Dalai Lama asks kid to suck his tongue

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Anonymous wrote:That there is no broader outcry is truly disgusting.

This!

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Anonymous wrote:Are we really ruling out dementia, at his age?

I have spent the last seven years working in hospice care mostly with patients suffering some form of dementia.

DEMENTIA DOES NOT CAUSE PEDOPHILIA!! PERIOD.

Dementia prevents people from employing masking strategies they have utilized their whole lives to cover personality defects and/or paraphilia. THAT WAS ALREADY THERE.

I’m disgusted today but entirely unsurprised. Religion is a hive mind and that’s a great setting for exploitation of vulnerable people.

Dementia doesn’t cause pedophilia. If the Dalai Lama likes young boys to suck his tongue (so scary and DISGUSTING to type and think about!) it’s because that’s what he wants. The clip of him asking that child to do that is extremely upsetting and disturbing. That’s exactly how pedos work. He was probably so overwhelmed with attraction to the child (shudder) he just wanted what he wanted.

It’s so gross that a pp upthhread blamed the “coverage.”

Dementia does distort time perception though. The person effected can be experiencing themselves at any age. He was completely out of line, but he may not have been coming from the perspective as an adult.

What are you, paid PR? You should be ashamed even to type that.

The poor kid kept pulling away but his arm did not move bc DL had it in a tight grip. Notice where his hand seemed to be.

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Imagine what he does in private, if he’s comfortable asking a child to suck his tongue, publicly!

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Anonymous wrote:He took a million dollar payment from the Nexium cult and gave it cover and cache. Not the first red flag. Nexium is the cult that sexually abused, starved and BRANDED women.

This was the very first thing I thought of. DL is taking a page from the Keith Reinere playbook.

Wow I had never heard about this - and I have a sibling who was a Tibetan Buddhist for a while and our family met the DL many years ago. This sibling is no longer a TB but a hyper spiritual evangelical with strong ethics.

This is really sad that any religious leader would misuse their position of trust in such a way.

I had assumed that this behavior was due to dementia but PPs are right to question that if there is a history of corruption and cover ups.

One aspect that may contribute to this is that DLs are designated at very young ages and kept separate in all male schools. This is undoubtedly very unhealthy to be granted god like status at young ages without adequate checks and balances on moral choices as they mature.

https://www.biography.com/religious-figures/dalai-lama-throne

How the Dalai Lama Took the Throne at Age 4
The 14th spiritual leader of Tibet was recognized as the reincarnation of the 13th lama when he was just a child.
By Lesley KennedyPUBLISHED: MAY 13, 2020

Lhamo Thondup was just a 2-year-old boy, one of seven children living on a farm in a small Tibetan village, when a search party declared him the 14th Dalai Lama.
Before the discovery, he was considered an ordinary boy who spent time collecting eggs in the family’s chicken coop with his mother, according to the Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
“Another favorite occupation of mine as an infant was to pack things in a bag as if I was about to go on a long journey,” he says, according to the office. “I'm going to Lhasa, I'm going to Lhasa, I would say. This, coupled with my insistence that I be allowed always to sit at the head of the table, was later said to be an indication that I must have known that I was destined for greater things.”
…

Alexander Gardner, director and chief editor of The Treasury of Lives, a resource for the lived history of Tibet and its surrounding regions, says it is entirely normal for a child as young as 2 to be identified as a reincarnated lama.
“Particularly in the case of powerful incarnations such as the Dalai Lamas or Karmapas, the search would begin almost immediately,” he says, noting a suitable amount of time would need to pass following the death of the last lama. “The consciousness of the dead lama would have to enter the womb of the mother of the next incarnation and be born, and then they would need the child to be old enough to show signs and be subjected to tests. So 2 is reasonable; a year transition, and a child of about a year old to test.”
A search party is tasked with following a set of signs pointing them to the reincarnated lama
Armed with a series of signs, a search party, commissioned by the Tibetan government and led by high lamas and dignitaries, was dispatched to locate the new incarnation of the previous 13 dalai lamas — the first of which was born in 1391.
…

The 14th Dalai Lama has sat on the throne for more than eight decades
Recognized as the new Dalai Lama, the boy officially took the throne as the spiritual leader of Tibet at age 4 on February 22, 1940.
“In terms of a 4-year-old taking the throne, the dalai lamas had been on the Tibetan throne for over 250 years by then, so the country was used to it,” Gardner says. “Tibet didn’t make a distinction between religious and political power. The Dalai Lama was a god in human form (Chenrezig, the bodhisattva of compassion), and he was the head of state. He could teach the path to liberation and he could negotiate international treaties. Of course, there was a cabinet and an assembly and advisors of all sorts, but these also were all monks, so the religious and political power was all unified.”
But given that the Tibetan government operated with reincarnated successors, waiting until adulthood was not an option, Gardner adds.
“They would place the child on the throne, but the regent would continue to rule the country until the Dalai Lama came of age,” he says. “Other Tibetan incarnations are enthroned in a similar way, becoming the head of a monastery while just a few years old, with abbots and other administrators actually running the place.”

The cruelty is horrifying, as is the vulnerability of the child.

Nice try, but “His Holiness” asked an innocent child to suck his tongue in public. That kid is damaged for life. Nobody did a damn thing to intervene, imagine what goes on in private!

