Did Dr. McKnight's antiracist speech fall flat?

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Anonymous wrote:I liked the speech but also was listening for the action steps and was left feeling like it was a lot of talk. I think most of us, and certainly those with kids who are getting bullied, would like to hear what, specifically, the consequences are now for hate speech and behavior, and how the curriculum will be altered to address this as well. It’s not that I think she doesn’t care, it’s that I want to see the tangible changes in school policies. I think that’s what she wants too, so I want her to be brave and just enforce standards of decency. Give the words some teeth.

This is a broad problem for society that MCPS can't possibly address. The school system should focus on doing its job of educating kids.

This. Not MCPS’ job to fix racism.

MCPS needs to focus on EDUCATION. For all kids. Smaller class sizes and a solid curriculum.

Get rid of some of the useless Central Office bloat and get rid of the useless initiatives that don’t benefit our kids.

You can't separate racism and EDUCATION, though. No matter how much some people keep insisting that you can.

I don't need her to give a speech on racism. Her job is to make sure kids, of all races, are getting a solid education. Making speeches about racism (or global warming) isn't going to achieve that goal.

Tell us what you are going to do about the abysmal test scores. Tell us what you are going to do about the low staff morale. Tell us what you are going to do about the prevalence of drugs in our schools. That's really what parents and staff want to hear about from McKnight.

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She doesn’t have a plan to address abysmal test scores. She blames teachers for their implicit biases while ignoring her own so morale will not be improving even with a pay raise. She also doesn’t have a plan to keep drugs from being brought and used at MCPS schools. She is using the focus on racism to get a news sound bite to deflect from the real problems. The lack of a plan or metric to measure the success of her plan is an example of why she is a terrible superintendent.

I'd be happy if she focused on educating kids and left drug enforcement to the experts like the DEA and MCPD.

I would be happy if MCPD could randomly bring drug sniffing dogs into schools like they used to. That’s one way to get drugs out of MCPS schools. Expulsion of offenders would be another.

This, and bring in detectors for guns/weapons like other school systems. However that would mean a partnership with MCPD and they kicked them out of the schools.

How about some transparency on what's actually going on as well.

To be fair, MCPD is seemingly pretty complicit because they haven't pitched a fit about all the crime going on in schools that MCPS isn't calling them in for. MCPD and MCPS watch each other's backs and cover for one another to a degree.

Very true but no one is holding either organization accountable and any time they do something, folks like Jwando speak up and scream racism and not to have any consequences (of course his kids are in private and protected from all this).

It's MCPD's job to enforce laws. MCPS is a school system only one of these groups is accountable for law enforcement. Please get real

First off, MCPS is responsible education and discipline. Discipline does have some overlap with law enforcement, so MCPS is not exempt.

Both MCPS and MCPD are branches of Montgomery County Government. They ultimately have the same boss. Therefore, they will not step on each other's toes publicly, and a lot of things get swept under the rug to avoid making one branch of the local government look bad in front of the other.

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Anonymous wrote:Whenever I see the word “antiracist”, I cringe.

Whenever I read about people who say they cringe whenever they see the word "antiracist", I draw the logical conclusion that they are antiantiracist, i.e., proracist.

Well, some people still believe that the instruments of government, including schools should treat people equally, therefore the current definition of "anti-racist" wouldn't apply. We focus on the person, not the community outcome to design our actions.

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Anonymous wrote:Whenever I see the word “antiracist”, I cringe.

Whenever I read about people who say they cringe whenever they see the word "antiracist", I draw the logical conclusion that they are antiantiracist, i.e., proracist.

Whenever I read about people opposed to National Socialism, I draw the logical conclusion that they are anti-National anti-Socialist, i.e., International Fascist.

See how stupid word games are?

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Anonymous wrote:Whenever I see the word “antiracist”, I cringe.

Whenever I read about people who say they cringe whenever they see the word "antiracist", I draw the logical conclusion that they are antiantiracist, i.e., proracist.

Well, some people still believe that the instruments of government, including schools should treat people equally, therefore the current definition of "anti-racist" wouldn't apply. We focus on the person, not the community outcome to design our actions.

Yes, and by refusing to recognize the existence and role of historic, systemic (vs merely personal/individual) racism, those people actually are anti-anti-racism.

