School Asking DC To Mask To Accomodate An Other

[Anonymous]

I'd probably take the move to a different class. Especially if it's elementary school, like others we're already dealing with a bunch of speech issues either caused or exacerbated by extended mask wearing in early speech development years.

I'd also want to know if it's a medical situation actually affecting the child, or if it's because there's a family member at home, or frequent visitor to the home, that they're trying to protect. If it's affecting the child and it's middle or high school, I may give my kid the choice.

[Anonymous]

If it was elementary school I’d request to switch. Middle or high school I’d discuss it with my child and let them make the call. I’d request that the school provide the masks if we stayed in the class.

[Anonymous]

I have worked with bone marrow/stem cell transplant kids. They don’t go to school while their immune system is reconstituting as it is too dangerous. Being isolated has a heavy social impact on kids. If there is a child with an immune compromise that is a bit safer but the masking would help them I would comply. If it’s a drama mamma, no way!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many parents would go to bat for a truly sick classmate. But even my cousin with cf doesn’t request that classmates mask because his doctors say it wouldn’t really help protect him. Instead they have to virtual school him during the high sickness months. So I think parents are right to be skeptical about this request without more information, it doesn’t really make medical or logical sense.

The irony is those us us who have kept our kids virtual are bashed for it too. Can’t win.

If you kept your medically compromised child home and were bashed for it, then I’m truly sorry. That’s sh¡tty.

[Anonymous]

I can't believe how offended everyone is by the request. A school is obviously not permitted to give out another child's medical information, so everyone needs to get over wanting to know why the request was made. Either ask your kid to wear the mask or don't. You are within your rights to decline to have your kid mask just as the parents were within their rights to ask the school to make the request. Your outrage over the request changes nothing except maybe your blood pressure, which I imagine is sky high if these are the things that get you all hot and bothered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe how offended everyone is by the request. A school is obviously not permitted to give out another child's medical information, so everyone needs to get over wanting to know why the request was made. Either ask your kid to wear the mask or don't. You are within your rights to decline to have your kid mask just as the parents were within their rights to ask the school to make the request. Your outrage over the request changes nothing except maybe your blood pressure, which I imagine is sky high if these are the things that get you all hot and bothered.

I don't know if offended is the right word, but skeptical might be. And if you hop on over the Health forum and look at the wide variety of BS reasons that some people "just feel more comfortable" wearing a mask, you might see why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not know what district you are in - may have missed - but the ACLU ruling only applies to these ten districts: The 10 school districts affected by the ruling are Albemarle County Public Schools, Manassas City Public Schools, Henrico County Public Schools, Chesterfield County Public Schools, Cumberland County Public Schools, York County School Division, Bedford County Public Schools, Chesapeake City Public Schools, Loudoun County Public Schools and Fairfax County Public Schools. https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/03/24/virgina-masking-school-aclu-suit/

The issue at this point is obviously the concerning lack of data that children masking prevents any sort of spread - esp as they take them off to eat etc. And when the vaccine is available to every school-aged high-risk child that needs it plus boosters - why ask others to to mask for you? Does this child go anywhere besides school, if so, then they are surrounded by non-masked. Children already have a low r-naught (see Catalonia study as example).

The high-risk child can mask themselves as well if the parents feel like asking them to do that. There are no studies showing kid's wearing non-fit tested masks are reducing spread. All the MMWR's and observational studies the CDC promoted of schools - when the timelines are expanded - show no reduction in spread/positive tests in mask mandated districts vs mask optional. And any observational studies done in 2020 or 2021 were using cloth masks so we can immediately see that a supposed effect is suspect. When you dig in deeper you'll see that their contract tracing only tested post-exposure of non-masked students - immediately confounding results.

Asking parents to make their students mask is a virtue signal at best at this point in 2023. COVID is endemic; it will be around the entire life of that child. Almost every child has had at this point per serological data. They can be vaccinated. They can mask themselves.

This is not justifiable from a public health perspective at this point.

You really do go to great lengths to show what an uncaring person you are.

There is no place for feelings when discussing science.

[Anonymous]

I know both a young child (2) and an elderly man who have died this week from Covid.

This is still here, and still dangerous. I can't believe people would begrudge another child requesting - not demanding - children close to them wear a mask.