I wasn’t defending the DL. I think the video is horrifying and I actually agree with a PP that if this had been a video of Joel Osteen the coverage would be different.

But that does not mean what happened to the DL as a vulnerable child wasn’t also horrific.

+1

Do you mean he was identified as the Dalai Lama? That was his horrific childhood? Or was he abused?

Read article On previous page. He and many other DLs are chosen from normal humble Tibetan families at 2-4 years of age, removed from their families and raised in strange ways as Demi gods by strangers. It is hardly surprising that he has poor boundaries with children himself - but no one is justifying it

Tibet is a terrible place to live in a humble family. He won the lottery. Give me a break.

You clearly have zero understanding of childhood development needs.

Please rigidly stick to your ignorant judgments but don’t pretend they are helpful except perhaps for you finding simplistic judgments that help you to reduce complexity to judgmental sound bites.

No one was justifying the DL’s behavior. There are reasons for everything and some of us prefer to understand why dysfunction is occurring rather than scream into the wind.

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Anonymous wrote:He took a million dollar payment from the Nexium cult and gave it cover and cache. Not the first red flag. Nexium is the cult that sexually abused, starved and BRANDED women.

This was the very first thing I thought of. DL is taking a page from the Keith Reinere playbook.

Wow I had never heard about this - and I have a sibling who was a Tibetan Buddhist for a while and our family met the DL many years ago. This sibling is no longer a TB but a hyper spiritual evangelical with strong ethics.

This is really sad that any religious leader would misuse their position of trust in such a way.

I had assumed that this behavior was due to dementia but PPs are right to question that if there is a history of corruption and cover ups.

One aspect that may contribute to this is that DLs are designated at very young ages and kept separate in all male schools. This is undoubtedly very unhealthy to be granted god like status at young ages without adequate checks and balances on moral choices as they mature.

https://www.biography.com/religious-figures/dalai-lama-throne

How the Dalai Lama Took the Throne at Age 4
The 14th spiritual leader of Tibet was recognized as the reincarnation of the 13th lama when he was just a child.
By Lesley KennedyPUBLISHED: MAY 13, 2020

Lhamo Thondup was just a 2-year-old boy, one of seven children living on a farm in a small Tibetan village, when a search party declared him the 14th Dalai Lama.
Before the discovery, he was considered an ordinary boy who spent time collecting eggs in the family’s chicken coop with his mother, according to the Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
“Another favorite occupation of mine as an infant was to pack things in a bag as if I was about to go on a long journey,” he says, according to the office. “I'm going to Lhasa, I'm going to Lhasa, I would say. This, coupled with my insistence that I be allowed always to sit at the head of the table, was later said to be an indication that I must have known that I was destined for greater things.”
…

Alexander Gardner, director and chief editor of The Treasury of Lives, a resource for the lived history of Tibet and its surrounding regions, says it is entirely normal for a child as young as 2 to be identified as a reincarnated lama.
“Particularly in the case of powerful incarnations such as the Dalai Lamas or Karmapas, the search would begin almost immediately,” he says, noting a suitable amount of time would need to pass following the death of the last lama. “The consciousness of the dead lama would have to enter the womb of the mother of the next incarnation and be born, and then they would need the child to be old enough to show signs and be subjected to tests. So 2 is reasonable; a year transition, and a child of about a year old to test.”
A search party is tasked with following a set of signs pointing them to the reincarnated lama
Armed with a series of signs, a search party, commissioned by the Tibetan government and led by high lamas and dignitaries, was dispatched to locate the new incarnation of the previous 13 dalai lamas — the first of which was born in 1391.
…

The 14th Dalai Lama has sat on the throne for more than eight decades
Recognized as the new Dalai Lama, the boy officially took the throne as the spiritual leader of Tibet at age 4 on February 22, 1940.
“In terms of a 4-year-old taking the throne, the dalai lamas had been on the Tibetan throne for over 250 years by then, so the country was used to it,” Gardner says. “Tibet didn’t make a distinction between religious and political power. The Dalai Lama was a god in human form (Chenrezig, the bodhisattva of compassion), and he was the head of state. He could teach the path to liberation and he could negotiate international treaties. Of course, there was a cabinet and an assembly and advisors of all sorts, but these also were all monks, so the religious and political power was all unified.”
But given that the Tibetan government operated with reincarnated successors, waiting until adulthood was not an option, Gardner adds.
“They would place the child on the throne, but the regent would continue to rule the country until the Dalai Lama came of age,” he says. “Other Tibetan incarnations are enthroned in a similar way, becoming the head of a monastery while just a few years old, with abbots and other administrators actually running the place.”

The cruelty is horrifying, as is the vulnerability of the child.

Nice try, but “His Holiness” asked an innocent child to suck his tongue in public. That kid is damaged for life. Nobody did a damn thing to intervene, imagine what goes on in private!

I wasn’t defending the DL. I think the video is horrifying and I actually agree with a PP that if this had been a video of Joel Osteen the coverage would be different.

But that does not mean what happened to the DL as a vulnerable child wasn’t also horrific.

+1

Do you mean he was identified as the Dalai Lama? That was his horrific childhood? Or was he abused?