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Anonymous wrote:Whenever I see the word “antiracist”, I cringe.

Whenever I read about people who say they cringe whenever they see the word "antiracist", I draw the logical conclusion that they are antiantiracist, i.e., proracist.

Whenever I read about people opposed to National Socialism, I draw the logical conclusion that they are anti-National anti-Socialist, i.e., International Fascist.

See how stupid word games are?

What I see is that you spend a lot of time with right-wing talking points. The Nazis were fascists. People who oppose Nazis are anti-fascist.

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Anonymous wrote:Whenever I see the word “antiracist”, I cringe.

Whenever I read about people who say they cringe whenever they see the word "antiracist", I draw the logical conclusion that they are antiantiracist, i.e., proracist.

Well, some people still believe that the instruments of government, including schools should treat people equally, therefore the current definition of "anti-racist" wouldn't apply. We focus on the person, not the community outcome to design our actions.

Yes, and by refusing to recognize the existence and role of historic, systemic (vs merely personal/individual) racism, those people actually are anti-anti-racism.

Historic and systemic racism has been addressed. The people who are alive now do not face historic, systemic racism in the United States. They MAY face individual racism. So, yeah, the current "anti-racist" dogma that desires people to be treated differently on the basis of race by institutions is both racist on its face and doesn't address the actual problem.

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Anonymous wrote:I liked the speech but also was listening for the action steps and was left feeling like it was a lot of talk. I think most of us, and certainly those with kids who are getting bullied, would like to hear what, specifically, the consequences are now for hate speech and behavior, and how the curriculum will be altered to address this as well. It’s not that I think she doesn’t care, it’s that I want to see the tangible changes in school policies. I think that’s what she wants too, so I want her to be brave and just enforce standards of decency. Give the words some teeth.

This is a broad problem for society that MCPS can't possibly address. The school system should focus on doing its job of educating kids.

This. Not MCPS’ job to fix racism.

MCPS needs to focus on EDUCATION. For all kids. Smaller class sizes and a solid curriculum.

Get rid of some of the useless Central Office bloat and get rid of the useless initiatives that don’t benefit our kids.

You can't separate racism and EDUCATION, though. No matter how much some people keep insisting that you can.

I don't need her to give a speech on racism. Her job is to make sure kids, of all races, are getting a solid education. Making speeches about racism (or global warming) isn't going to achieve that goal.

Tell us what you are going to do about the abysmal test scores. Tell us what you are going to do about the low staff morale. Tell us what you are going to do about the prevalence of drugs in our schools. That's really what parents and staff want to hear about from McKnight.

*this*

She doesn’t have a plan to address abysmal test scores. She blames teachers for their implicit biases while ignoring her own so morale will not be improving even with a pay raise. She also doesn’t have a plan to keep drugs from being brought and used at MCPS schools. She is using the focus on racism to get a news sound bite to deflect from the real problems. The lack of a plan or metric to measure the success of her plan is an example of why she is a terrible superintendent.

I'd be happy if she focused on educating kids and left drug enforcement to the experts like the DEA and MCPD.

I would be happy if MCPD could randomly bring drug sniffing dogs into schools like they used to. That’s one way to get drugs out of MCPS schools. Expulsion of offenders would be another.

This, and bring in detectors for guns/weapons like other school systems. However that would mean a partnership with MCPD and they kicked them out of the schools.

How about some transparency on what's actually going on as well.

To be fair, MCPD is seemingly pretty complicit because they haven't pitched a fit about all the crime going on in schools that MCPS isn't calling them in for. MCPD and MCPS watch each other's backs and cover for one another to a degree.

Very true but no one is holding either organization accountable and any time they do something, folks like Jwando speak up and scream racism and not to have any consequences (of course his kids are in private and protected from all this).

It's MCPD's job to enforce laws. MCPS is a school system only one of these groups is accountable for law enforcement. Please get real

First off, MCPS is responsible education and discipline. Discipline does have some overlap with law enforcement, so MCPS is not exempt.

Both MCPS and MCPD are branches of Montgomery County Government. They ultimately have the same boss. Therefore, they will not step on each other's toes publicly, and a lot of things get swept under the rug to avoid making one branch of the local government look bad in front of the other.

That's mostly wrong. MCPS is not a law enforcement agency or has its own parallel judicial system.

