TJ Admit, but worried!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TJ parent here. Daughter is a sophomore. She took Algebra 1 in 8th grade. She was never too fond of Math, she got good grades but was no way accelerated or a math genius. However, she was passionate about science, she participated in science olympiads, designed science experiments on her own. She wanted to go to TJ for the science related opportunities, and is loving it there. She is not interested in engineering or CS but is completely utilizing the opportunities offered by TJ for science.

Congrats to your daughter. Sounds like TJ is the right place for her. Do you mind sharing how she has done / is doing in math classes at TJ?

[Anonymous]

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thanks.. AP physics required Calculus, but can be taken concurrently ( which will be by Senior year)

Agree starting with Geom might limit the course selection.

The regular AP Physics class should require calc. I don't know about TJ so I guess anything is possible but normally it's just Physics C that requires advanced math and the regular AP Physics requires Algebra 2.

sorry "should NOT require calc"

When my kid was there, they didn't offer the lower level AP physics courses, only AP Physics C which did require AP Calc BC before or concurrently.

Still like that. Only AP Physics C is offered that requires Calc BC as a prerequisite or corequisite

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:op here.

thanks.. AP physics required Calculus, but can be taken concurrently ( which will be by Senior year)

Agree starting with Geom might limit the course selection.

The regular AP Physics class should require calc. I don't know about TJ so I guess anything is possible but normally it's just Physics C that requires advanced math and the regular AP Physics requires Algebra 2.

sorry "should NOT require calc"

When my kid was there, they didn't offer the lower level AP physics courses, only AP Physics C which did require AP Calc BC before or concurrently.

Still like that. Only AP Physics C is offered that requires Calc BC as a prerequisite or corequisite

This is why the freshmen should come in with at least Geometry or higher. No brainer except for people who are closed mined.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:op here.

thanks.. AP physics required Calculus, but can be taken concurrently ( which will be by Senior year)

Agree starting with Geom might limit the course selection.

The regular AP Physics class should require calc. I don't know about TJ so I guess anything is possible but normally it's just Physics C that requires advanced math and the regular AP Physics requires Algebra 2.

sorry "should NOT require calc"

When my kid was there, they didn't offer the lower level AP physics courses, only AP Physics C which did require AP Calc BC before or concurrently.

Still like that. Only AP Physics C is offered that requires Calc BC as a prerequisite or corequisite

This is why the freshmen should come in with at least Geometry or higher. No brainer except for people who are closed mined.

That would further advantage affluent schools where acceleration is more widely available but I understand many parents would prefer to game the system like this in their favor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:op here.

thanks.. AP physics required Calculus, but can be taken concurrently ( which will be by Senior year)

Agree starting with Geom might limit the course selection.

The regular AP Physics class should require calc. I don't know about TJ so I guess anything is possible but normally it's just Physics C that requires advanced math and the regular AP Physics requires Algebra 2.

sorry "should NOT require calc"

When my kid was there, they didn't offer the lower level AP physics courses, only AP Physics C which did require AP Calc BC before or concurrently.

Still like that. Only AP Physics C is offered that requires Calc BC as a prerequisite or corequisite

This is why the freshmen should come in with at least Geometry or higher. No brainer except for people who are closed mined.

That would further advantage affluent schools where acceleration is more widely available but I understand many parents would prefer to game the system like this in their favor.

Advanced Math and Geometry curriculum and courses are available to all FCPS students who qualify. If a student doesn’t qualify, then blame FCPS, not TJ admissions.

This thread is about a student that had the opportunity but did not qualify.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:op here.

thanks.. AP physics required Calculus, but can be taken concurrently ( which will be by Senior year)

Agree starting with Geom might limit the course selection.

The regular AP Physics class should require calc. I don't know about TJ so I guess anything is possible but normally it's just Physics C that requires advanced math and the regular AP Physics requires Algebra 2.

sorry "should NOT require calc"

When my kid was there, they didn't offer the lower level AP physics courses, only AP Physics C which did require AP Calc BC before or concurrently.

