I find it annoying when people get on here and say it really doesn't matter where your kid goes

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Anonymous wrote:“Reread and try to put your self in the shoes of a POC immigrant lawyer, trying to make it in corporate America. “

But OP is not an immigrant. Parents were immigrants. So their kid that is applying now has Grandparents that are immigrants and parents that are American born lawyers for goodness sakes.

And yet they insist that where their kids attend college matters. Welcome to america?!?

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Anonymous wrote:Of course it matters. You go to these schools for the connections and peer group. Rich people

https://nyti.ms/3PxRhVD

Mark Zuckerberg’s college roommate was offered the chance to co-found Facebook and he said NO. His dad didn’t want him to drop out of Harvard.

When that call comes home to you, are you saying drop out and start the company or stay at Harvard?

He wound up with a good job, but not billions of dollars and global-level success.

He had exactly the right connection at the exact right time. But he had to take a huge risk to capitalize on it.

Are you encouraging your kid to take that risk?

I wouldn't say I am either encouraging or discouraging. These top schools make it easy to take a hiatus, especially if you are doing it because you have a hot new company that just raised VC $$$s. I would absolutely be fine if my kid said they wanted to take a break to pursue the next FB, Google, OpenAI, etc.

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I believe that an recent immigrant or first generation family may genuinely believe that prestige matters because it's consistent with the overall "brand" of the American dream. However, it's simply incorrect. Upward mobility comes from a bit of educational success and a lot of professional and financial success. To echo the points of others, plenty of Ivy grads are sitting at desks and roaming in Target aisles next to folks who went to a perfectly mid-ranked state school. The key is what you learn, what opportunities you seize and what you do after school to build the foundation for your family.

I understand that this rocks the cliche assumption that East and South Asian families "demand" top education, but ultimately they would be better served focusing their finances and energy in other areas.

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I'm a law partner. I went to a SUNY school and then a tier 1 law school that was not Ivy. The woman who sits next to me went to Ivy for undergrad and law school. She did not make partner. The guy who sits on the other side of me went to an instate school undergrad and McGeorge for law school, which I'd never even heard of.

It doesn't matter where you go in certain fields. Nobody cares where a public school teacher went to college.

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You've to be either exceptional or an ambitious go getter to do well without a top college education.

If its just about saving and making money, you can do two years at community college, two years at regional uni, do healthcare internships and take MCAT and apply to DO programs in obscure medical schools, even easier to get in if you pick primary healthcare or family practice.

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* DO programs require lower MCAT and GPA

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s true for a lot of people.

Some people have a good enough network that it doesn’t matter at all. They might not be wealthy but they know enough people to get their kid in the door where they need to go. Sure, the kid still needs a degree, but it doesn’t matter if it’s from Dartmouth or North Dakota state.

Then there are people who can’t get mom or dad to call their buddies to pull strings for an internship or an interview.

The older I get the more I realize life is a popularity contest.

Everyone read the bolded. It’s true and people chasing after high-ranked college acceptances thinking that will trump this are playing a losing game.

[Anonymous]

Not sure why the focus on medicine, but students get into top medical schools from public universities all them time. Many of the top medical schools ARE at the very same schools.

[Anonymous]

One strategy is to do cheap or free undergrad then go for a top masters or law. Another is to do cheap undergrad and cheap low ranking medical school. In law, you have to have rankings. Good news, its easier to get into Ivies for masters.

[Anonymous]

Many kids from my circle ended up in McKinsey, IBM, medical schools etc even though they were mediocre students and attended mediocre local colleges. They did have connected parents who hooked them up with top internships.

Going to a top school is important for students with no connections in their intended fields specially if non STEM majors.

[Anonymous]

Many DO schools in Arkansas, Mississippi, Texas type states have more than 80% acceptance rate. In contrast, top MD programs in desired towns have 1-5 % acceptance rate.

[Anonymous]

Both get similar income and money, depending on which specialty the opt for. A plastic surgeon from either program earns a ton, a general pediatrician from either programs makes the least among physicians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure why the focus on medicine, but students get into top medical schools from public universities all them time. Many of the top medical schools ARE at the very same schools.

Because its a given there to get high income even if you are mediocre and just doing basics. In law or finance or consulting, you've to be really top to get to top income.

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I am betting though that OP, the non immigrant POC lawyer, still has the bamboo ceiling and model minority bias to deal with, from their white elite Ivy league educated colleagues. But you still insist it doesn’t matter which college they attend.

If she's working with racists then an Ivy degree isn't going to change their low opinion of her. They'll just think she was a boring grade-grubber who crammed for all her tests and somehow cheated on the SAT and LSAT.

No, it doesn't matter what college you attend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I believe that an recent immigrant or first generation family may genuinely believe that prestige matters because it's consistent with the overall "brand" of the American dream. However, it's simply incorrect. Upward mobility comes from a bit of educational success and a lot of professional and financial success. To echo the points of others, plenty of Ivy grads are sitting at desks and roaming in Target aisles next to folks who went to a perfectly mid-ranked state school. The key is what you learn, what opportunities you seize and what you do after school to build the foundation for your family.

I understand that this rocks the cliche assumption that East and South Asian families "demand" top education, but ultimately they would be better served focusing their finances and energy in other areas.

Yes.