When crimes are committed, it's the job of law enforcement to deal with it not the school system.

MCPD is dropping the ball.

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Anonymous wrote:Whenever I see the word “antiracist”, I cringe.

Whenever I read about people who say they cringe whenever they see the word "antiracist", I draw the logical conclusion that they are antiantiracist, i.e., proracist.

Well, some people still believe that the instruments of government, including schools should treat people equally, therefore the current definition of "anti-racist" wouldn't apply. We focus on the person, not the community outcome to design our actions.

Yes, and by refusing to recognize the existence and role of historic, systemic (vs merely personal/individual) racism, those people actually are anti-anti-racism.

Historic and systemic racism has been addressed. The people who are alive now do not face historic, systemic racism in the United States. They MAY face individual racism. So, yeah, the current "anti-racist" dogma that desires people to be treated differently on the basis of race by institutions is both racist on its face and doesn't address the actual problem.

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Anonymous wrote:I liked the speech but also was listening for the action steps and was left feeling like it was a lot of talk. I think most of us, and certainly those with kids who are getting bullied, would like to hear what, specifically, the consequences are now for hate speech and behavior, and how the curriculum will be altered to address this as well. It’s not that I think she doesn’t care, it’s that I want to see the tangible changes in school policies. I think that’s what she wants too, so I want her to be brave and just enforce standards of decency. Give the words some teeth.

This is a broad problem for society that MCPS can't possibly address. The school system should focus on doing its job of educating kids.

This. Not MCPS’ job to fix racism.

MCPS needs to focus on EDUCATION. For all kids. Smaller class sizes and a solid curriculum.

Get rid of some of the useless Central Office bloat and get rid of the useless initiatives that don’t benefit our kids.

You can't separate racism and EDUCATION, though. No matter how much some people keep insisting that you can.

I don't need her to give a speech on racism. Her job is to make sure kids, of all races, are getting a solid education. Making speeches about racism (or global warming) isn't going to achieve that goal.

Tell us what you are going to do about the abysmal test scores. Tell us what you are going to do about the low staff morale. Tell us what you are going to do about the prevalence of drugs in our schools. That's really what parents and staff want to hear about from McKnight.

*this*

She doesn’t have a plan to address abysmal test scores. She blames teachers for their implicit biases while ignoring her own so morale will not be improving even with a pay raise. She also doesn’t have a plan to keep drugs from being brought and used at MCPS schools. She is using the focus on racism to get a news sound bite to deflect from the real problems. The lack of a plan or metric to measure the success of her plan is an example of why she is a terrible superintendent.

I'd be happy if she focused on educating kids and left drug enforcement to the experts like the DEA and MCPD.

I would be happy if MCPD could randomly bring drug sniffing dogs into schools like they used to. That’s one way to get drugs out of MCPS schools. Expulsion of offenders would be another.

This, and bring in detectors for guns/weapons like other school systems. However that would mean a partnership with MCPD and they kicked them out of the schools.

How about some transparency on what's actually going on as well.

To be fair, MCPD is seemingly pretty complicit because they haven't pitched a fit about all the crime going on in schools that MCPS isn't calling them in for. MCPD and MCPS watch each other's backs and cover for one another to a degree.

Very true but no one is holding either organization accountable and any time they do something, folks like Jwando speak up and scream racism and not to have any consequences (of course his kids are in private and protected from all this).

It's MCPD's job to enforce laws. MCPS is a school system only one of these groups is accountable for law enforcement. Please get real

First off, MCPS is responsible education and discipline. Discipline does have some overlap with law enforcement, so MCPS is not exempt.

Both MCPS and MCPD are branches of Montgomery County Government. They ultimately have the same boss. Therefore, they will not step on each other's toes publicly, and a lot of things get swept under the rug to avoid making one branch of the local government look bad in front of the other.

That's mostly wrong. MCPS is not a law enforcement agency or has its own parallel judicial system.

When crimes are committed, it's the job of law enforcement to deal with it not the school system.

MCPD is dropping the ball.

I never said MCPS is a law enforcement agency. I said MCPS is responsible for student discipline, and that discipline has some overlap with law enforcement. This is an undeniable fact that is borne out by the fact that for some disciplinary violations, MCPS MUST involve law enforcement, which demonstrates the aforementioned overlap.