Read article On previous page. He and many other DLs are chosen from normal humble Tibetan families at 2-4 years of age, removed from their families and raised in strange ways as Demi gods by strangers. It is hardly surprising that he has poor boundaries with children himself - but no one is justifying it

Tibet is a terrible place to live in a humble family. He won the lottery. Give me a break.

You clearly have zero understanding of childhood development needs.

Please rigidly stick to your ignorant judgments but don’t pretend they are helpful except perhaps for you finding simplistic judgments that help you to reduce complexity to judgmental sound bites.

No one was justifying the DL’s behavior. There are reasons for everything and some of us prefer to understand why dysfunction is occurring rather than scream into the wind.

Groomers abound.

Imagine an elementary school principal doing this at a school function?

Imagine the Pope doing this?

Imagine any leader in any church doing this?

It’s not screaming into the wind: it’s protecting children you absolute clown.

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Anonymous wrote:He took a million dollar payment from the Nexium cult and gave it cover and cache. Not the first red flag. Nexium is the cult that sexually abused, starved and BRANDED women.

This was the very first thing I thought of. DL is taking a page from the Keith Reinere playbook.

Wow I had never heard about this - and I have a sibling who was a Tibetan Buddhist for a while and our family met the DL many years ago. This sibling is no longer a TB but a hyper spiritual evangelical with strong ethics.

This is really sad that any religious leader would misuse their position of trust in such a way.

I had assumed that this behavior was due to dementia but PPs are right to question that if there is a history of corruption and cover ups.

One aspect that may contribute to this is that DLs are designated at very young ages and kept separate in all male schools. This is undoubtedly very unhealthy to be granted god like status at young ages without adequate checks and balances on moral choices as they mature.

https://www.biography.com/religious-figures/dalai-lama-throne

How the Dalai Lama Took the Throne at Age 4
The 14th spiritual leader of Tibet was recognized as the reincarnation of the 13th lama when he was just a child.
By Lesley KennedyPUBLISHED: MAY 13, 2020

Lhamo Thondup was just a 2-year-old boy, one of seven children living on a farm in a small Tibetan village, when a search party declared him the 14th Dalai Lama.
Before the discovery, he was considered an ordinary boy who spent time collecting eggs in the family’s chicken coop with his mother, according to the Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
“Another favorite occupation of mine as an infant was to pack things in a bag as if I was about to go on a long journey,” he says, according to the office. “I'm going to Lhasa, I'm going to Lhasa, I would say. This, coupled with my insistence that I be allowed always to sit at the head of the table, was later said to be an indication that I must have known that I was destined for greater things.”
…

Alexander Gardner, director and chief editor of The Treasury of Lives, a resource for the lived history of Tibet and its surrounding regions, says it is entirely normal for a child as young as 2 to be identified as a reincarnated lama.
“Particularly in the case of powerful incarnations such as the Dalai Lamas or Karmapas, the search would begin almost immediately,” he says, noting a suitable amount of time would need to pass following the death of the last lama. “The consciousness of the dead lama would have to enter the womb of the mother of the next incarnation and be born, and then they would need the child to be old enough to show signs and be subjected to tests. So 2 is reasonable; a year transition, and a child of about a year old to test.”
A search party is tasked with following a set of signs pointing them to the reincarnated lama
Armed with a series of signs, a search party, commissioned by the Tibetan government and led by high lamas and dignitaries, was dispatched to locate the new incarnation of the previous 13 dalai lamas — the first of which was born in 1391.
…

The 14th Dalai Lama has sat on the throne for more than eight decades
Recognized as the new Dalai Lama, the boy officially took the throne as the spiritual leader of Tibet at age 4 on February 22, 1940.
“In terms of a 4-year-old taking the throne, the dalai lamas had been on the Tibetan throne for over 250 years by then, so the country was used to it,” Gardner says. “Tibet didn’t make a distinction between religious and political power. The Dalai Lama was a god in human form (Chenrezig, the bodhisattva of compassion), and he was the head of state. He could teach the path to liberation and he could negotiate international treaties. Of course, there was a cabinet and an assembly and advisors of all sorts, but these also were all monks, so the religious and political power was all unified.”
But given that the Tibetan government operated with reincarnated successors, waiting until adulthood was not an option, Gardner adds.
“They would place the child on the throne, but the regent would continue to rule the country until the Dalai Lama came of age,” he says. “Other Tibetan incarnations are enthroned in a similar way, becoming the head of a monastery while just a few years old, with abbots and other administrators actually running the place.”

The cruelty is horrifying, as is the vulnerability of the child.

Nice try, but “His Holiness” asked an innocent child to suck his tongue in public. That kid is damaged for life. Nobody did a damn thing to intervene, imagine what goes on in private!

I wasn’t defending the DL. I think the video is horrifying and I actually agree with a PP that if this had been a video of Joel Osteen the coverage would be different.

But that does not mean what happened to the DL as a vulnerable child wasn’t also horrific.

+1

Do you mean he was identified as the Dalai Lama? That was his horrific childhood? Or was he abused?

Read article On previous page. He and many other DLs are chosen from normal humble Tibetan families at 2-4 years of age, removed from their families and raised in strange ways as Demi gods by strangers. It is hardly surprising that he has poor boundaries with children himself - but no one is justifying it

Tibet is a terrible place to live in a humble family. He won the lottery. Give me a break.