Still like that. Only AP Physics C is offered that requires Calc BC as a prerequisite or corequisite

This is why the freshmen should come in with at least Geometry or higher. No brainer except for people who are closed mined.

That would further advantage affluent schools where acceleration is more widely available but I understand many parents would prefer to game the system like this in their favor.

Advanced Math and Geometry curriculum and courses are available to all FCPS students who qualify. If a student doesn’t qualify, then blame FCPS, not TJ admissions.

This thread is about a student that had the opportunity but did not qualify.

Stop lying! Some schools make it much easier than others to get ahead in math. The playing field is far from level and you know it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:op here.

thanks.. AP physics required Calculus, but can be taken concurrently ( which will be by Senior year)

Agree starting with Geom might limit the course selection.

The regular AP Physics class should require calc. I don't know about TJ so I guess anything is possible but normally it's just Physics C that requires advanced math and the regular AP Physics requires Algebra 2.

sorry "should NOT require calc"

When my kid was there, they didn't offer the lower level AP physics courses, only AP Physics C which did require AP Calc BC before or concurrently.

Still like that. Only AP Physics C is offered that requires Calc BC as a prerequisite or corequisite

This is why the freshmen should come in with at least Geometry or higher. No brainer except for people who are closed mined.

That would further advantage affluent schools where acceleration is more widely available but I understand many parents would prefer to game the system like this in their favor.

Advanced Math and Geometry curriculum and courses are available to all FCPS students who qualify. If a student doesn’t qualify, then blame FCPS, not TJ admissions.

This thread is about a student that had the opportunity but did not qualify.

Stop lying! Some schools make it much easier than others to get ahead in math. The playing field is far from level and you know it.

DP. My kids' Title I gen ed program still had advanced math and had maybe 5 kids qualify each year for Algebra in 7th. The IAAT/SOL bar is honestly not that high, and any kid who is gifted in math in FCPS should easily be able to clear the bar, even at low SES schools. I'm confused as to why you think it would be very difficult for a kid at a Title I school to qualify for Algebra.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:op here.

thanks.. AP physics required Calculus, but can be taken concurrently ( which will be by Senior year)

Agree starting with Geom might limit the course selection.

The regular AP Physics class should require calc. I don't know about TJ so I guess anything is possible but normally it's just Physics C that requires advanced math and the regular AP Physics requires Algebra 2.

sorry "should NOT require calc"

When my kid was there, they didn't offer the lower level AP physics courses, only AP Physics C which did require AP Calc BC before or concurrently.

Still like that. Only AP Physics C is offered that requires Calc BC as a prerequisite or corequisite

This is why the freshmen should come in with at least Geometry or higher. No brainer except for people who are closed mined.

That would further advantage affluent schools where acceleration is more widely available but I understand many parents would prefer to game the system like this in their favor.

Advanced Math and Geometry curriculum and courses are available to all FCPS students who qualify. If a student doesn’t qualify, then blame FCPS, not TJ admissions.

This thread is about a student that had the opportunity but did not qualify.

Stop lying! Some schools make it much easier than others to get ahead in math. The playing field is far from level and you know it.

Im sorry you feel this way, but FCPS is fairly clear on what is required to be eligible for Algebra I in 7th grade. Each elementary school has access to the curriculum requirements and also offers AAP Levels I-IV to all students based on many factors including input from teachers, parents, and principals as well as various testing. It sounds like you dont like FCPS Math execution. This isnt a TJ admissions issue.

You shouldnt be angry at people because of where they live.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:op here.

thanks.. AP physics required Calculus, but can be taken concurrently ( which will be by Senior year)

Agree starting with Geom might limit the course selection.

The regular AP Physics class should require calc. I don't know about TJ so I guess anything is possible but normally it's just Physics C that requires advanced math and the regular AP Physics requires Algebra 2.

sorry "should NOT require calc"

When my kid was there, they didn't offer the lower level AP physics courses, only AP Physics C which did require AP Calc BC before or concurrently.

