Getting rid of residential parking in Cleveland Park

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Anonymous wrote:Some, it seems, would be happy if every family in a single family home moved out to the suburbs. I am by no means wealthy, but I have a house with no driveway, and I park on the street. I don't purport to own the space in front of my house, but I pay for a zone sticker that generally allows me to park near home. If they put meters in all residential neighborhoods, I will have to move. Like it or not, I rely on a car to get to work, take my kids to certain activities, birthday parties, etc. I use it as little as possible, but I will move if I can't have a car here. Does DC want everyone in my situation to leave town?

Are you saying that if you had to pay more than $50 a year to park your vehicle on the street, you would move to Maryland or Virginia?

Are you purposefully misunderstanding the issue? You'd have to pay to park your car 24/7. That would easily be $20 a day. Multiply that by 365 and you are talking $7500 a year. Per Car. Or about the cost of a semester of tuition at University of Mary Washington. Shall we mock those that struggel to pay college debt instead?

That depends on how they metered it, no?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with shrinking the zones, but getting rid of parking in residential neighborhoods? I hope people would object to that. People can't feed the meters in front of their own homes all day.

There is no "right" to a free parking space in front of your home. It is public space and there should be a public benefit for ALL residents for those who use it.

I'm OK with rich gentrifiers feeding the meter in front of their home so the less fortunate in the city can finally eat. That's why I only have a bike you might want to try it sometime.

Do you even live here? The DC government is drowning in tax dollars paid almost entirely by rich people. Bicyclists can thank them for the *billions* of dollars the city has spent on biking infrastructure.

Or, they can thank the Federal DOT block grants, which more likely paid for them.

DOT block grants that are paid for …..wait for it…. the gas tax?

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Anonymous wrote:Some, it seems, would be happy if every family in a single family home moved out to the suburbs. I am by no means wealthy, but I have a house with no driveway, and I park on the street. I don't purport to own the space in front of my house, but I pay for a zone sticker that generally allows me to park near home. If they put meters in all residential neighborhoods, I will have to move. Like it or not, I rely on a car to get to work, take my kids to certain activities, birthday parties, etc. I use it as little as possible, but I will move if I can't have a car here. Does DC want everyone in my situation to leave town?

It is more likely that they would add meters but exempt the people who live on that block from feeding them. This isn't hard.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard a rumor that DDOT plans to get rid of residential parking on Macomb, Newark, and Ordway Streets and replace those spots with meters. This will make it extremely difficult for residents, many of whom do not have driveways. Does anyone have any details on this plan and how we can oppose it? This could be a pilot that is eventually implemented across the city.

I used to live on Ordway. Parking was always tight.

Sounds like the first step towards a 15 minute city where you won’t need a car.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with shrinking the zones, but getting rid of parking in residential neighborhoods? I hope people would object to that. People can't feed the meters in front of their own homes all day.

There is no "right" to a free parking space in front of your home. It is public space and there should be a public benefit for ALL residents for those who use it.

I'm OK with rich gentrifiers feeding the meter in front of their home so the less fortunate in the city can finally eat. That's why I only have a bike you might want to try it sometime.

Do you even live here? The DC government is drowning in tax dollars paid almost entirely by rich people. Bicyclists can thank them for the *billions* of dollars the city has spent on biking infrastructure.

Billions??? Lol.. wth man. You realize most of the $$ spent during a "cycling" project are going toward the repaying of the street that.. you know.. the heav-ass suvs and trucks destroy by simply driving on it, right? Paint and a little concrete (if applicable) isn't all that expensive.

Trucks that supply the businesses you frequent by bike?

Trucks can make their deliveries during off hours and from, in many cases, the rear alleys and parking areas.

They CAN but they don’t. Witness every part of downtown and U and H streets during the weekdays

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DDOT can go ahead and put up a meter in front of my house. It won’t last long. Accidents happen.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with shrinking the zones, but getting rid of parking in residential neighborhoods? I hope people would object to that. People can't feed the meters in front of their own homes all day.

There is no "right" to a free parking space in front of your home. It is public space and there should be a public benefit for ALL residents for those who use it.

No there should be priority given how much I pay in property tax relative to others

Given the property you bought doesn’t even have a parking pad, much less a garage, I doubt you pay as much as the rest of us that have both.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with shrinking the zones, but getting rid of parking in residential neighborhoods? I hope people would object to that. People can't feed the meters in front of their own homes all day.