You clearly have zero understanding of childhood development needs.

Please rigidly stick to your ignorant judgments but don’t pretend they are helpful except perhaps for you finding simplistic judgments that help you to reduce complexity to judgmental sound bites.

No one was justifying the DL’s behavior. There are reasons for everything and some of us prefer to understand why dysfunction is occurring rather than scream into the wind.

Groomers abound.

Imagine an elementary school principal doing this at a school function?

Imagine the Pope doing this?

Imagine any leader in any church doing this?

It’s not screaming into the wind: it’s protecting children you absolute clown.

Adults tend to prefer to understand where bad behavior is coming from so it can be prevented rather than delude themselves simplistic denunciations are solving anything.

What part of no one was justifying DL’s behavior is hard for you to grasp?

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Anonymous wrote:He took a million dollar payment from the Nexium cult and gave it cover and cache. Not the first red flag. Nexium is the cult that sexually abused, starved and BRANDED women.

This was the very first thing I thought of. DL is taking a page from the Keith Reinere playbook.

Wow I had never heard about this - and I have a sibling who was a Tibetan Buddhist for a while and our family met the DL many years ago. This sibling is no longer a TB but a hyper spiritual evangelical with strong ethics.

This is really sad that any religious leader would misuse their position of trust in such a way.

I had assumed that this behavior was due to dementia but PPs are right to question that if there is a history of corruption and cover ups.

One aspect that may contribute to this is that DLs are designated at very young ages and kept separate in all male schools. This is undoubtedly very unhealthy to be granted god like status at young ages without adequate checks and balances on moral choices as they mature.

https://www.biography.com/religious-figures/dalai-lama-throne

How the Dalai Lama Took the Throne at Age 4
The 14th spiritual leader of Tibet was recognized as the reincarnation of the 13th lama when he was just a child.
By Lesley KennedyPUBLISHED: MAY 13, 2020

Lhamo Thondup was just a 2-year-old boy, one of seven children living on a farm in a small Tibetan village, when a search party declared him the 14th Dalai Lama.
Before the discovery, he was considered an ordinary boy who spent time collecting eggs in the family’s chicken coop with his mother, according to the Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
“Another favorite occupation of mine as an infant was to pack things in a bag as if I was about to go on a long journey,” he says, according to the office. “I'm going to Lhasa, I'm going to Lhasa, I would say. This, coupled with my insistence that I be allowed always to sit at the head of the table, was later said to be an indication that I must have known that I was destined for greater things.”
…

Alexander Gardner, director and chief editor of The Treasury of Lives, a resource for the lived history of Tibet and its surrounding regions, says it is entirely normal for a child as young as 2 to be identified as a reincarnated lama.
“Particularly in the case of powerful incarnations such as the Dalai Lamas or Karmapas, the search would begin almost immediately,” he says, noting a suitable amount of time would need to pass following the death of the last lama. “The consciousness of the dead lama would have to enter the womb of the mother of the next incarnation and be born, and then they would need the child to be old enough to show signs and be subjected to tests. So 2 is reasonable; a year transition, and a child of about a year old to test.”
A search party is tasked with following a set of signs pointing them to the reincarnated lama
Armed with a series of signs, a search party, commissioned by the Tibetan government and led by high lamas and dignitaries, was dispatched to locate the new incarnation of the previous 13 dalai lamas — the first of which was born in 1391.
…

The 14th Dalai Lama has sat on the throne for more than eight decades
Recognized as the new Dalai Lama, the boy officially took the throne as the spiritual leader of Tibet at age 4 on February 22, 1940.
“In terms of a 4-year-old taking the throne, the dalai lamas had been on the Tibetan throne for over 250 years by then, so the country was used to it,” Gardner says. “Tibet didn’t make a distinction between religious and political power. The Dalai Lama was a god in human form (Chenrezig, the bodhisattva of compassion), and he was the head of state. He could teach the path to liberation and he could negotiate international treaties. Of course, there was a cabinet and an assembly and advisors of all sorts, but these also were all monks, so the religious and political power was all unified.”
But given that the Tibetan government operated with reincarnated successors, waiting until adulthood was not an option, Gardner adds.
“They would place the child on the throne, but the regent would continue to rule the country until the Dalai Lama came of age,” he says. “Other Tibetan incarnations are enthroned in a similar way, becoming the head of a monastery while just a few years old, with abbots and other administrators actually running the place.”

The cruelty is horrifying, as is the vulnerability of the child.

Nice try, but “His Holiness” asked an innocent child to suck his tongue in public. That kid is damaged for life. Nobody did a damn thing to intervene, imagine what goes on in private!

I wasn’t defending the DL. I think the video is horrifying and I actually agree with a PP that if this had been a video of Joel Osteen the coverage would be different.

But that does not mean what happened to the DL as a vulnerable child wasn’t also horrific.

+1

Do you mean he was identified as the Dalai Lama? That was his horrific childhood? Or was he abused?