Still like that. Only AP Physics C is offered that requires Calc BC as a prerequisite or corequisite

This is why the freshmen should come in with at least Geometry or higher. No brainer except for people who are closed mined.

That would further advantage affluent schools where acceleration is more widely available but I understand many parents would prefer to game the system like this in their favor.

Advanced Math and Geometry curriculum and courses are available to all FCPS students who qualify. If a student doesn’t qualify, then blame FCPS, not TJ admissions.

This thread is about a student that had the opportunity but did not qualify.

Stop lying! Some schools make it much easier than others to get ahead in math. The playing field is far from level and you know it.

DP. My kids' Title I gen ed program still had advanced math and had maybe 5 kids qualify each year for Algebra in 7th. The IAAT/SOL bar is honestly not that high, and any kid who is gifted in math in FCPS should easily be able to clear the bar, even at low SES schools. I'm confused as to why you think it would be very difficult for a kid at a Title I school to qualify for Algebra.

It is just an excuse. They want more black and brown kids, and requiring more academics would be an obstacle. That's why they bring up that Asians are particularly geared towards standardized testing, so this should not be counted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:op here.

thanks.. AP physics required Calculus, but can be taken concurrently ( which will be by Senior year)

Agree starting with Geom might limit the course selection.

The regular AP Physics class should require calc. I don't know about TJ so I guess anything is possible but normally it's just Physics C that requires advanced math and the regular AP Physics requires Algebra 2.

sorry "should NOT require calc"

When my kid was there, they didn't offer the lower level AP physics courses, only AP Physics C which did require AP Calc BC before or concurrently.

Still like that. Only AP Physics C is offered that requires Calc BC as a prerequisite or corequisite

This is why the freshmen should come in with at least Geometry or higher. No brainer except for people who are closed mined.

That would further advantage affluent schools where acceleration is more widely available but I understand many parents would prefer to game the system like this in their favor.

Advanced Math and Geometry curriculum and courses are available to all FCPS students who qualify. If a student doesn’t qualify, then blame FCPS, not TJ admissions.

This thread is about a student that had the opportunity but did not qualify.

Stop lying! Some schools make it much easier than others to get ahead in math. The playing field is far from level and you know it.

DP. My kids' Title I gen ed program still had advanced math and had maybe 5 kids qualify each year for Algebra in 7th. The IAAT/SOL bar is honestly not that high, and any kid who is gifted in math in FCPS should easily be able to clear the bar, even at low SES schools. I'm confused as to why you think it would be very difficult for a kid at a Title I school to qualify for Algebra.

It is just an excuse. They want more black and brown kids, and requiring more academics would be an obstacle. That's why they bring up that Asians are particularly geared towards standardized testing, so this should not be counted.

Speak the truth brother.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:op here.

thanks.. AP physics required Calculus, but can be taken concurrently ( which will be by Senior year)

Agree starting with Geom might limit the course selection.

The regular AP Physics class should require calc. I don't know about TJ so I guess anything is possible but normally it's just Physics C that requires advanced math and the regular AP Physics requires Algebra 2.

sorry "should NOT require calc"

When my kid was there, they didn't offer the lower level AP physics courses, only AP Physics C which did require AP Calc BC before or concurrently.

Still like that. Only AP Physics C is offered that requires Calc BC as a prerequisite or corequisite

This is why the freshmen should come in with at least Geometry or higher. No brainer except for people who are closed mined.

That would further advantage affluent schools where acceleration is more widely available but I understand many parents would prefer to game the system like this in their favor.

Advanced Math and Geometry curriculum and courses are available to all FCPS students who qualify. If a student doesn’t qualify, then blame FCPS, not TJ admissions.

This thread is about a student that had the opportunity but did not qualify.

Stop lying! Some schools make it much easier than others to get ahead in math. The playing field is far from level and you know it.

