City people... when is enough enough re: crime

[Anonymous]

Shoplifting is just do-it-yourself reparations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shoplifting is just do-it-yourself reparations.

You jest, but this seems to be what many progressives in this city implicitly believe.

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Anonymous wrote:You leave and don’t look back. DC government has demonstrated it doesn’t care. It would take significant changes for things to change. Maybe in 20 years. There are too many other places to live where you don’t have to worry about this amount of crime.

Not OP but the problem for me is that I don't agree this is true. Everything is a trade off. Sure, I can move somewhere with a lot less crime, but add an hour to my commute daily and lose the same sense of community I have where I am. I like that I can walk/bike most places now -- easy incidental exercise, better for the environment, better for my mental health. Losing that isn't a small thing to me.

There are townships with their own school pyramid and police force. They don’t have this problem at all. Even when in or near urban areas with crime and delinquency in the schools.

Which are extremely segregated, have super high taxes are in boring, insular areas.

I'll take boring and insular over having to fear that my five-year-old son will be hit by a stray bullet. I'll also take boring and insular over living in a city that is ruled by roving bands of teens wearing balaclavas. Nothing else matters if you don't feel safe when you leave your house.

+1. There is nothing cool enough in DC that would entice me to risk the lives of my children. I just don't understand it.

Some of us who live in the city don't feel we're risking the lives of our children by living here. You're welcome not to live here. I personally don't understand the urgency with which so many posters insist that those of us who do live here must also move away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

What are you on about? People steal, it's a misdemeanor. They could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor. But they're not. That's called a lack of enforcement.

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Anonymous wrote:You leave and don’t look back. DC government has demonstrated it doesn’t care. It would take significant changes for things to change. Maybe in 20 years. There are too many other places to live where you don’t have to worry about this amount of crime.

Not OP but the problem for me is that I don't agree this is true. Everything is a trade off. Sure, I can move somewhere with a lot less crime, but add an hour to my commute daily and lose the same sense of community I have where I am. I like that I can walk/bike most places now -- easy incidental exercise, better for the environment, better for my mental health. Losing that isn't a small thing to me.

There are townships with their own school pyramid and police force. They don’t have this problem at all. Even when in or near urban areas with crime and delinquency in the schools.

Which are extremely segregated, have super high taxes are in boring, insular areas.

I'll take boring and insular over having to fear that my five-year-old son will be hit by a stray bullet. I'll also take boring and insular over living in a city that is ruled by roving bands of teens wearing balaclavas. Nothing else matters if you don't feel safe when you leave your house.

+1. There is nothing cool enough in DC that would entice me to risk the lives of my children. I just don't understand it.

Some of us who live in the city don't feel we're risking the lives of our children by living here. You're welcome not to live here. I personally don't understand the urgency with which so many posters insist that those of us who do live here must also move away.

I agree. I am personally very happy that a critical mass of people willingly live in a cesspool and do not drive up housing prices further in the suburbs. Plus we do not want criminal apologists in Fairfax county (moco may want them though)

[Anonymous]

It looks like the mayor is finally getting serious about enforcing the law. Most DC residents favor strict enforcement.

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the mayor is finally getting serious about enforcing the law. Most DC residents favor strict enforcement.

What makes you think that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/story/murder-rates-soar-in-rural-america-bb431022


just sayin'

A lot of demonic activities happen in these rural communities. Murders are far easier to cover up out in the sticks.

https://apnews.com/article/henryetta-oklahoma-seven-dead-a5d4747b3b287ba08ba71c89c264f24c

So many "missing" people are buried up under some rural farm.

[Anonymous]

I have finally had enough and I'm ready to move. I've been here for over 17 years, bought a house 11 years ago. I fell in love with DC when I was a teen and visited my sister who was here for college. I made it back 20 years after that time and was loving it until about a year ago. I've had to change my activities to try and keep from being a victim to some random crime of opportunity. I'm tired of looking at the graffiti everywhere (even over once nice murals), I'm tired of the lawlessness and the inability of the government to seemingly want to enforce basic laws. I'm tired of all the excuses people give for the rampant crime from these young people. I'm sad at the state of this city. I don't know where I will find the conveniences that I love about the city (walkability to everything, neighborhood restaurants that are not national chains, museums, national sports, theater, transit system), but I can't take the crime, the filth, the lack of law and order, etc any longer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have finally had enough and I'm ready to move. I've been here for over 17 years, bought a house 11 years ago. I fell in love with DC when I was a teen and visited my sister who was here for college. I made it back 20 years after that time and was loving it until about a year ago. I've had to change my activities to try and keep from being a victim to some random crime of opportunity. I'm tired of looking at the graffiti everywhere (even over once nice murals), I'm tired of the lawlessness and the inability of the government to seemingly want to enforce basic laws. I'm tired of all the excuses people give for the rampant crime from these young people. I'm sad at the state of this city. I don't know where I will find the conveniences that I love about the city (walkability to everything, neighborhood restaurants that are not national chains, museums, national sports, theater, transit system), but I can't take the crime, the filth, the lack of law and order, etc any longer.