Read article On previous page. He and many other DLs are chosen from normal humble Tibetan families at 2-4 years of age, removed from their families and raised in strange ways as Demi gods by strangers. It is hardly surprising that he has poor boundaries with children himself - but no one is justifying it

Tibet is a terrible place to live in a humble family. He won the lottery. Give me a break.

You clearly have zero understanding of childhood development needs.

Please rigidly stick to your ignorant judgments but don’t pretend they are helpful except perhaps for you finding simplistic judgments that help you to reduce complexity to judgmental sound bites.

No one was justifying the DL’s behavior. There are reasons for everything and some of us prefer to understand why dysfunction is occurring rather than scream into the wind.

Groomers abound.

Imagine an elementary school principal doing this at a school function?

Imagine the Pope doing this?

Imagine any leader in any church doing this?

It’s not screaming into the wind: it’s protecting children you absolute clown.

How does your DCUM post protect children.

If you take some meaningful action to reduce Child abuse, get back to us.

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Anonymous wrote:Guessing dementia.

Guessing he’s been molesting boys for years and his secret is finally out.

This. Anytime a human is treated as more than human this happens.

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Anonymous wrote:This is very disturbing and I can't help but feel like this is a real issue here. Maybe this whole time he's been been molesting kids. You really never know.

I have zero doubt that he has.

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Anonymous wrote:He took a million dollar payment from the Nexium cult and gave it cover and cache. Not the first red flag. Nexium is the cult that sexually abused, starved and BRANDED women.

This was the very first thing I thought of. DL is taking a page from the Keith Reinere playbook.

Wow I had never heard about this - and I have a sibling who was a Tibetan Buddhist for a while and our family met the DL many years ago. This sibling is no longer a TB but a hyper spiritual evangelical with strong ethics.

This is really sad that any religious leader would misuse their position of trust in such a way.

I had assumed that this behavior was due to dementia but PPs are right to question that if there is a history of corruption and cover ups.

One aspect that may contribute to this is that DLs are designated at very young ages and kept separate in all male schools. This is undoubtedly very unhealthy to be granted god like status at young ages without adequate checks and balances on moral choices as they mature.

https://www.biography.com/religious-figures/dalai-lama-throne

How the Dalai Lama Took the Throne at Age 4
The 14th spiritual leader of Tibet was recognized as the reincarnation of the 13th lama when he was just a child.
By Lesley KennedyPUBLISHED: MAY 13, 2020

Lhamo Thondup was just a 2-year-old boy, one of seven children living on a farm in a small Tibetan village, when a search party declared him the 14th Dalai Lama.
Before the discovery, he was considered an ordinary boy who spent time collecting eggs in the family’s chicken coop with his mother, according to the Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
“Another favorite occupation of mine as an infant was to pack things in a bag as if I was about to go on a long journey,” he says, according to the office. “I'm going to Lhasa, I'm going to Lhasa, I would say. This, coupled with my insistence that I be allowed always to sit at the head of the table, was later said to be an indication that I must have known that I was destined for greater things.”
…

Alexander Gardner, director and chief editor of The Treasury of Lives, a resource for the lived history of Tibet and its surrounding regions, says it is entirely normal for a child as young as 2 to be identified as a reincarnated lama.
“Particularly in the case of powerful incarnations such as the Dalai Lamas or Karmapas, the search would begin almost immediately,” he says, noting a suitable amount of time would need to pass following the death of the last lama. “The consciousness of the dead lama would have to enter the womb of the mother of the next incarnation and be born, and then they would need the child to be old enough to show signs and be subjected to tests. So 2 is reasonable; a year transition, and a child of about a year old to test.”
A search party is tasked with following a set of signs pointing them to the reincarnated lama
Armed with a series of signs, a search party, commissioned by the Tibetan government and led by high lamas and dignitaries, was dispatched to locate the new incarnation of the previous 13 dalai lamas — the first of which was born in 1391.
…

The 14th Dalai Lama has sat on the throne for more than eight decades
Recognized as the new Dalai Lama, the boy officially took the throne as the spiritual leader of Tibet at age 4 on February 22, 1940.
“In terms of a 4-year-old taking the throne, the dalai lamas had been on the Tibetan throne for over 250 years by then, so the country was used to it,” Gardner says. “Tibet didn’t make a distinction between religious and political power. The Dalai Lama was a god in human form (Chenrezig, the bodhisattva of compassion), and he was the head of state. He could teach the path to liberation and he could negotiate international treaties. Of course, there was a cabinet and an assembly and advisors of all sorts, but these also were all monks, so the religious and political power was all unified.”
But given that the Tibetan government operated with reincarnated successors, waiting until adulthood was not an option, Gardner adds.
“They would place the child on the throne, but the regent would continue to rule the country until the Dalai Lama came of age,” he says. “Other Tibetan incarnations are enthroned in a similar way, becoming the head of a monastery while just a few years old, with abbots and other administrators actually running the place.”

The cruelty is horrifying, as is the vulnerability of the child.

Nice try, but “His Holiness” asked an innocent child to suck his tongue in public. That kid is damaged for life. Nobody did a damn thing to intervene, imagine what goes on in private!

I wasn’t defending the DL. I think the video is horrifying and I actually agree with a PP that if this had been a video of Joel Osteen the coverage would be different.

But that does not mean what happened to the DL as a vulnerable child wasn’t also horrific.

