the law if they penalize the professor for not answering your emails fast enough or completing all of her job tasks (like allotting extra time to students) because she , too, has a disability that needs to be accommodated.

At some point, it’s on ALL people to learn to function within the constraints of our society and if that means you can’t do certain jobs or can’t pass certain classes, so be it.

[Anonymous]

If my disability is that I have a low IQ, can I be given easier questions on exams and still get credit for passing the same classes as my normo-IQ classmates? I know this sounds snarky but I’m actually a little curious. If someone gets extra time because they can’t finish the test on time (and the results will be compared to the results of students who didn’t take extra time), can someone else also get different questions if their disability makes it hard for them to understand the original questions?

[Anonymous]

If it’s online, then it’s even more challenging for the professors, they have to code an exception into the testing program to allow extra time. They have to clearly program the different start and end times, the total minutes( time and a half or double time or whatever). Test also has to be linked with the appropriate learning management system, the browser lockdown system, and the proctoring system. They all have to be programmed and coded to run together at the same time to permit video proctoring and applications locked down while simultaneously offering the test questions for Op. Moreover, the professor needs to be available before or after the exam to accommodate all of these elongated test takers. Mind you, some students are requesting to start 45 minutes before the exam while others are requesting 20 minutes before and 25 minutes after, etc. It’s a lot of exceptions to individually code. And based on student requests, the parameters change for each test. Coding in 15 different time windows for 15 different students takes time and a lot of attention to detail. The student needs to contact the professor a week before the exam and express their time preferences so all of the properties are coded before test day and make sure that they are even available to proctor it. The student should reach out before each test—1 week in advance. Op, you are not the only student with accommodations. There is a lot going on in the background, too. Try to see things from the other person’s side in life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Professor here.

I routinely have classes of 100 with maybe 3-4 students who get extra time on tests. I try to remember to program this but when announcing test reminders I always say "if you have extra time please remind me via email so I can ensure it's built-in." I issue about 6 reminders so this is not called out by itself.

As for late work, if someone comes up to tell me something will be late I typically remember that is permitted but always appreciate reminders.

Returning emails weeks late is inexcusable.

How hard is it to make a list of the students who need extra time? I'll tell you ---- not at all. You're being lazy, pure and simple.

Prof prolly got tired of all the students faking their disabilities to get extra time on exams. 90 percent of these kids at Univ are fakers. Just like in HS and with standardized testing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If my disability is that I have a low IQ, can I be given easier questions on exams and still get credit for passing the same classes as my normo-IQ classmates? I know this sounds snarky but I’m actually a little curious. If someone gets extra time because they can’t finish the test on time (and the results will be compared to the results of students who didn’t take extra time), can someone else also get different questions if their disability makes it hard for them to understand the original questions?

You could with an IEP in public school, but not in college as they don’t have IEPs. For college you have to be intelligent enough to be admitted and be able to keep up with peers. You might receive accommodations such as extra time, copies of notes, asl interpreter, preferential seating, etc but you can’t get another exam. You could get it in Braille if you needed it, but it would be the same questions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Professor here.

I routinely have classes of 100 with maybe 3-4 students who get extra time on tests. I try to remember to program this but when announcing test reminders I always say "if you have extra time please remind me via email so I can ensure it's built-in." I issue about 6 reminders so this is not called out by itself.

As for late work, if someone comes up to tell me something will be late I typically remember that is permitted but always appreciate reminders.

Returning emails weeks late is inexcusable.

How hard is it to make a list of the students who need extra time? I'll tell you ---- not at all. You're being lazy, pure and simple.

Prof prolly got tired of all the students faking their disabilities to get extra time on exams. 90 percent of these kids at Univ are fakers. Just like in HS and with standardized testing.

True. Mommy got some paid shrink to sign off on a piece of paper and its 50 percent extra time forever--- partay!