Why apply to an Oberlin/Kenyon/Grinnell

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Anonymous wrote:when there are similar schools on the East Coast? Not trying to be snarky; genuinely wondering what these schools have that a Bates/Bowdoin/Colby/Hamilton does not.

Lol. OP, try to imagine a world where not everyone thinks that the east coast is awesome.

[Anonymous]

Oberlin, Kenyon, and Grinnell all offer merit scholarships. Grinnell is very generous regarding need based financial aid and gives need based aid to international applicants.

All offer solid academics.

Oberlin is ultra-liberal which attracts like-minded applicants.

[Anonymous]

Kenyon aid is pretty good. 30% of students getting non need based aid, average of $16k.

Oberlin even better, 38% of undergrads getting non need aid, average of $23k.

Grinnell, 26% getting non need based, average of $19.7k.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:when there are similar schools on the East Coast? Not trying to be snarky; genuinely wondering what these schools have that a Bates/Bowdoin/Colby/Hamilton does not.

Because mom is on the East Coast.

[Anonymous]

Not as snobby.

[Anonymous]

Come on, this is all about some people never being able to accept the concept that anybody west of Pittsburgh & East of California is smart enough to boil water.

These same people often consider themselves to be very open minded, & they would bite anybody’s head off if they even hinted that the people in Boboslavia or Bobostan were falling slightly behind the people in other countries. But they have no problem telling you every single Midwesterner is a bumbling hick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Come on, this is all about some people never being able to accept the concept that anybody west of Pittsburgh & East of California is smart enough to boil water.

These same people often consider themselves to be very open minded, & they would bite anybody’s head off if they even hinted that the people in Boboslavia or Bobostan were falling slightly behind the people in other countries. But they have no problem telling you every single Midwesterner is a bumbling hick.

The thing is these schools are filled with kids from the East coast, but of course more from the Midwest. There is something to be said for being the best schools of a particular type within a region as opposed to being way down the list.

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Anonymous wrote:Acceptance rate at Colby and Bowdoin - 9%
Acceptance rate at Hamilton - 14%
Acceptance rate at Bates - 17%

Acceptance rate at Kenyon and Oberlin - 35%
Acceptance rate at Grinnell 11% but fewer east coast applicants than the ones you asked about.

This may be part of your answer.

Colby and Bowdoin - no merit aid
Hamilton - no merit aid
Bates - no merit aid

Kenyon and Oberlin - merit aid available
Grinnell - merit aid available

There you have your answer.

Colby may not give merit aid but they have committed to being one of the most affordable small colleges in the country. Families that make less than $150K (which is a lot outside of the DC bubble) pay no more than $15k per year and more than 70% of families receive financial aid. Plus, the facilities are extraordinary. It does have the drawback of being in the middle of nowhere.

That is irrelevant for families in the donut hole. For them, it's all about merit aid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Acceptance rate at Colby and Bowdoin - 9%
Acceptance rate at Hamilton - 14%
Acceptance rate at Bates - 17%

Acceptance rate at Kenyon and Oberlin - 35%
Acceptance rate at Grinnell 11% but fewer east coast applicants than the ones you asked about.

This may be part of your answer.

Colby and Bowdoin - no merit aid
Hamilton - no merit aid
Bates - no merit aid

Kenyon and Oberlin - merit aid available
Grinnell - merit aid available

There you have your answer.

Colby may not give merit aid but they have committed to being one of the most affordable small colleges in the country. Families that make less than $150K (which is a lot outside of the DC bubble) pay no more than $15k per year and more than 70% of families receive financial aid. Plus, the facilities are extraordinary. It does have the drawback of being in the middle of nowhere.

That is irrelevant for families in the donut hole. For them, it's all about merit aid.

This seemed false and it is. 46 pct of Colby students receive need based aid in line with most of these schools. Colby’s financial aid is typical among SLACs. https://afa.colby.edu/apply/college-profile/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Acceptance rate at Colby and Bowdoin - 9%
Acceptance rate at Hamilton - 14%
Acceptance rate at Bates - 17%

Acceptance rate at Kenyon and Oberlin - 35%
Acceptance rate at Grinnell 11% but fewer east coast applicants than the ones you asked about.

This may be part of your answer.