+1

Do you mean he was identified as the Dalai Lama? That was his horrific childhood? Or was he abused?

Read article On previous page. He and many other DLs are chosen from normal humble Tibetan families at 2-4 years of age, removed from their families and raised in strange ways as Demi gods by strangers. It is hardly surprising that he has poor boundaries with children himself - but no one is justifying it

Tibet is a terrible place to live in a humble family. He won the lottery. Give me a break.

You clearly have zero understanding of childhood development needs.

Please rigidly stick to your ignorant judgments but don’t pretend they are helpful except perhaps for you finding simplistic judgments that help you to reduce complexity to judgmental sound bites.

No one was justifying the DL’s behavior. There are reasons for everything and some of us prefer to understand why dysfunction is occurring rather than scream into the wind.

Groomers abound.

Imagine an elementary school principal doing this at a school function?

Imagine the Pope doing this?

Imagine any leader in any church doing this?

It’s not screaming into the wind: it’s protecting children you absolute clown.

How does your DCUM post protect children.

If you take some meaningful action to reduce Child abuse, get back to us.

Plus one -

If solving problems was as simple as writing angry denunciations on DCUM about bad behavior then we would have solved world hunger, the housing crisis, gender inequities, affordable housing crisis and much more a long time ago.

Vilifying other posters who try and understand where bad behavior is coming from is not known to solve any problems.

[Anonymous]

No apology was ever needed from His Holiness. No apology. No explanation. No statement.
Because pure unadulterated acts of love, faith, and compassion DO NOT require any apology.
Because an "oothuk" -- foreheads touching to represent pure love, respect in our culture -- does not require an apology.
Because a kiss or a "po" on the lips given by elders to little children and by young children to elders is common in our culture and another sign of pure, unabashed love -- until of course, you superimpose your own hypersexualised views/culture or negative experiences on everything and view every act of pure love through that lens; in such an instance, even the sight of a grandfather kissing his own grandson will be misconstrued as "child abuse."
Because requesting His Holiness to "blow into the face" of a young child or an adult -- words that would be horribly misconstrued in any another culture -- are in our culture the very reason for hope. Hope for parents with sick children. Peace of mind for so many with a dying parent or loved one as they seek one last audience and "blow" with His Holiness before s/he passes. "Blow on my face" -- words/an act so pure in the Tibetan world are so so so very different in every other world. For the word "blow" or the act of "blow-ing" represents hope and faith and peace and contentment and fulfilment and compassion and kindness... in our culture and to our people. Words/acts that would have never been seen as such to those who have not an ounce of understanding of the Tibetan way of life, nor cared to know or understand.
And likewise the words "nge che le jip" -- such a common playful refrain by Tibetan elders and so innocent-sounding in Tibetan but not so when translated into English as "suck my tongue."
So to reiterate -- no apology was ever needed from His Holiness, irrespective of how sordid the minds of those who perceive a culture and a purity that their minds can never ever fathom as possible of existence in this world of tremendous hate and angst and lust and malicious intent.
Instead, the world OWES the Tibetan world and His Holiness, who is the very epicentre of that world, an apology. A deep, heartfelt apology for the unprecedented, unwarranted assault and attack on everything we hold dear. The attacks on His Holiness and the ease with which so-called 'woke' people have jumped to conclusions have been deeply deeply deeply hurtful for me and millions across the world.
But mainly for so many Tibetans like my 77-year-old mother who weeps through the day and has lost sleep for the past few days. Because this viscous, vitriolic, targeted attack on His Holiness has been the worst attack so far that she and so many like her have known in their nearly eight to nine decades-long years of existence. For her, this -- she told me as she called me weeping, unable to sleep past midnight -- has been "the worst attack so far on the Tibetan faith and the Tibetan way of life." And she's right. For this is a blatant attack on everything the Tibetan world holds dear -- our culture, our way of life, our innocence, our humour, our unabashed optimism, our resilience, our naïveté, and our faith.
As a Tibetan mother of three children -- two of whom have special needs -- my deepest fear now is that this incident will so drastically alter our Tibetan world and the Tibetan way of life that tomorrow even if I were to request His Holiness -- once again, as I have done in the past -- to "blow into my daughters' faces", that they will never be so privileged. And my fear is that it won't stop there -- my fear is that tomorrow, so many other Tibetan parents like us will never have that opportunity ever again for their children to receive the blessings from and witness the pure, unabashed acts of compassion and love by any other spiritual leader within the Tibetan Buddhist community ever again.
All because one day, the world decided to view an incident -- such a pure, unadulterated act of love, compassion and faith in our culture -- through their base-minded lens.
So again - to emphasize - no apology, no explanation, no statement was ever needed to be issued by His Holiness. Instead, the world owes the Tibetan world and His Holiness an apology now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
No apology was ever needed from His Holiness. No apology. No explanation. No statement.
Because pure unadulterated acts of love, faith, and compassion DO NOT require any apology.
Because an "oothuk" -- foreheads touching to represent pure love, respect in our culture -- does not require an apology.
Because a kiss or a "po" on the lips given by elders to little children and by young children to elders is common in our culture and another sign of pure, unabashed love -- until of course, you superimpose your own hypersexualised views/culture or negative experiences on everything and view every act of pure love through that lens; in such an instance, even the sight of a grandfather kissing his own grandson will be misconstrued as "child abuse."
Because requesting His Holiness to "blow into the face" of a young child or an adult -- words that would be horribly misconstrued in any another culture -- are in our culture the very reason for hope. Hope for parents with sick children. Peace of mind for so many with a dying parent or loved one as they seek one last audience and "blow" with His Holiness before s/he passes. "Blow on my face" -- words/an act so pure in the Tibetan world are so so so very different in every other world. For the word "blow" or the act of "blow-ing" represents hope and faith and peace and contentment and fulfilment and compassion and kindness... in our culture and to our people. Words/acts that would have never been seen as such to those who have not an ounce of understanding of the Tibetan way of life, nor cared to know or understand.
And likewise the words "nge che le jip" -- such a common playful refrain by Tibetan elders and so innocent-sounding in Tibetan but not so when translated into English as "suck my tongue."
So to reiterate -- no apology was ever needed from His Holiness, irrespective of how sordid the minds of those who perceive a culture and a purity that their minds can never ever fathom as possible of existence in this world of tremendous hate and angst and lust and malicious intent.
Instead, the world OWES the Tibetan world and His Holiness, who is the very epicentre of that world, an apology. A deep, heartfelt apology for the unprecedented, unwarranted assault and attack on everything we hold dear. The attacks on His Holiness and the ease with which so-called 'woke' people have jumped to conclusions have been deeply deeply deeply hurtful for me and millions across the world.
But mainly for so many Tibetans like my 77-year-old mother who weeps through the day and has lost sleep for the past few days. Because this viscous, vitriolic, targeted attack on His Holiness has been the worst attack so far that she and so many like her have known in their nearly eight to nine decades-long years of existence. For her, this -- she told me as she called me weeping, unable to sleep past midnight -- has been "the worst attack so far on the Tibetan faith and the Tibetan way of life." And she's right. For this is a blatant attack on everything the Tibetan world holds dear -- our culture, our way of life, our innocence, our humour, our unabashed optimism, our resilience, our naïveté, and our faith.
As a Tibetan mother of three children -- two of whom have special needs -- my deepest fear now is that this incident will so drastically alter our Tibetan world and the Tibetan way of life that tomorrow even if I were to request His Holiness -- once again, as I have done in the past -- to "blow into my daughters' faces", that they will never be so privileged. And my fear is that it won't stop there -- my fear is that tomorrow, so many other Tibetan parents like us will never have that opportunity ever again for their children to receive the blessings from and witness the pure, unabashed acts of compassion and love by any other spiritual leader within the Tibetan Buddhist community ever again.
All because one day, the world decided to view an incident -- such a pure, unadulterated act of love, compassion and faith in our culture -- through their base-minded lens.
So again - to emphasize - no apology, no explanation, no statement was ever needed to be issued by His Holiness. Instead, the world owes the Tibetan world and His Holiness an apology now.

