Would you pull your kids if you found out something offensive in your school's history?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a bit amused because for all the attention on segregation academies, Northern private schools boomed following the busing desegregation of northern school districts too and/or suburban flights turning urban districts majority black .... so...

All over the United States. Anywhere a significant number of both Blacks and whites were, majority of whites were not happy about integration.

Levittowns popped up to avoid the integration and public schools fought to avoid it as well. A county in Virginia closed public schools for almost 10 years because they wouldn’t integrate. It’s not fair to drag a school because they established at a time that private schools was profitable because racist whites didn’t want to intergrate. I’d rather you condemn the schools that are currently racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a bit amused because for all the attention on segregation academies, Northern private schools boomed following the busing desegregation of northern school districts too and/or suburban flights turning urban districts majority black .... so...

All over the United States. Anywhere a significant number of both Blacks and whites were, majority of whites were not happy about integration.

Levittowns popped up to avoid the integration and public schools fought to avoid it as well. A county in Virginia closed public schools for almost 10 years because they wouldn’t integrate. It’s not fair to drag a school because they established at a time that private schools was profitable because racist whites didn’t want to intergrate. I’d rather you condemn the schools that are currently racist.

Levittowns has nothing to do with what you're talking about. They were mass produced cheap new suburbs and were not built to avoid desegregation. There's also only four Levittowns, and one is in Puerto Rico.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a bit amused because for all the attention on segregation academies, Northern private schools boomed following the busing desegregation of northern school districts too and/or suburban flights turning urban districts majority black .... so...

All over the United States. Anywhere a significant number of both Blacks and whites were, majority of whites were not happy about integration.

Levittowns popped up to avoid the integration and public schools fought to avoid it as well. A county in Virginia closed public schools for almost 10 years because they wouldn’t integrate. It’s not fair to drag a school because they established at a time that private schools was profitable because racist whites didn’t want to intergrate. I’d rather you condemn the schools that are currently racist.

Levittowns has nothing to do with what you're talking about. They were mass produced cheap new suburbs and were not built to avoid desegregation. There's also only four Levittowns, and one is in Puerto Rico.

Yes, they were. They specifically prohibited AAs from buying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do not pull your kids out of a school they’re happy at for something that happened before they were born.

Yes.

And yes, boarding schools, by their very nature, were prone to abuses in the past (and you need to be careful about abuses in the present). This is nothing surprising either.

No reason to pull your kids out if they're happy and safe.

I agree with the above. You live in the South. Hard to avoid very awful things that happened in the past... Focus on what is happening there NOW. If your kids are happy and thriving and that is the only school option you feel/know they could get a good education then I would never consider switching. HOWEVER I would be very mindful and purposeful to make sure I am including things in my family life that demonstrate inclusivity and an acknowledgment of past history and how that has negatively affected African Americans. I would not leave these conversations and actions up to the school. I mean that you make a point to have a lifestyle that includes others who appear "different" from you in your social circle, I would not join a country club that is predominately white for instance, and learn about that part of history as a family, as age appropriate.

Virginia is in the south. Most people just forget that.

In fact, Virginia has the absolute worst history of school desegregation and has the distinction of being the only place in the entire US where a country closed schools long term [5 years] rather than integrate. The previous Wikipedia link about segregation academies explains it. What the state of VA did to ensure integration didn't happen is truly appalling. People living in NoVa are largely ignorant of the history of the state.

Flint Hill in Fairfax, VA is one of the schools that came out of the massive resistance and was supported by tuition grants provided by the state - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_Hill_School

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do not pull your kids out of a school they’re happy at for something that happened before they were born.

Yes.

And yes, boarding schools, by their very nature, were prone to abuses in the past (and you need to be careful about abuses in the present). This is nothing surprising either.

No reason to pull your kids out if they're happy and safe.