Colby and Bowdoin - no merit aid
Hamilton - no merit aid
Bates - no merit aid

Kenyon and Oberlin - merit aid available
Grinnell - merit aid available

There you have your answer.

Colby may not give merit aid but they have committed to being one of the most affordable small colleges in the country. Families that make less than $150K (which is a lot outside of the DC bubble) pay no more than $15k per year and more than 70% of families receive financial aid. Plus, the facilities are extraordinary. It does have the drawback of being in the middle of nowhere.

That is irrelevant for families in the donut hole. For them, it's all about merit aid.

This seemed false and it is. 46 pct of Colby students receive need based aid in line with most of these schools. Colby’s financial aid is typical among SLACs. https://afa.colby.edu/apply/college-profile/

Looks like someone doesn’t know what the donut hole is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Acceptance rate at Colby and Bowdoin - 9%
Acceptance rate at Hamilton - 14%
Acceptance rate at Bates - 17%

Acceptance rate at Kenyon and Oberlin - 35%
Acceptance rate at Grinnell 11% but fewer east coast applicants than the ones you asked about.

This may be part of your answer.

Colby and Bowdoin - no merit aid
Hamilton - no merit aid
Bates - no merit aid

Kenyon and Oberlin - merit aid available
Grinnell - merit aid available

There you have your answer.

Colby may not give merit aid but they have committed to being one of the most affordable small colleges in the country. Families that make less than $150K (which is a lot outside of the DC bubble) pay no more than $15k per year and more than 70% of families receive financial aid. Plus, the facilities are extraordinary. It does have the drawback of being in the middle of nowhere.

That is irrelevant for families in the donut hole. For them, it's all about merit aid.

This seemed false and it is. 46 pct of Colby students receive need based aid in line with most of these schools. Colby’s financial aid is typical among SLACs. https://afa.colby.edu/apply/college-profile/

Looks like someone doesn’t know what the donut hole is.

I know what donut hole is, we didn't even apply for aid... what was false was this statement: "more than 70% of families receive financial aid"

It seemed very high, I checked it out, and it was wrong. Colby is like any other LAC where a little less than half the kids get need based aid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Acceptance rate at Colby and Bowdoin - 9%
Acceptance rate at Hamilton - 14%
Acceptance rate at Bates - 17%

Acceptance rate at Kenyon and Oberlin - 35%
Acceptance rate at Grinnell 11% but fewer east coast applicants than the ones you asked about.

This may be part of your answer.

Colby and Bowdoin - no merit aid
Hamilton - no merit aid
Bates - no merit aid

Kenyon and Oberlin - merit aid available
Grinnell - merit aid available

There you have your answer.

Colby may not give merit aid but they have committed to being one of the most affordable small colleges in the country. Families that make less than $150K (which is a lot outside of the DC bubble) pay no more than $15k per year and more than 70% of families receive financial aid. Plus, the facilities are extraordinary. It does have the drawback of being in the middle of nowhere.

That is irrelevant for families in the donut hole. For them, it's all about merit aid.

This seemed false and it is. 46 pct of Colby students receive need based aid in line with most of these schools. Colby’s financial aid is typical among SLACs. https://afa.colby.edu/apply/college-profile/

Looks like someone doesn’t know what the donut hole is.

Colby says: "Colby College meets 100% of demonstrated need without student loans. Families with a total income of up to $75,000 with typical assets can expect a parent or guardian contribution of $0. Families earning $65,000 to $150,000 with typical assets will have a parent or guardian contribution of $15,000 or less. In recent years, more than 95 percent of families with a total income of $200,000 or less have qualified for financial aid."

The say the annual cost is $86k and it looks like a donut hole family would end up paying $35-50k, which is not terrible considering that lots of "affordable" options are still $40k per year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Acceptance rate at Colby and Bowdoin - 9%
Acceptance rate at Hamilton - 14%
Acceptance rate at Bates - 17%

Acceptance rate at Kenyon and Oberlin - 35%
Acceptance rate at Grinnell 11% but fewer east coast applicants than the ones you asked about.

This may be part of your answer.

Colby and Bowdoin - no merit aid
Hamilton - no merit aid
Bates - no merit aid

Kenyon and Oberlin - merit aid available
Grinnell - merit aid available

There you have your answer.