I can't believe I got called out for being a chinese propagandist for saying Tibet is a sh*thole and then we get this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ lmaooooo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meh, I think this dude was just being a goofball. He’s always had a weird sense of humor.

There is nothing funny about it. Wildly inappropriate and I am so disgusted by comments like this that normalize or dismiss these kinds of behaviors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
No apology was ever needed from His Holiness. No apology. No explanation. No statement.
Because pure unadulterated acts of love, faith, and compassion DO NOT require any apology.
Because an "oothuk" -- foreheads touching to represent pure love, respect in our culture -- does not require an apology.
Because a kiss or a "po" on the lips given by elders to little children and by young children to elders is common in our culture and another sign of pure, unabashed love -- until of course, you superimpose your own hypersexualised views/culture or negative experiences on everything and view every act of pure love through that lens; in such an instance, even the sight of a grandfather kissing his own grandson will be misconstrued as "child abuse."
Because requesting His Holiness to "blow into the face" of a young child or an adult -- words that would be horribly misconstrued in any another culture -- are in our culture the very reason for hope. Hope for parents with sick children. Peace of mind for so many with a dying parent or loved one as they seek one last audience and "blow" with His Holiness before s/he passes. "Blow on my face" -- words/an act so pure in the Tibetan world are so so so very different in every other world. For the word "blow" or the act of "blow-ing" represents hope and faith and peace and contentment and fulfilment and compassion and kindness... in our culture and to our people. Words/acts that would have never been seen as such to those who have not an ounce of understanding of the Tibetan way of life, nor cared to know or understand.
And likewise the words "nge che le jip" -- such a common playful refrain by Tibetan elders and so innocent-sounding in Tibetan but not so when translated into English as "suck my tongue."
So to reiterate -- no apology was ever needed from His Holiness, irrespective of how sordid the minds of those who perceive a culture and a purity that their minds can never ever fathom as possible of existence in this world of tremendous hate and angst and lust and malicious intent.
Instead, the world OWES the Tibetan world and His Holiness, who is the very epicentre of that world, an apology. A deep, heartfelt apology for the unprecedented, unwarranted assault and attack on everything we hold dear. The attacks on His Holiness and the ease with which so-called 'woke' people have jumped to conclusions have been deeply deeply deeply hurtful for me and millions across the world.
But mainly for so many Tibetans like my 77-year-old mother who weeps through the day and has lost sleep for the past few days. Because this viscous, vitriolic, targeted attack on His Holiness has been the worst attack so far that she and so many like her have known in their nearly eight to nine decades-long years of existence. For her, this -- she told me as she called me weeping, unable to sleep past midnight -- has been "the worst attack so far on the Tibetan faith and the Tibetan way of life." And she's right. For this is a blatant attack on everything the Tibetan world holds dear -- our culture, our way of life, our innocence, our humour, our unabashed optimism, our resilience, our naïveté, and our faith.
As a Tibetan mother of three children -- two of whom have special needs -- my deepest fear now is that this incident will so drastically alter our Tibetan world and the Tibetan way of life that tomorrow even if I were to request His Holiness -- once again, as I have done in the past -- to "blow into my daughters' faces", that they will never be so privileged. And my fear is that it won't stop there -- my fear is that tomorrow, so many other Tibetan parents like us will never have that opportunity ever again for their children to receive the blessings from and witness the pure, unabashed acts of compassion and love by any other spiritual leader within the Tibetan Buddhist community ever again.
All because one day, the world decided to view an incident -- such a pure, unadulterated act of love, compassion and faith in our culture -- through their base-minded lens.
So again - to emphasize - no apology, no explanation, no statement was ever needed to be issued by His Holiness. Instead, the world owes the Tibetan world and His Holiness an apology now.