If you DGAF about others, please, move your child to the other class. Stop demanding their medical info and be a nice human being.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I got an email asking my child to wear a mask in a certain class becuse another child had a 'medical situation'. If we decline, DC will be moved to another class.

Am I wrong to be put off by this? A 'medical situation', without further explanation, could be anything between luekemia and being the child of one of those drama queens that won't let go of the mask because of the politics behind it. I won't force my kid to endure another year of masking to support the latter but I would bend over backwars to accomodate the former.

How do I go about answering the request?

All of you saying no masking should read Robert Reich today. This is the problem with our country, everyone only cares about themselves, and not others. It's a horrifying social experiment that won't end well

the “horrifying social experiment” was actually forcing toddlers to mask.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did they say what type of mask? Especially if this is ES, I wouldn't trust the safety of my medically fragile child to a classroom of little kids wearing ill fitting cloth masks...

exactly. they aren’t going to force the kids into fit-tested n95s. this is pure theater.

[Anonymous]

I wish they worked. I really do. But unfortunately trial after randomized trial show they don’t.

They don’t work for flu (decades of research shows that), they barely work for wildfire smoke (and they need to be n95 for that). Unfortunately the data shows they are not an effective mitigation measure. I wish this child the very very best and I hope the vaccine is effective for them, but asking others to wear masks for them isn’t doing anything to keep them safer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish they worked. I really do. But unfortunately trial after randomized trial show they don’t.

They don’t work for flu (decades of research shows that), they barely work for wildfire smoke (and they need to be n95 for that). Unfortunately the data shows they are not an effective mitigation measure. I wish this child the very very best and I hope the vaccine is effective for them, but asking others to wear masks for them isn’t doing anything to keep them safer.

Of course masks work. Stop spreading your disinformation.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/masks-work-distorting-science-to-dispute-the-evidence-doesnt/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I got an email asking my child to wear a mask in a certain class becuse another child had a 'medical situation'. If we decline, DC will be moved to another class.

Am I wrong to be put off by this? A 'medical situation', without further explanation, could be anything between luekemia and being the child of one of those drama queens that won't let go of the mask because of the politics behind it. I won't force my kid to endure another year of masking to support the latter but I would bend over backwars to accomodate the former.

How do I go about answering the request?

You respond with that your kid is allergic to having too many kids in a classroom. Maybe 10 kids in a classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish they worked. I really do. But unfortunately trial after randomized trial show they don’t.

They don’t work for flu (decades of research shows that), they barely work for wildfire smoke (and they need to be n95 for that). Unfortunately the data shows they are not an effective mitigation measure. I wish this child the very very best and I hope the vaccine is effective for them, but asking others to wear masks for them isn’t doing anything to keep them safer.

Of course masks work. Stop spreading your disinformation.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/masks-work-distorting-science-to-dispute-the-evidence-doesnt/

No they don’t. Again i wish they did. https://www.cochrane.org/CD006207/ARI_do-physical-measures-such-hand-washing-or-wearing-masks-stop-or-slow-down-spread-respiratory-viruses

Surgical masks: “Compared with wearing no mask in the community studies only, wearing a mask may make little to no difference in how many people caught a flu-like illness/COVID-like illness (9 studies; 276,917 people); and probably makes little or no difference in how many people have flu/COVID confirmed by a laboratory test (6 studies; 13,919 people).”

Respirators: “ Compared with wearing medical or surgical masks, wearing N95/P2 respirators probably makes little to no difference in how many people have confirmed flu (5 studies; 8407 people); and may make little to no difference in how many people catch a flu-like illness (5 studies; 8407 people), or respiratory illness (3 studies; 7799 people).”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish they worked. I really do. But unfortunately trial after randomized trial show they don’t.

They don’t work for flu (decades of research shows that), they barely work for wildfire smoke (and they need to be n95 for that). Unfortunately the data shows they are not an effective mitigation measure. I wish this child the very very best and I hope the vaccine is effective for them, but asking others to wear masks for them isn’t doing anything to keep them safer.

Of course masks work. Stop spreading your disinformation.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/masks-work-distorting-science-to-dispute-the-evidence-doesnt/

No, the evidence is not there that school mask mandates work. The disabled child should wear an n95 if they want.