C4TJ posters want to burry the truth and return a system where only the privileged can access these programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People are conflating two things

1. Old process is flawed

Hence, it seems the assumption seems to be

2. New process is good/better

I would agree the old process is flawed but new process is even more flawed. I do like the idea of some percentage of kids from each HS getting into TJ. That is a good decision. Dropping recommendation letters is the most damaging of all.

We need reform, but in a thoughtful way. Not like the rushed half baked job they did in the middle of a pandemic.

The new process is significantly better for the overall health of the community. It has massively reduced the incentive for participation in TJ-prep programs, and children who are denied admission are faring much better than they were previously because parents are blaming the new process instead of their children. The trauma that kids in my community would suffer in the old days was awful... the new process has saved many abusive parents from themselves in a way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are conflating two things

1. Old process is flawed

Hence, it seems the assumption seems to be

2. New process is good/better

I would agree the old process is flawed but new process is even more flawed. I do like the idea of some percentage of kids from each HS getting into TJ. That is a good decision. Dropping recommendation letters is the most damaging of all.

We need reform, but in a thoughtful way. Not like the rushed half baked job they did in the middle of a pandemic.

The new process is significantly better for the overall health of the community. It has massively reduced the incentive for participation in TJ-prep programs, and children who are denied admission are faring much better than they were previously because parents are blaming the new process instead of their children. The trauma that kids in my community would suffer in the old days was awful... the new process has saved many abusive parents from themselves in a way.

You would indeed suffer 'trauma' only if you entered without the necessary preparation and qualifications - entitlement mentality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are conflating two things

1. Old process is flawed

Hence, it seems the assumption seems to be

2. New process is good/better

I would agree the old process is flawed but new process is even more flawed. I do like the idea of some percentage of kids from each HS getting into TJ. That is a good decision. Dropping recommendation letters is the most damaging of all.

We need reform, but in a thoughtful way. Not like the rushed half baked job they did in the middle of a pandemic.

The new process is significantly better for the overall health of the community. It has massively reduced the incentive for participation in TJ-prep programs, and children who are denied admission are faring much better than they were previously because parents are blaming the new process instead of their children. The trauma that kids in my community would suffer in the old days was awful... the new process has saved many abusive parents from themselves in a way.

Um. Go to any prep place. They still have TJ prep, but it is now geared towards essays and writing. It is full of students as early as 5/6th grade. New process just shifted everything over to writing. The prep places list all the TJ admissions still. Old process let in naturally gifted math students and some prepped students. New process mostly results in naturally gifted writers and prepped students + experience factored students. The problem is TJ is supposed to be a STEM school. I mean why didn't they just add experience factors to the old system?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are conflating two things

1. Old process is flawed

Hence, it seems the assumption seems to be

2. New process is good/better

I would agree the old process is flawed but new process is even more flawed. I do like the idea of some percentage of kids from each HS getting into TJ. That is a good decision. Dropping recommendation letters is the most damaging of all.

We need reform, but in a thoughtful way. Not like the rushed half baked job they did in the middle of a pandemic.

The new process is significantly better for the overall health of the community. It has massively reduced the incentive for participation in TJ-prep programs, and children who are denied admission are faring much better than they were previously because parents are blaming the new process instead of their children. The trauma that kids in my community would suffer in the old days was awful... the new process has saved many abusive parents from themselves in a way.

Um. Go to any prep place. They still have TJ prep, but it is now geared towards essays and writing. It is full of students as early as 5/6th grade. New process just shifted everything over to writing. The prep places list all the TJ admissions still. Old process let in naturally gifted math students and some prepped students. New process mostly results in naturally gifted writers and prepped students + experience factored students. The problem is TJ is supposed to be a STEM school. I mean why didn't they just add experience factors to the old system?

Because SB members are idiots and think Asian students can't write. Guess what, Asian students excel in writing/reading and math so their own prejudice and stupidity resulted in moronic process.