There is no "right" to a free parking space in front of your home. It is public space and there should be a public benefit for ALL residents for those who use it.

I'm OK with rich gentrifiers feeding the meter in front of their home so the less fortunate in the city can finally eat. That's why I only have a bike you might want to try it sometime.

Do you even live here? The DC government is drowning in tax dollars paid almost entirely by rich people. Bicyclists can thank them for the *billions* of dollars the city has spent on biking infrastructure.

Billions??? Lol.. wth man. You realize most of the $$ spent during a "cycling" project are going toward the repaying of the street that.. you know.. the heav-ass suvs and trucks destroy by simply driving on it, right? Paint and a little concrete (if applicable) isn't all that expensive.

Stop surmising and look at the city’s budget. It spends billions on bike stuff. It would be cheaper to buy every cyclist in the city a Ferrari.

No, the city has not even come close to hundreds of millions on "bike stuff". Again, the allocation for a major streetscape project, which may or may not include bike lanes, is mostly the car part.

There’s $200M almost every single year in the budget for bicycle related things. This in a city where the number of cyclists is minuscule and one quarter of children live below the poverty line.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with shrinking the zones, but getting rid of parking in residential neighborhoods? I hope people would object to that. People can't feed the meters in front of their own homes all day.

There is no "right" to a free parking space in front of your home. It is public space and there should be a public benefit for ALL residents for those who use it.

I'm OK with rich gentrifiers feeding the meter in front of their home so the less fortunate in the city can finally eat. That's why I only have a bike you might want to try it sometime.

Do you even live here? The DC government is drowning in tax dollars paid almost entirely by rich people. Bicyclists can thank them for the *billions* of dollars the city has spent on biking infrastructure.

Billions??? Lol.. wth man. You realize most of the $$ spent during a "cycling" project are going toward the repaying of the street that.. you know.. the heav-ass suvs and trucks destroy by simply driving on it, right? Paint and a little concrete (if applicable) isn't all that expensive.

Stop surmising and look at the city’s budget. It spends billions on bike stuff. It would be cheaper to buy every cyclist in the city a Ferrari.

No, the city has not even come close to hundreds of millions on "bike stuff". Again, the allocation for a major streetscape project, which may or may not include bike lanes, is mostly the car part.

There’s $200M almost every single year in the budget for bicycle related things. This in a city where the number of cyclists is minuscule and one quarter of children live below the poverty line.

I really hope you don't drive. Your eyesight is apparently terrible.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with shrinking the zones, but getting rid of parking in residential neighborhoods? I hope people would object to that. People can't feed the meters in front of their own homes all day.

There is no "right" to a free parking space in front of your home. It is public space and there should be a public benefit for ALL residents for those who use it.

I'm OK with rich gentrifiers feeding the meter in front of their home so the less fortunate in the city can finally eat. That's why I only have a bike you might want to try it sometime.

Do you even live here? The DC government is drowning in tax dollars paid almost entirely by rich people. Bicyclists can thank them for the *billions* of dollars the city has spent on biking infrastructure.

Billions??? Lol.. wth man. You realize most of the $$ spent during a "cycling" project are going toward the repaying of the street that.. you know.. the heav-ass suvs and trucks destroy by simply driving on it, right? Paint and a little concrete (if applicable) isn't all that expensive.

Stop surmising and look at the city’s budget. It spends billions on bike stuff. It would be cheaper to buy every cyclist in the city a Ferrari.

No, the city has not even come close to hundreds of millions on "bike stuff". Again, the allocation for a major streetscape project, which may or may not include bike lanes, is mostly the car part.

There’s $200M almost every single year in the budget for bicycle related things. This in a city where the number of cyclists is minuscule and one quarter of children live below the poverty line.

I really hope you don't drive. Your eyesight is apparently terrible.

The number of people on bikes in this city is pathetically small. It’s embarrassing to have all these bike lanes and whatnot that hardly anyone uses.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with shrinking the zones, but getting rid of parking in residential neighborhoods? I hope people would object to that. People can't feed the meters in front of their own homes all day.

There is no "right" to a free parking space in front of your home. It is public space and there should be a public benefit for ALL residents for those who use it.

I'm OK with rich gentrifiers feeding the meter in front of their home so the less fortunate in the city can finally eat. That's why I only have a bike you might want to try it sometime.

Do you even live here? The DC government is drowning in tax dollars paid almost entirely by rich people. Bicyclists can thank them for the *billions* of dollars the city has spent on biking infrastructure.

