Marc Elrich…….told you so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In case the point isn't clear enough to you, the math and the politics for funding schools doesn't work if we keep adding an outsized share of low-income kids.

Concentrated poverty is terrible for schools. We have numerous elementary schools with 70-80% FARMS rates. To nobody's surprise, the higher income people in those neighborhoods tend to choose private. While some of that I'm sure has to do with racism, it's also a rational choice given what we know about the impacts of concentrated poverty on education.

This is not sustainable, and I don't know how folks don't see this.

It’s racist to not want your kids to be left behind due to large populations of poor kids from other countries? Publics in liberal counties want to eliminate parent rights for just this reason.

You really needed to get your xenophobic rant on somehow didn't you?

Says the person who doesn’t want to live with THEM

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In case the point isn't clear enough to you, the math and the politics for funding schools doesn't work if we keep adding an outsized share of low-income kids.

Concentrated poverty is terrible for schools. We have numerous elementary schools with 70-80% FARMS rates. To nobody's surprise, the higher income people in those neighborhoods tend to choose private. While some of that I'm sure has to do with racism, it's also a rational choice given what we know about the impacts of concentrated poverty on education.

This is not sustainable, and I don't know how folks don't see this.

It’s racist to not want your kids to be left behind due to large populations of poor kids from other countries? Publics in liberal counties want to eliminate parent rights for just this reason.

Most of these kids are actually poor kids from this country. Their parents are immigrants, just like one of my parents and three of my grandparents were immigrants.

Your parents came here legally, more than likely. What’s going on now at the border is not constitutionally legal.

PP you're responding to, and actually, two of my grandparents did not come here legally.

However, if you want to be a person who says that people who were born here are not really American, go right ahead, I guess. Better to speak and remove all doubt about being a fool, than to remain silent and merely be thought a fool.

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Anonymous wrote:And thanks to taxes we have better services than many other places.

Suits me.

Are the services in MoCo actually any better than Fairfax? The school systems seem pretty similar. No apparent differences in police or fire or roads. They actually have a better county park system with lots of youth fields, much better than ours. What are we getting for all these extra taxes?

First I'd like you to demonstrate that the total tax burden is higher in Montgomery County than in Fairfax County.

It's not even close for my family. We moved to Fairfax a couple years ago and our total taxes (income, property, and car tax) went down by over $10k per year. The Fairfax property tax rate is a bit higher than MoCo's (although they will be about the same next year because MoCo's looks like it's going up while Fairfax is cutting theirs), and MoCo/MD has much higher income taxes. The car tax in VA doesn't come close to offsetting that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And thanks to taxes we have better services than many other places.

Suits me.

Are the services in MoCo actually any better than Fairfax? The school systems seem pretty similar. No apparent differences in police or fire or roads. They actually have a better county park system with lots of youth fields, much better than ours. What are we getting for all these extra taxes?

First I'd like you to demonstrate that the total tax burden is higher in Montgomery County than in Fairfax County.

It's not even close for my family. We moved to Fairfax a couple years ago and our total taxes (income, property, and car tax) went down by over $10k per year. The Fairfax property tax rate is a bit higher than MoCo's (although they will be about the same next year because MoCo's looks like it's going up while Fairfax is cutting theirs), and MoCo/MD has much higher income taxes. The car tax in VA doesn't come close to offsetting that.

Well, then, we're all glad that you moved to Fairfax!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And thanks to taxes we have better services than many other places.

Suits me.

Are the services in MoCo actually any better than Fairfax? The school systems seem pretty similar. No apparent differences in police or fire or roads. They actually have a better county park system with lots of youth fields, much better than ours. What are we getting for all these extra taxes?

Fairfax has money because they have actual job growth there.

MoCo thinks it can build wealth by providing services to poor people but unfortunately it doesn't work that way. We have no job growth and poor people living in slums.

DP.. there is no job growth, yet, I see a lot of $850K+ townhomes being built left and right around here. Are poor people renting these expensive TH?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the PP is on to something and this is why the Democratic Central Committee in MoCo was sounding the alarm. They will be crushed in the next election and will really miss the days of David Blair.

VA used to be VERY red so the choice was easier. But now it's purple, their schools are better and their jobs and taxation are better. It's a no-brainer. No amount of tree canopy in Bethesda can stand the steady tax increases .

