Superfresh AU Park - Spring Valley

[Anonymous]

That’s helpful.

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So weird that Frumin isn’t pushing for affordable/low income housing here. Why is he letting Connecticut Ave have all the fun? Weird.

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Anonymous wrote:So weird that Frumin isn’t pushing for affordable/low income housing here. Why is he letting Connecticut Ave have all the fun? Weird.

uh, he lives two blocks away from the Superfresh. He does not want low income housing in his backyard.

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Anonymous wrote:So weird that Frumin isn’t pushing for affordable/low income housing here. Why is he letting Connecticut Ave have all the fun? Weird.

uh, he lives two blocks away from the Superfresh. He does not want low income housing in his backyard.

But what if Bill changed his mind and wants to be neighbors now?

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Do any lawyers know or have an idea of how long it should take for the Appeals court to decline an en bank hearing?

https://efile.dcappeals.gov/public/caseView.do;jsessionid=8615EDF82645F60E8D88694C64995128?csIID=64719

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Anonymous wrote:So weird that Frumin isn’t pushing for affordable/low income housing here. Why is he letting Connecticut Ave have all the fun? Weird.

What a weird comment.

Frumin wasn't on the ANC when they dealt with the application but it was a privately owned piece of land so hence there really wasn't a way for anyone to press for low income housing on the site aside from suggesting that DC purchase and develop the property.

[Anonymous]

After 10 years, the four neighbors (from Wesley Heights and spring valley) have finally lost all legal options. Hopefully Valor can get lending and start soon! https://dc.urbanturf.com/articles/blog/219-unit_development_planned_for_au_park_superfresh_site_can_finally_move_f/22151

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Anonymous wrote:After 10 years, the four neighbors (from Wesley Heights and spring valley) have finally lost all legal options. Hopefully Valor can get lending and start soon! https://dc.urbanturf.com/articles/blog/219-unit_development_planned_for_au_park_superfresh_site_can_finally_move_f/22151

Do they even live here anymore? I guess there was no accountability, but they at least had to pay attorney fees?

[Anonymous]

I really hope the grocery store is a Moms or a whole foods or something similar.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:After 10 years, the four neighbors (from Wesley Heights and spring valley) have finally lost all legal options. Hopefully Valor can get lending and start soon! https://dc.urbanturf.com/articles/blog/219-unit_development_planned_for_au_park_superfresh_site_can_finally_move_f/22151

Do they even live here anymore? I guess there was no accountability, but they at least had to pay attorney fees?

Some of them still do but they finally took down their signs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So weird that Frumin isn’t pushing for affordable/low income housing here. Why is he letting Connecticut Ave have all the fun? Weird.

uh, he lives two blocks away from the Superfresh. He does not want low income housing in his backyard.

Doesn't he want Ward 3 to be "welcoming to all"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So weird that Frumin isn’t pushing for affordable/low income housing here. Why is he letting Connecticut Ave have all the fun? Weird.

What a weird comment.

Frumin wasn't on the ANC when they dealt with the application but it was a privately owned piece of land so hence there really wasn't a way for anyone to press for low income housing on the site aside from suggesting that DC purchase and develop the property.

Montgomery County would require that at least 15 percent of the units in a similar-sized project be "inclusionary zoning" (not really "affordable" but more affordable than market). In DC, the IZ requirement is a paltry 8 percent, because the DC government is a captive regulator where the development sector is concerned. Anyone who believes that DC will build its way to "affordable" housing through such a minimal IZ requirement in market-rate development is delusional.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s more discussion of the history here

https://thedcline.org/2019/07/11/nearly-4-years-after-initial-presentation-lady-bird-project-in-au-park-still-struggling-to-take-flight-at-former-superfresh-site/

The fact that this is from 2019 and we're still stuck with an empty lot and store is so sad. I know there was a whole pandemic going on - but still.

It's been vacant since 2013!!

No wonder developers won't touch Tenleytown now and it's a mess of abandoned storefronts and fast casual chains. The NIMBYs started with the complaints and concessions in 2015, and still sued in the end.

From 2015 Urban Turf article https://dc.urbanturf.com/articles/blog/200_or_250_residences_the_two_options_presented_for_au_park_superfresh/10408/

"One of the biggest community concerns voiced at the meeting was the fear that the development would further urbanize the area and potentially lower property values. Many in attendance seconded one long-time resident’s statement that 'if it looks like Bethesda, it’s not gonna work', agreeing that 'we live in AU Park' and moved there for the suburban feel of the community.

Residents would like more details and renderings of the site proposals, including fleshed-out versions of the matter-of-right simulations, direct comparisons of the proposed development to existing projects in the District, and explorations of more neighborhood-oriented market options rather than a big-name grocer, before they commit their support."

So they think that looking like Bethesda, by far the nicest and most valuable suburban neighborhood in the DC area, will make their neighborhood character LESS appealing and suburban?

This made me laugh out loud. People pay double for homes in Spring Valley and it’s filled with chemicals and toxins. Of course they don’t want a Bethesda vibe.

Most of Bethesda doesn't have a "Bethesda vibe." In fact, even in downtown Bethesda, there's a pretty clear dividing line at Arlington Road, where to the west it's low-scale and largely single family homes. Similarly, a block or so to the east of Wisconsin, the height and density drops sharply. I can see more development on the major avenues in DC, but understand why neighbors don't want higher rise buildings on low-density residential streets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So weird that Frumin isn’t pushing for affordable/low income housing here. Why is he letting Connecticut Ave have all the fun? Weird.

But will the Lady Bird have pickle ball ?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So weird that Frumin isn’t pushing for affordable/low income housing here. Why is he letting Connecticut Ave have all the fun? Weird.

But will the Lady Bird have pickle ball ?!

Noooooooooo!