This resonates with me. I've been here 30 years, raised my kids here, and this is the worst it's been. But DC could be a great city again. Before you give up, please send this comment to the Mayor, the Council, and even your ANC commissioners. They need to know what a big issue this is for people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have finally had enough and I'm ready to move. I've been here for over 17 years, bought a house 11 years ago. I fell in love with DC when I was a teen and visited my sister who was here for college. I made it back 20 years after that time and was loving it until about a year ago. I've had to change my activities to try and keep from being a victim to some random crime of opportunity. I'm tired of looking at the graffiti everywhere (even over once nice murals), I'm tired of the lawlessness and the inability of the government to seemingly want to enforce basic laws. I'm tired of all the excuses people give for the rampant crime from these young people. I'm sad at the state of this city. I don't know where I will find the conveniences that I love about the city (walkability to everything, neighborhood restaurants that are not national chains, museums, national sports, theater, transit system), but I can't take the crime, the filth, the lack of law and order, etc any longer.

This resonates with me. I've been here 30 years, raised my kids here, and this is the worst it's been. But DC could be a great city again. Before you give up, please send this comment to the Mayor, the Council, and even your ANC commissioners. They need to know what a big issue this is for people.

They don't care, unfortunately. Ideology is more important to them.

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Anonymous wrote:You leave and don’t look back. DC government has demonstrated it doesn’t care. It would take significant changes for things to change. Maybe in 20 years. There are too many other places to live where you don’t have to worry about this amount of crime.

Not OP but the problem for me is that I don't agree this is true. Everything is a trade off. Sure, I can move somewhere with a lot less crime, but add an hour to my commute daily and lose the same sense of community I have where I am. I like that I can walk/bike most places now -- easy incidental exercise, better for the environment, better for my mental health. Losing that isn't a small thing to me.

There are townships with their own school pyramid and police force. They don’t have this problem at all. Even when in or near urban areas with crime and delinquency in the schools.

Which are extremely segregated, have super high taxes are in boring, insular areas.

I'll take boring and insular over having to fear that my five-year-old son will be hit by a stray bullet. I'll also take boring and insular over living in a city that is ruled by roving bands of teens wearing balaclavas. Nothing else matters if you don't feel safe when you leave your house.

+1. There is nothing cool enough in DC that would entice me to risk the lives of my children. I just don't understand it.

Some of us who live in the city don't feel we're risking the lives of our children by living here. You're welcome not to live here. I personally don't understand the urgency with which so many posters insist that those of us who do live here must also move away.

I agree. I am personally very happy that a critical mass of people willingly live in a cesspool and do not drive up housing prices further in the suburbs. Plus we do not want criminal apologists in Fairfax county (moco may want them though)

It's so weird how people think calling cities "cesspools" and admitting they're terrified of anywhere but the lily-white suburbs makes them look like anything but hysterical dog-whistling cowards. I don't even know what they think they're signaling but all anyone with a brain sees is someone who lives in a sad fantasy fear world, doesn't understand statistics, and is very likely racist. So...good for you on outing yourself I guess?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have finally had enough and I'm ready to move. I've been here for over 17 years, bought a house 11 years ago. I fell in love with DC when I was a teen and visited my sister who was here for college. I made it back 20 years after that time and was loving it until about a year ago. I've had to change my activities to try and keep from being a victim to some random crime of opportunity. I'm tired of looking at the graffiti everywhere (even over once nice murals), I'm tired of the lawlessness and the inability of the government to seemingly want to enforce basic laws. I'm tired of all the excuses people give for the rampant crime from these young people. I'm sad at the state of this city. I don't know where I will find the conveniences that I love about the city (walkability to everything, neighborhood restaurants that are not national chains, museums, national sports, theater, transit system), but I can't take the crime, the filth, the lack of law and order, etc any longer.

This resonates with me. I've been here 30 years, raised my kids here, and this is the worst it's been. But DC could be a great city again. Before you give up, please send this comment to the Mayor, the Council, and even your ANC commissioners. They need to know what a big issue this is for people.

It’s sad. My family goes back generations in DC, and after so much improved in recent decades, things are not great right now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have finally had enough and I'm ready to move. I've been here for over 17 years, bought a house 11 years ago. I fell in love with DC when I was a teen and visited my sister who was here for college. I made it back 20 years after that time and was loving it until about a year ago. I've had to change my activities to try and keep from being a victim to some random crime of opportunity. I'm tired of looking at the graffiti everywhere (even over once nice murals), I'm tired of the lawlessness and the inability of the government to seemingly want to enforce basic laws. I'm tired of all the excuses people give for the rampant crime from these young people. I'm sad at the state of this city. I don't know where I will find the conveniences that I love about the city (walkability to everything, neighborhood restaurants that are not national chains, museums, national sports, theater, transit system), but I can't take the crime, the filth, the lack of law and order, etc any longer.

This resonates with me. I've been here 30 years, raised my kids here, and this is the worst it's been. But DC could be a great city again. Before you give up, please send this comment to the Mayor, the Council, and even your ANC commissioners. They need to know what a big issue this is for people.

30 years ago U street looked like an actual war zone. Like Ukraine. Bombed out rubble crumbling to the ground. You are full of sht.