I would love to see Montgomery county become purple. It needs balance.

Agree 100%. Sensible moderate here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the PP is on to something and this is why the Democratic Central Committee in MoCo was sounding the alarm. They will be crushed in the next election and will really miss the days of David Blair.

VA used to be VERY red so the choice was easier. But now it's purple, their schools are better and their jobs and taxation are better. It's a no-brainer. No amount of tree canopy in Bethesda can stand the steady tax increases .

I would love to see Montgomery county become purple. It needs balance.

Agree 100%. Sensible moderate here.

Yes and no. I don’t think it would be desirable or possible for MoCo to become “purple” in that it’s actually a swing county that could vote for a Trump Republican or even a Youngkin Republican. I would however like it if we went back to the 90s when we elected moderates like Connie Morella and Doug Duncan, not leftwing whackadoos like Elrich, Mink, and Jawando.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the PP is on to something and this is why the Democratic Central Committee in MoCo was sounding the alarm. They will be crushed in the next election and will really miss the days of David Blair.

VA used to be VERY red so the choice was easier. But now it's purple, their schools are better and their jobs and taxation are better. It's a no-brainer. No amount of tree canopy in Bethesda can stand the steady tax increases .

I would love to see Montgomery county become purple. It needs balance.

Good luck.

David Blair was the best chance and came blisteringly close but honestly it should have been a hands down blowout in his favor.

Reardon Sullivan would have been a nice alternative and I don’t think the council would have let his right wing culture war views to get anywhere, it would just be a good pro-business balance like Hogan. But voters chose Elrich over him 75%.

Montgomery County conservatives and moderates just don’t vote. They are not engaged, not organized, and they don’t vote. The voting electorate has a far-left mind virus. And it’s getting worse with more self-sorting. Pro-business-minded people are leaving the county, and those who move here are either poor and seeking government handouts, or deluded leftists seeking a Marxist utopia. Well good luck with your workers paradise. The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other peoples money.

The dumbest thing Rs in MoCo can do is vote for a R in the general. What Rs should do is switch to Dem and vote in the D primary. Otherwise, the R vote is a throw away here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the PP is on to something and this is why the Democratic Central Committee in MoCo was sounding the alarm. They will be crushed in the next election and will really miss the days of David Blair.

VA used to be VERY red so the choice was easier. But now it's purple, their schools are better and their jobs and taxation are better. It's a no-brainer. No amount of tree canopy in Bethesda can stand the steady tax increases .

I would love to see Montgomery county become purple. It needs balance.

Good luck.

David Blair was the best chance and came blisteringly close but honestly it should have been a hands down blowout in his favor.

Reardon Sullivan would have been a nice alternative and I don’t think the council would have let his right wing culture war views to get anywhere, it would just be a good pro-business balance like Hogan. But voters chose Elrich over him 75%.

Montgomery County conservatives and moderates just don’t vote. They are not engaged, not organized, and they don’t vote. The voting electorate has a far-left mind virus. And it’s getting worse with more self-sorting. Pro-business-minded people are leaving the county, and those who move here are either poor and seeking government handouts, or deluded leftists seeking a Marxist utopia. Well good luck with your workers paradise. The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other peoples money.

The dumbest thing Rs in MoCo can do is vote for a R in the general. What Rs should do is switch to Dem and vote in the D primary. Otherwise, the R vote is a throw away here.

But you can not vote in the Primary for County Exec if they are registered Republican or Independent. It is easy to switch for an election — just go on the DMV website. Most people won’t do this I guess because they feel compromised, but it ends up in their voice not being heard. We are not talking about reproductive rights or anything like that, just a more balanced government at the very local level that truly impacts our lives. It is too lopsided otherwise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In case the point isn't clear enough to you, the math and the politics for funding schools doesn't work if we keep adding an outsized share of low-income kids.

Concentrated poverty is terrible for schools. We have numerous elementary schools with 70-80% FARMS rates. To nobody's surprise, the higher income people in those neighborhoods tend to choose private. While some of that I'm sure has to do with racism, it's also a rational choice given what we know about the impacts of concentrated poverty on education.

This is not sustainable, and I don't know how folks don't see this.