Colby may not give merit aid but they have committed to being one of the most affordable small colleges in the country. Families that make less than $150K (which is a lot outside of the DC bubble) pay no more than $15k per year and more than 70% of families receive financial aid. Plus, the facilities are extraordinary. It does have the drawback of being in the middle of nowhere.

That is irrelevant for families in the donut hole. For them, it's all about merit aid.

This seemed false and it is. 46 pct of Colby students receive need based aid in line with most of these schools. Colby’s financial aid is typical among SLACs. https://afa.colby.edu/apply/college-profile/

Looks like someone doesn’t know what the donut hole is.

Colby says: "Colby College meets 100% of demonstrated need without student loans. Families with a total income of up to $75,000 with typical assets can expect a parent or guardian contribution of $0. Families earning $65,000 to $150,000 with typical assets will have a parent or guardian contribution of $15,000 or less. In recent years, more than 95 percent of families with a total income of $200,000 or less have qualified for financial aid."

The say the annual cost is $86k and it looks like a donut hole family would end up paying $35-50k, which is not terrible considering that lots of "affordable" options are still $40k per year.

A donut hole family is a family that doesn't qualify for aid. They get zero aka a donut hole. Usually refers to a family that is just above the threshold.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Acceptance rate at Colby and Bowdoin - 9%
Acceptance rate at Hamilton - 14%
Acceptance rate at Bates - 17%

Acceptance rate at Kenyon and Oberlin - 35%
Acceptance rate at Grinnell 11% but fewer east coast applicants than the ones you asked about.

This may be part of your answer.

Colby and Bowdoin - no merit aid
Hamilton - no merit aid
Bates - no merit aid

Kenyon and Oberlin - merit aid available
Grinnell - merit aid available

There you have your answer.

Colby may not give merit aid but they have committed to being one of the most affordable small colleges in the country. Families that make less than $150K (which is a lot outside of the DC bubble) pay no more than $15k per year and more than 70% of families receive financial aid. Plus, the facilities are extraordinary. It does have the drawback of being in the middle of nowhere.

That is irrelevant for families in the donut hole. For them, it's all about merit aid.

This seemed false and it is. 46 pct of Colby students receive need based aid in line with most of these schools. Colby’s financial aid is typical among SLACs. https://afa.colby.edu/apply/college-profile/

You are out of touch. I know that the financial aid is typical among SLACs - I have put three kids through LACs.

For families that neither qualify for need-based aid, nor can pay $80,000 per kit per year, the options are in-state public schools or private schools that give merit aid. That's the reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Acceptance rate at Colby and Bowdoin - 9%
Acceptance rate at Hamilton - 14%
Acceptance rate at Bates - 17%

Acceptance rate at Kenyon and Oberlin - 35%
Acceptance rate at Grinnell 11% but fewer east coast applicants than the ones you asked about.

This may be part of your answer.

Colby and Bowdoin - no merit aid
Hamilton - no merit aid
Bates - no merit aid

Kenyon and Oberlin - merit aid available
Grinnell - merit aid available

There you have your answer.

Colby may not give merit aid but they have committed to being one of the most affordable small colleges in the country. Families that make less than $150K (which is a lot outside of the DC bubble) pay no more than $15k per year and more than 70% of families receive financial aid. Plus, the facilities are extraordinary. It does have the drawback of being in the middle of nowhere.

That is irrelevant for families in the donut hole. For them, it's all about merit aid.

This seemed false and it is. 46 pct of Colby students receive need based aid in line with most of these schools. Colby’s financial aid is typical among SLACs. https://afa.colby.edu/apply/college-profile/

Looks like someone doesn’t know what the donut hole is.

Colby says: "Colby College meets 100% of demonstrated need without student loans. Families with a total income of up to $75,000 with typical assets can expect a parent or guardian contribution of $0. Families earning $65,000 to $150,000 with typical assets will have a parent or guardian contribution of $15,000 or less. In recent years, more than 95 percent of families with a total income of $200,000 or less have qualified for financial aid."

The say the annual cost is $86k and it looks like a donut hole family would end up paying $35-50k, which is not terrible considering that lots of "affordable" options are still $40k per year.

A donut hole family is a family that doesn't qualify for aid. They get zero aka a donut hole. Usually refers to a family that is just above the threshold.

A family like mine, with three kids and $225,000 in annual household income, gets zero financial aid. We cannot pay $85,000 per year, times three kids, for undergraduate education. It's not possible.