I agree with the above. You live in the South. Hard to avoid very awful things that happened in the past... Focus on what is happening there NOW. If your kids are happy and thriving and that is the only school option you feel/know they could get a good education then I would never consider switching. HOWEVER I would be very mindful and purposeful to make sure I am including things in my family life that demonstrate inclusivity and an acknowledgment of past history and how that has negatively affected African Americans. I would not leave these conversations and actions up to the school. I mean that you make a point to have a lifestyle that includes others who appear "different" from you in your social circle, I would not join a country club that is predominately white for instance, and learn about that part of history as a family, as age appropriate.

Virginia is in the south. Most people just forget that.

In fact, Virginia has the absolute worst history of school desegregation and has the distinction of being the only place in the entire US where a country closed schools long term [5 years] rather than integrate. The previous Wikipedia link about segregation academies explains it. What the state of VA did to ensure integration didn't happen is truly appalling. People living in NoVa are largely ignorant of the history of the state.

Flint Hill in Fairfax, VA is one of the schools that came out of the massive resistance and was supported by tuition grants provided by the state - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_Hill_School

I wonder if the students in that County received any reparations for the long term effect of missing of missing school for 5 years? Probably not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do not pull your kids out of a school they’re happy at for something that happened before they were born.

Yes.

And yes, boarding schools, by their very nature, were prone to abuses in the past (and you need to be careful about abuses in the present). This is nothing surprising either.

No reason to pull your kids out if they're happy and safe.

I agree with the above. You live in the South. Hard to avoid very awful things that happened in the past... Focus on what is happening there NOW. If your kids are happy and thriving and that is the only school option you feel/know they could get a good education then I would never consider switching. HOWEVER I would be very mindful and purposeful to make sure I am including things in my family life that demonstrate inclusivity and an acknowledgment of past history and how that has negatively affected African Americans. I would not leave these conversations and actions up to the school. I mean that you make a point to have a lifestyle that includes others who appear "different" from you in your social circle, I would not join a country club that is predominately white for instance, and learn about that part of history as a family, as age appropriate.

Virginia is in the south. Most people just forget that.

In fact, Virginia has the absolute worst history of school desegregation and has the distinction of being the only place in the entire US where a country closed schools long term [5 years] rather than integrate. The previous Wikipedia link about segregation academies explains it. What the state of VA did to ensure integration didn't happen is truly appalling. People living in NoVa are largely ignorant of the history of the state.

Flint Hill in Fairfax, VA is one of the schools that came out of the massive resistance and was supported by tuition grants provided by the state - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_Hill_School

There are more than a few Va private schools that were founded in the 1971-73 period. Many of them have done impressive gymnastics to try to mask WHY they were founded during that time period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a bit amused because for all the attention on segregation academies, Northern private schools boomed following the busing desegregation of northern school districts too and/or suburban flights turning urban districts majority black .... so...

All over the United States. Anywhere a significant number of both Blacks and whites were, majority of whites were not happy about integration.

Levittowns popped up to avoid the integration and public schools fought to avoid it as well. A county in Virginia closed public schools for almost 10 years because they wouldn’t integrate. It’s not fair to drag a school because they established at a time that private schools was profitable because racist whites didn’t want to intergrate. I’d rather you condemn the schools that are currently racist.

Levittowns has nothing to do with what you're talking about. They were mass produced cheap new suburbs and were not built to avoid desegregation. There's also only four Levittowns, and one is in Puerto Rico.

Yes, they were. They specifically prohibited AAs from buying.

So did just about all new suburbs. Levittowns were built specifically to provide affordable suburban housing for people leaving cramped apartments in the cities. They were not different in that regard. But they were not built to avoid black buyers or to be sanctuaries for people fleeing black neighborhoods. Distinct difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do not pull your kids out of a school they’re happy at for something that happened before they were born.

Yes.

And yes, boarding schools, by their very nature, were prone to abuses in the past (and you need to be careful about abuses in the present). This is nothing surprising either.

No reason to pull your kids out if they're happy and safe.