Argue with yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:I liked the speech but also was listening for the action steps and was left feeling like it was a lot of talk. I think most of us, and certainly those with kids who are getting bullied, would like to hear what, specifically, the consequences are now for hate speech and behavior, and how the curriculum will be altered to address this as well. It’s not that I think she doesn’t care, it’s that I want to see the tangible changes in school policies. I think that’s what she wants too, so I want her to be brave and just enforce standards of decency. Give the words some teeth.

This is a broad problem for society that MCPS can't possibly address. The school system should focus on doing its job of educating kids.

But you can't educate kids when they are afraid to come to school because they are targets of racism and bias. Even if they do come to class, if they are distracted all day because someone said something mean to them, they can't learn. Try getting a kid to focus on today's science lesson when a kid in their previous math class commented about their grade on a quiz with reference to their race (I've seen Asian kids get a B on a quiz and told they were a poor representation of their race. I've seen Black kids get an A on a quiz and asked "what, are you trying to be Asian?") Kids are brutal and unkind to each other, especially if the adults around them model similar behavior towards anyone perceived as "other". The only place to address the diversity in our community and how to get along with each other is with explicit instruction in the classroom. Kids can't learn if they feel unwelcome at school.

I didn't hear anything in Dr. McKnight's speech that would stop or impede the mean and racist comments you gave examples of. Addressing those behaviors would mean spelling new or significant changes in consequence and discipline for students who do engage in the behavior you outlined.

But let's be clear: The biggest impediment to student success is NOT racists comments between other races. It's the comments WITHIN races that are the most toxic and destructive.

Comments among black kids who say things like:
- Being a good student or caring about academics is "acting white"
- Speaking English without relying on slang is "talking white"
- Going against the tropes that are popular in hip-hop and social media, like not doing drugs or engaging in language that uses the n word and the b word, is "acting white"

Racism, meaning one group targeting another group, is not the biggest issue facing students at MCPS. Many of the conflicts that break out at school happen between kids of the SAME RACE.

For example, the national newsworthy shooting that happened at Magruder last year was between two black boys. Dr. McKnight's antiracist speech does NOTHING to address that. Most of the fights that break out at school are between kids of the same race over drugs, gang/clique battles, boyfriend/girlfriend squabbles and social media beef.

You, and Dr. McKnight, are focused on the wrong thing. Which is not a surprise since MCPS is horrible at diagnosing and troubleshooting the real problems with the right insights.

It’s not just Black kids who experience hat and racism. And if your kids are doing that to each other what are you doing as parents to stop your kid’s behavior and language.

You are missing the point or you don’t care. If you keep focusing on just one group, what about all the impacted kids in other groups. Some of us cannot afford to pull our kids to privates as ones like JDS are expensive and the academics are not great.

I didn't say it was just black kids who experience hate and racism. But I'm black and therefore most knowledgable and comfortable speaking my own lived and experiences and those of my kids. Feel free to add yours.

And I think you missed my point, which is that the bigger issue is not conflict between races, but conflict WITHIN races, which you didn't even address in your reply. So I don't know what you're really talking to me about.

What you are saying is that if hate impacts Black kids, it is an issue for you, but if the hate is against Asian, Jewish, or any other population you are perfectly fine with ignoring it as its not impacting your kids.

As a parent, you can do something about how your child speaks to others and how they are spoken to you within reason. However, as a parent, I cannot stop the hate symbols that are put in our schools that our kids see. None of our kids should experience this. But, some of it is parenting and we as parents need to set a good example on how we behave and what we say, enforce our expectations with our kids and have consequences at home for bad behavior.

That's not what I said at all and I question your sanity and reading comprehension skills at this point, so I'm not going to engage further. Good luck.

You are entirely out of touch with what is going on and are ignoring the fact that other groups are impacted by racism. You are talking about kids behavior and that is partly parenting. Your kids aren’t subjected to symbols of hate being put on schools to scare them out of those schools. You are talking about cultural norms and as a parent what are you and your friends allowing your kids to behave that way?