It’s racist to not want your kids to be left behind due to large populations of poor kids from other countries? Publics in liberal counties want to eliminate parent rights for just this reason.

You really needed to get your xenophobic rant on somehow didn't you?

Says the person who doesn’t want to live with THEM

I don't know wtf you are talking about, I live about 200 yards away from a subsidized apartment building

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And thanks to taxes we have better services than many other places.

Suits me.

Are the services in MoCo actually any better than Fairfax? The school systems seem pretty similar. No apparent differences in police or fire or roads. They actually have a better county park system with lots of youth fields, much better than ours. What are we getting for all these extra taxes?

First I'd like you to demonstrate that the total tax burden is higher in Montgomery County than in Fairfax County.

It's not even close for my family. We moved to Fairfax a couple years ago and our total taxes (income, property, and car tax) went down by over $10k per year. The Fairfax property tax rate is a bit higher than MoCo's (although they will be about the same next year because MoCo's looks like it's going up while Fairfax is cutting theirs), and MoCo/MD has much higher income taxes. The car tax in VA doesn't come close to offsetting that.

Same. Except we moved here from Fairfax and my husband had a fit over how much more in taxes we are paying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And thanks to taxes we have better services than many other places.

Suits me.

Are the services in MoCo actually any better than Fairfax? The school systems seem pretty similar. No apparent differences in police or fire or roads. They actually have a better county park system with lots of youth fields, much better than ours. What are we getting for all these extra taxes?

Fairfax has money because they have actual job growth there.

MoCo thinks it can build wealth by providing services to poor people but unfortunately it doesn't work that way. We have no job growth and poor people living in slums.

DP.. there is no job growth, yet, I see a lot of $850K+ townhomes being built left and right around here. Are poor people renting these expensive TH?

they are living here but not working here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And thanks to taxes we have better services than many other places.

Suits me.

Are the services in MoCo actually any better than Fairfax? The school systems seem pretty similar. No apparent differences in police or fire or roads. They actually have a better county park system with lots of youth fields, much better than ours. What are we getting for all these extra taxes?

First I'd like you to demonstrate that the total tax burden is higher in Montgomery County than in Fairfax County.

It's not even close for my family. We moved to Fairfax a couple years ago and our total taxes (income, property, and car tax) went down by over $10k per year. The Fairfax property tax rate is a bit higher than MoCo's (although they will be about the same next year because MoCo's looks like it's going up while Fairfax is cutting theirs), and MoCo/MD has much higher income taxes. The car tax in VA doesn't come close to offsetting that.

Well, then, we're all glad that you moved to Fairfax!

Me too. I like paying less for better services. But you do you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And thanks to taxes we have better services than many other places.

Suits me.

Are the services in MoCo actually any better than Fairfax? The school systems seem pretty similar. No apparent differences in police or fire or roads. They actually have a better county park system with lots of youth fields, much better than ours. What are we getting for all these extra taxes?

Fairfax has money because they have actual job growth there.

MoCo thinks it can build wealth by providing services to poor people but unfortunately it doesn't work that way. We have no job growth and poor people living in slums.

DP.. there is no job growth, yet, I see a lot of $850K+ townhomes being built left and right around here. Are poor people renting these expensive TH?

they are living here but not working here.

+1 most households use more in services than they pay in taxes

We need jobs here to bring in revenue. Also if people have jobs they don't need as many subsidies. Win win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In case the point isn't clear enough to you, the math and the politics for funding schools doesn't work if we keep adding an outsized share of low-income kids.

Concentrated poverty is terrible for schools. We have numerous elementary schools with 70-80% FARMS rates. To nobody's surprise, the higher income people in those neighborhoods tend to choose private. While some of that I'm sure has to do with racism, it's also a rational choice given what we know about the impacts of concentrated poverty on education.

This is not sustainable, and I don't know how folks don't see this.

It’s racist to not want your kids to be left behind due to large populations of poor kids from other countries? Publics in liberal counties want to eliminate parent rights for just this reason.

You really needed to get your xenophobic rant on somehow didn't you?

Says the person who doesn’t want to live with THEM

I don't know wtf you are talking about, I live about 200 yards away from a subsidized apartment building

Move in the building. Then we can talk