I agree with the above. You live in the South. Hard to avoid very awful things that happened in the past... Focus on what is happening there NOW. If your kids are happy and thriving and that is the only school option you feel/know they could get a good education then I would never consider switching. HOWEVER I would be very mindful and purposeful to make sure I am including things in my family life that demonstrate inclusivity and an acknowledgment of past history and how that has negatively affected African Americans. I would not leave these conversations and actions up to the school. I mean that you make a point to have a lifestyle that includes others who appear "different" from you in your social circle, I would not join a country club that is predominately white for instance, and learn about that part of history as a family, as age appropriate.

Virginia is in the south. Most people just forget that.

In fact, Virginia has the absolute worst history of school desegregation and has the distinction of being the only place in the entire US where a country closed schools long term [5 years] rather than integrate. The previous Wikipedia link about segregation academies explains it. What the state of VA did to ensure integration didn't happen is truly appalling. People living in NoVa are largely ignorant of the history of the state.

Flint Hill in Fairfax, VA is one of the schools that came out of the massive resistance and was supported by tuition grants provided by the state - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_Hill_School

There are more than a few Va private schools that were founded in the 1971-73 period. Many of them have done impressive gymnastics to try to mask WHY they were founded during that time period.

not just Virginia. What year’s were the Heights and Mater Die founded? They both have far less Blacks than the most of the other schools talked about on DCUM. Maybe it’s just coincidence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a bit amused because for all the attention on segregation academies, Northern private schools boomed following the busing desegregation of northern school districts too and/or suburban flights turning urban districts majority black .... so...

All over the United States. Anywhere a significant number of both Blacks and whites were, majority of whites were not happy about integration.

Levittowns popped up to avoid the integration and public schools fought to avoid it as well. A county in Virginia closed public schools for almost 10 years because they wouldn’t integrate. It’s not fair to drag a school because they established at a time that private schools was profitable because racist whites didn’t want to intergrate. I’d rather you condemn the schools that are currently racist.

Levittowns has nothing to do with what you're talking about. They were mass produced cheap new suburbs and were not built to avoid desegregation. There's also only four Levittowns, and one is in Puerto Rico.

Yes, they were. They specifically prohibited AAs from buying.

That’s worlds different from the reason they were built.

That you can’t see that is amazing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a bit amused because for all the attention on segregation academies, Northern private schools boomed following the busing desegregation of northern school districts too and/or suburban flights turning urban districts majority black .... so...

All over the United States. Anywhere a significant number of both Blacks and whites were, majority of whites were not happy about integration.

Levittowns popped up to avoid the integration and public schools fought to avoid it as well. A county in Virginia closed public schools for almost 10 years because they wouldn’t integrate. It’s not fair to drag a school because they established at a time that private schools was profitable because racist whites didn’t want to intergrate. I’d rather you condemn the schools that are currently racist.

Levittowns has nothing to do with what you're talking about. They were mass produced cheap new suburbs and were not built to avoid desegregation. There's also only four Levittowns, and one is in Puerto Rico.

Yes, they were. They specifically prohibited AAs from buying.

That’s worlds different from the reason they were built.

That you can’t see that is amazing.

Well even on the Wikipedia page it specifically says they were built for white veterans. The developers would not sell to Blacks and when the Myers family purchased a home second hand they were victims of violent crimes and other acts of hate by white supremacists.
Not only is it why there built, when Blacks tried to move in all h**l broke loose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do not pull your kids out of a school they’re happy at for something that happened before they were born.

Yes.

And yes, boarding schools, by their very nature, were prone to abuses in the past (and you need to be careful about abuses in the present). This is nothing surprising either.

No reason to pull your kids out if they're happy and safe.

I agree with the above. You live in the South. Hard to avoid very awful things that happened in the past... Focus on what is happening there NOW. If your kids are happy and thriving and that is the only school option you feel/know they could get a good education then I would never consider switching. HOWEVER I would be very mindful and purposeful to make sure I am including things in my family life that demonstrate inclusivity and an acknowledgment of past history and how that has negatively affected African Americans. I would not leave these conversations and actions up to the school. I mean that you make a point to have a lifestyle that includes others who appear "different" from you in your social circle, I would not join a country club that is predominately white for instance, and learn about that part of history as a family, as age appropriate.