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Anonymous wrote:I liked the speech but also was listening for the action steps and was left feeling like it was a lot of talk. I think most of us, and certainly those with kids who are getting bullied, would like to hear what, specifically, the consequences are now for hate speech and behavior, and how the curriculum will be altered to address this as well. It’s not that I think she doesn’t care, it’s that I want to see the tangible changes in school policies. I think that’s what she wants too, so I want her to be brave and just enforce standards of decency. Give the words some teeth.

This is a broad problem for society that MCPS can't possibly address. The school system should focus on doing its job of educating kids.

This. Not MCPS’ job to fix racism.

MCPS needs to focus on EDUCATION. For all kids. Smaller class sizes and a solid curriculum.

Get rid of some of the useless Central Office bloat and get rid of the useless initiatives that don’t benefit our kids.

You can't separate racism and EDUCATION, though. No matter how much some people keep insisting that you can.

I don't need her to give a speech on racism. Her job is to make sure kids, of all races, are getting a solid education. Making speeches about racism (or global warming) isn't going to achieve that goal.

Tell us what you are going to do about the abysmal test scores. Tell us what you are going to do about the low staff morale. Tell us what you are going to do about the prevalence of drugs in our schools. That's really what parents and staff want to hear about from McKnight.

*this*

She doesn’t have a plan to address abysmal test scores. She blames teachers for their implicit biases while ignoring her own so morale will not be improving even with a pay raise. She also doesn’t have a plan to keep drugs from being brought and used at MCPS schools. She is using the focus on racism to get a news sound bite to deflect from the real problems. The lack of a plan or metric to measure the success of her plan is an example of why she is a terrible superintendent.

I'd be happy if she focused on educating kids and left drug enforcement to the experts like the DEA and MCPD.

I would be happy if MCPD could randomly bring drug sniffing dogs into schools like they used to. That’s one way to get drugs out of MCPS schools. Expulsion of offenders would be another.

This, and bring in detectors for guns/weapons like other school systems. However that would mean a partnership with MCPD and they kicked them out of the schools.

How about some transparency on what's actually going on as well.

To be fair, MCPD is seemingly pretty complicit because they haven't pitched a fit about all the crime going on in schools that MCPS isn't calling them in for. MCPD and MCPS watch each other's backs and cover for one another to a degree.

Very true but no one is holding either organization accountable and any time they do something, folks like Jwando speak up and scream racism and not to have any consequences (of course his kids are in private and protected from all this).

It's MCPD's job to enforce laws. MCPS is a school system only one of these groups is accountable for law enforcement. Please get real

First off, MCPS is responsible education and discipline. Discipline does have some overlap with law enforcement, so MCPS is not exempt.

Both MCPS and MCPD are branches of Montgomery County Government. They ultimately have the same boss. Therefore, they will not step on each other's toes publicly, and a lot of things get swept under the rug to avoid making one branch of the local government look bad in front of the other.

That's mostly wrong. MCPS is not a law enforcement agency or has its own parallel judicial system.

When crimes are committed, it's the job of law enforcement to deal with it not the school system.

MCPD is dropping the ball.

I never said MCPS is a law enforcement agency. I said MCPS is responsible for student discipline, and that discipline has some overlap with law enforcement. This is an undeniable fact that is borne out by the fact that for some disciplinary violations, MCPS MUST involve law enforcement, which demonstrates the aforementioned overlap.

Argue with yourself.

That sounds like you are just using semantics to distinguish discipline and law enforcement. The bottom line is we already have laws and agencies to provide discipline to those who break them.

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Historic and systemic racism has been addressed. The people who are alive now do not face historic, systemic racism in the United States. They MAY face individual racism. So, yeah, the current "anti-racist" dogma that desires people to be treated differently on the basis of race by institutions is both racist on its face and doesn't address the actual problem.

Wow and we wonder why racist and anti-sematic attacks. Just curious how has "historic and systemic racism been addressed?? Give me actual real facts and statistics. I will start with this one. The maternal death rate among Black Americans is much higher than other racial groups; in 2021 it was 69.9 per 100,000, which is 2.6 times higher than the rate for White women -Mar 16, 2023

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Anonymous wrote:Whenever I see the word “antiracist”, I cringe.

Whenever I read about people who say they cringe whenever they see the word "antiracist", I draw the logical conclusion that they are antiantiracist, i.e., proracist.

Whenever I read about people opposed to National Socialism, I draw the logical conclusion that they are anti-National anti-Socialist, i.e., International Fascist.