This reads like parody and this was not posted earlier

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
No apology was ever needed from His Holiness. No apology. No explanation. No statement.
Because pure unadulterated acts of love, faith, and compassion DO NOT require any apology.
Because an "oothuk" -- foreheads touching to represent pure love, respect in our culture -- does not require an apology.
Because a kiss or a "po" on the lips given by elders to little children and by young children to elders is common in our culture and another sign of pure, unabashed love -- until of course, you superimpose your own hypersexualised views/culture or negative experiences on everything and view every act of pure love through that lens; in such an instance, even the sight of a grandfather kissing his own grandson will be misconstrued as "child abuse."
Because requesting His Holiness to "blow into the face" of a young child or an adult -- words that would be horribly misconstrued in any another culture -- are in our culture the very reason for hope. Hope for parents with sick children. Peace of mind for so many with a dying parent or loved one as they seek one last audience and "blow" with His Holiness before s/he passes. "Blow on my face" -- words/an act so pure in the Tibetan world are so so so very different in every other world. For the word "blow" or the act of "blow-ing" represents hope and faith and peace and contentment and fulfilment and compassion and kindness... in our culture and to our people. Words/acts that would have never been seen as such to those who have not an ounce of understanding of the Tibetan way of life, nor cared to know or understand.
And likewise the words "nge che le jip" -- such a common playful refrain by Tibetan elders and so innocent-sounding in Tibetan but not so when translated into English as "suck my tongue."
So to reiterate -- no apology was ever needed from His Holiness, irrespective of how sordid the minds of those who perceive a culture and a purity that their minds can never ever fathom as possible of existence in this world of tremendous hate and angst and lust and malicious intent.
Instead, the world OWES the Tibetan world and His Holiness, who is the very epicentre of that world, an apology. A deep, heartfelt apology for the unprecedented, unwarranted assault and attack on everything we hold dear. The attacks on His Holiness and the ease with which so-called 'woke' people have jumped to conclusions have been deeply deeply deeply hurtful for me and millions across the world.
But mainly for so many Tibetans like my 77-year-old mother who weeps through the day and has lost sleep for the past few days. Because this viscous, vitriolic, targeted attack on His Holiness has been the worst attack so far that she and so many like her have known in their nearly eight to nine decades-long years of existence. For her, this -- she told me as she called me weeping, unable to sleep past midnight -- has been "the worst attack so far on the Tibetan faith and the Tibetan way of life." And she's right. For this is a blatant attack on everything the Tibetan world holds dear -- our culture, our way of life, our innocence, our humour, our unabashed optimism, our resilience, our naïveté, and our faith.
As a Tibetan mother of three children -- two of whom have special needs -- my deepest fear now is that this incident will so drastically alter our Tibetan world and the Tibetan way of life that tomorrow even if I were to request His Holiness -- once again, as I have done in the past -- to "blow into my daughters' faces", that they will never be so privileged. And my fear is that it won't stop there -- my fear is that tomorrow, so many other Tibetan parents like us will never have that opportunity ever again for their children to receive the blessings from and witness the pure, unabashed acts of compassion and love by any other spiritual leader within the Tibetan Buddhist community ever again.
All because one day, the world decided to view an incident -- such a pure, unadulterated act of love, compassion and faith in our culture -- through their base-minded lens.
So again - to emphasize - no apology, no explanation, no statement was ever needed to be issued by His Holiness. Instead, the world owes the Tibetan world and His Holiness an apology now.

I can't believe I got called out for being a chinese propagandist for saying Tibet is a sh*thole and then we get this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ lmaooooo

The vast majority of responders agreed his behavior was wildly inappropriate and not right. People were not calling that point out but the angry shut downs of attempts to understand why his own early abnormal early childhood contributed to his deviant behavior.

No normal adult condones any form of child abuse.