Virginia is in the south. Most people just forget that.

In fact, Virginia has the absolute worst history of school desegregation and has the distinction of being the only place in the entire US where a country closed schools long term [5 years] rather than integrate. The previous Wikipedia link about segregation academies explains it. What the state of VA did to ensure integration didn't happen is truly appalling. People living in NoVa are largely ignorant of the history of the state.

Flint Hill in Fairfax, VA is one of the schools that came out of the massive resistance and was supported by tuition grants provided by the state - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_Hill_School

I wonder if the students in that County received any reparations for the long term effect of missing of missing school for 5 years? Probably not.

Sadly no. Some poor families - white and black - would send their kids to live with relatives so they could continue with school. No relatives to take a kid in = no school for the kid. Well off white families attended a private school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Levittowns has nothing to do with what you're talking about. They were mass produced cheap new suburbs and were not built to avoid desegregation. There's also only four Levittowns, and one is in Puerto Rico.

Yes, they were. They specifically prohibited AAs from buying.

So did just about all new suburbs. Levittowns were built specifically to provide affordable suburban housing for people leaving cramped apartments in the cities. They were not different in that regard. But they were not built to avoid black buyers or to be sanctuaries for people fleeing black neighborhoods. Distinct difference.

But they were - they were built to NOT be sold to Black buyers. They were specifically designed to be suburbs for White families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Levittowns has nothing to do with what you're talking about. They were mass produced cheap new suburbs and were not built to avoid desegregation. There's also only four Levittowns, and one is in Puerto Rico.

Yes, they were. They specifically prohibited AAs from buying.

So did just about all new suburbs. Levittowns were built specifically to provide affordable suburban housing for people leaving cramped apartments in the cities. They were not different in that regard. But they were not built to avoid black buyers or to be sanctuaries for people fleeing black neighborhoods. Distinct difference.

But they were - they were built to NOT be sold to Black buyers. They were specifically designed to be suburbs for White families.

The US in those days existed for white people. White Americas, for the most part, did not think about black people except to make sure they didn't live near black people (easy when the population was 85% white and 15% black and the latter heavily concentrated in a few key areas). What you are missing is that the purpose of Levittowns wasn't to be an all white neighborhood. They were not distinctive in that regard because most white neighborhoods were by default, whether through custom or real estate practice or economics or legal, all white neighborhoods. If there were 20 reasons why the Levittowns were built, one out of the 20 would be to avoid living near blacks. But they were not built specifically to avoid blacks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do not pull your kids out of a school they’re happy at for something that happened before they were born.

Yes.

And yes, boarding schools, by their very nature, were prone to abuses in the past (and you need to be careful about abuses in the present). This is nothing surprising either.

No reason to pull your kids out if they're happy and safe.

I agree with the above. You live in the South. Hard to avoid very awful things that happened in the past... Focus on what is happening there NOW. If your kids are happy and thriving and that is the only school option you feel/know they could get a good education then I would never consider switching. HOWEVER I would be very mindful and purposeful to make sure I am including things in my family life that demonstrate inclusivity and an acknowledgment of past history and how that has negatively affected African Americans. I would not leave these conversations and actions up to the school. I mean that you make a point to have a lifestyle that includes others who appear "different" from you in your social circle, I would not join a country club that is predominately white for instance, and learn about that part of history as a family, as age appropriate.

Virginia is in the south. Most people just forget that.

In fact, Virginia has the absolute worst history of school desegregation and has the distinction of being the only place in the entire US where a country closed schools long term [5 years] rather than integrate. The previous Wikipedia link about segregation academies explains it. What the state of VA did to ensure integration didn't happen is truly appalling. People living in NoVa are largely ignorant of the history of the state.

Flint Hill in Fairfax, VA is one of the schools that came out of the massive resistance and was supported by tuition grants provided by the state - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_Hill_School

The current iteration of Flint Hill began in 1990. Only the name is the same.

[Anonymous]

Just move this thread to Politics and OpEd where it belongs.