See how stupid word games are?

What I see is that you spend a lot of time with right-wing talking points. The Nazis were fascists. People who oppose Nazis are anti-fascist.

Now you are just being anti-Semantic.

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Anonymous wrote:I liked the speech but also was listening for the action steps and was left feeling like it was a lot of talk. I think most of us, and certainly those with kids who are getting bullied, would like to hear what, specifically, the consequences are now for hate speech and behavior, and how the curriculum will be altered to address this as well. It’s not that I think she doesn’t care, it’s that I want to see the tangible changes in school policies. I think that’s what she wants too, so I want her to be brave and just enforce standards of decency. Give the words some teeth.

This is a broad problem for society that MCPS can't possibly address. The school system should focus on doing its job of educating kids.

This. Not MCPS’ job to fix racism.

MCPS needs to focus on EDUCATION. For all kids. Smaller class sizes and a solid curriculum.

Get rid of some of the useless Central Office bloat and get rid of the useless initiatives that don’t benefit our kids.

You can't separate racism and EDUCATION, though. No matter how much some people keep insisting that you can.

I don't need her to give a speech on racism. Her job is to make sure kids, of all races, are getting a solid education. Making speeches about racism (or global warming) isn't going to achieve that goal.

Tell us what you are going to do about the abysmal test scores. Tell us what you are going to do about the low staff morale. Tell us what you are going to do about the prevalence of drugs in our schools. That's really what parents and staff want to hear about from McKnight.

*this*

She doesn’t have a plan to address abysmal test scores. She blames teachers for their implicit biases while ignoring her own so morale will not be improving even with a pay raise. She also doesn’t have a plan to keep drugs from being brought and used at MCPS schools. She is using the focus on racism to get a news sound bite to deflect from the real problems. The lack of a plan or metric to measure the success of her plan is an example of why she is a terrible superintendent.

I'd be happy if she focused on educating kids and left drug enforcement to the experts like the DEA and MCPD.

I would be happy if MCPD could randomly bring drug sniffing dogs into schools like they used to. That’s one way to get drugs out of MCPS schools. Expulsion of offenders would be another.

This, and bring in detectors for guns/weapons like other school systems. However that would mean a partnership with MCPD and they kicked them out of the schools.

How about some transparency on what's actually going on as well.

To be fair, MCPD is seemingly pretty complicit because they haven't pitched a fit about all the crime going on in schools that MCPS isn't calling them in for. MCPD and MCPS watch each other's backs and cover for one another to a degree.

Very true but no one is holding either organization accountable and any time they do something, folks like Jwando speak up and scream racism and not to have any consequences (of course his kids are in private and protected from all this).

It's MCPD's job to enforce laws. MCPS is a school system only one of these groups is accountable for law enforcement. Please get real

First off, MCPS is responsible education and discipline. Discipline does have some overlap with law enforcement, so MCPS is not exempt.

Both MCPS and MCPD are branches of Montgomery County Government. They ultimately have the same boss. Therefore, they will not step on each other's toes publicly, and a lot of things get swept under the rug to avoid making one branch of the local government look bad in front of the other.

That's mostly wrong. MCPS is not a law enforcement agency or has its own parallel judicial system.

When crimes are committed, it's the job of law enforcement to deal with it not the school system.

MCPD is dropping the ball.

I never said MCPS is a law enforcement agency. I said MCPS is responsible for student discipline, and that discipline has some overlap with law enforcement. This is an undeniable fact that is borne out by the fact that for some disciplinary violations, MCPS MUST involve law enforcement, which demonstrates the aforementioned overlap.

Argue with yourself.

That sounds like you are just using semantics to distinguish discipline and law enforcement. The bottom line is we already have laws and agencies to provide discipline to those who break them.

NP - MCPS schools have become areas that drugs are sold and used without fear of criminal prosecution. Schools are public places. All crimes including possession of illegal drugs in MCPS schools should be reported to MCPD.

Reporting incidents of drug possession to MCPD would go a long way to address the drug crisis at schools.

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So many times, MCPS schools don’t even notify parents when students have problems at school. Parents can become partners with schools only when they receive information from schools. This includes academic as well as disciplinary information. Parents are not always informed when their children get in trouble at school.