Billions??? Lol.. wth man. You realize most of the $$ spent during a "cycling" project are going toward the repaying of the street that.. you know.. the heav-ass suvs and trucks destroy by simply driving on it, right? Paint and a little concrete (if applicable) isn't all that expensive.

Stop surmising and look at the city’s budget. It spends billions on bike stuff. It would be cheaper to buy every cyclist in the city a Ferrari.

No, the city has not even come close to hundreds of millions on "bike stuff". Again, the allocation for a major streetscape project, which may or may not include bike lanes, is mostly the car part.

There’s $200M almost every single year in the budget for bicycle related things. This in a city where the number of cyclists is minuscule and one quarter of children live below the poverty line.

I really hope you don't drive. Your eyesight is apparently terrible.

The number of people on bikes in this city is pathetically small. It’s embarrassing to have all these bike lanes and whatnot that hardly anyone uses.

Seriously. I hope your kids turn you in to the DMV. You can't see well enough to drive.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a great idea. Metered parking for EVERYONE would be the most equitable. No more free lunch for rich folks in million dollar mansions when there is so much need across the city.

How exactly are we getting a free lunch? Do you not understand that our property taxes fund the city?

Your property taxes pay for your house, not the road in front of you. If you want to rent space on the public road to park your car, you should pay up. Regular middle class DC taxpayers should not be subsidizing rich city dwellers like you so you can warehouse your oversize Mercedes SUVs on public property for free.

Thanks but I have a driveway. And 4 cars.

Do all 4 cars fit in your driveway, or do you store some of your cars elsewhere?

Don’t people who make more money pay more income taxes and “subsidize” public goods like infrastructure and schools?

No, rich people don't "subsidize" public goods. Taxes are not charity.

Sure but rich people pay for everything in this city. The government would be up a river without them

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some, it seems, would be happy if every family in a single family home moved out to the suburbs. I am by no means wealthy, but I have a house with no driveway, and I park on the street. I don't purport to own the space in front of my house, but I pay for a zone sticker that generally allows me to park near home. If they put meters in all residential neighborhoods, I will have to move. Like it or not, I rely on a car to get to work, take my kids to certain activities, birthday parties, etc. I use it as little as possible, but I will move if I can't have a car here. Does DC want everyone in my situation to leave town?

It is more likely that they would add meters but exempt the people who live on that block from feeding them. This isn't hard.

SMH

The premise of the thread is that metered parking would apply to everyone, incl those who live on the block.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with shrinking the zones, but getting rid of parking in residential neighborhoods? I hope people would object to that. People can't feed the meters in front of their own homes all day.

There is no "right" to a free parking space in front of your home. It is public space and there should be a public benefit for ALL residents for those who use it.

I'm OK with rich gentrifiers feeding the meter in front of their home so the less fortunate in the city can finally eat. That's why I only have a bike you might want to try it sometime.

Do you even live here? The DC government is drowning in tax dollars paid almost entirely by rich people. Bicyclists can thank them for the *billions* of dollars the city has spent on biking infrastructure.

Billions??? Lol.. wth man. You realize most of the $$ spent during a "cycling" project are going toward the repaying of the street that.. you know.. the heav-ass suvs and trucks destroy by simply driving on it, right? Paint and a little concrete (if applicable) isn't all that expensive.

Trucks that supply the businesses you frequent by bike?

Trucks can make their deliveries during off hours and from, in many cases, the rear alleys and parking areas.

Trucks will still drive on the streets which is what the previous previous PP’s problem was. Oh, and all the urban F150 drivers.

That PP is trying to make point and refuses to see that driving and parking are two different things.

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Anonymous wrote:Some, it seems, would be happy if every family in a single family home moved out to the suburbs. I am by no means wealthy, but I have a house with no driveway, and I park on the street. I don't purport to own the space in front of my house, but I pay for a zone sticker that generally allows me to park near home. If they put meters in all residential neighborhoods, I will have to move. Like it or not, I rely on a car to get to work, take my kids to certain activities, birthday parties, etc. I use it as little as possible, but I will move if I can't have a car here. Does DC want everyone in my situation to leave town?

It is more likely that they would add meters but exempt the people who live on that block from feeding them. This isn't hard.

SMH

The premise of the thread is that metered parking would apply to everyone, incl those who live on the block.

the premise of the thread is an unfounded rumor that turned up on a neighborhood listserv