Dalai Lama asks kid to suck his tongue

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guessing dementia.

No.

Did not say it was ok. If he was a big pedo all along it would have come out by now. He should no longer be mixing with public and kept from young people and children. Something is off here.

Not true.

Imagine Joel Osteen asking a child to kiss him and suck his tongue on camera? The posters here would have a melt down, which should happen. But because it is the Dalai Lama, it’s a meh and lots of excuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guessing dementia.

No.

Did not say it was ok. If he was a big pedo all along it would have come out by now. He should no longer be mixing with public and kept from young people and children. Something is off here.

Not true.

Imagine Joel Osteen asking a child to kiss him and suck his tongue on camera? The posters here would have a melt down, which should happen. But because it is the Dalai Lama, it’s a meh and lots of excuses.

Plus one

The hypocrisy runs deep

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He took a million dollar payment from the Nexium cult and gave it cover and cache. Not the first red flag. Nexium is the cult that sexually abused, starved and BRANDED women.

This was the very first thing I thought of. DL is taking a page from the Keith Reinere playbook.

Wow I had never heard about this - and I have a sibling who was a Tibetan Buddhist for a while and our family met the DL many years ago. This sibling is no longer a TB but a hyper spiritual evangelical with strong ethics.

This is really sad that any religious leader would misuse their position of trust in such a way.

I had assumed that this behavior was due to dementia but PPs are right to question that if there is a history of corruption and cover ups.

One aspect that may contribute to this is that DLs are designated at very young ages and kept separate in all male schools. This is undoubtedly very unhealthy to be granted god like status at young ages without adequate checks and balances on moral choices as they mature.

https://www.biography.com/religious-figures/dalai-lama-throne

How the Dalai Lama Took the Throne at Age 4
The 14th spiritual leader of Tibet was recognized as the reincarnation of the 13th lama when he was just a child.
By Lesley KennedyPUBLISHED: MAY 13, 2020

Lhamo Thondup was just a 2-year-old boy, one of seven children living on a farm in a small Tibetan village, when a search party declared him the 14th Dalai Lama.
Before the discovery, he was considered an ordinary boy who spent time collecting eggs in the family’s chicken coop with his mother, according to the Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
“Another favorite occupation of mine as an infant was to pack things in a bag as if I was about to go on a long journey,” he says, according to the office. “I'm going to Lhasa, I'm going to Lhasa, I would say. This, coupled with my insistence that I be allowed always to sit at the head of the table, was later said to be an indication that I must have known that I was destined for greater things.”
…

Alexander Gardner, director and chief editor of The Treasury of Lives, a resource for the lived history of Tibet and its surrounding regions, says it is entirely normal for a child as young as 2 to be identified as a reincarnated lama.
“Particularly in the case of powerful incarnations such as the Dalai Lamas or Karmapas, the search would begin almost immediately,” he says, noting a suitable amount of time would need to pass following the death of the last lama. “The consciousness of the dead lama would have to enter the womb of the mother of the next incarnation and be born, and then they would need the child to be old enough to show signs and be subjected to tests. So 2 is reasonable; a year transition, and a child of about a year old to test.”
A search party is tasked with following a set of signs pointing them to the reincarnated lama
Armed with a series of signs, a search party, commissioned by the Tibetan government and led by high lamas and dignitaries, was dispatched to locate the new incarnation of the previous 13 dalai lamas — the first of which was born in 1391.
…

The 14th Dalai Lama has sat on the throne for more than eight decades
Recognized as the new Dalai Lama, the boy officially took the throne as the spiritual leader of Tibet at age 4 on February 22, 1940.
“In terms of a 4-year-old taking the throne, the dalai lamas had been on the Tibetan throne for over 250 years by then, so the country was used to it,” Gardner says. “Tibet didn’t make a distinction between religious and political power. The Dalai Lama was a god in human form (Chenrezig, the bodhisattva of compassion), and he was the head of state. He could teach the path to liberation and he could negotiate international treaties. Of course, there was a cabinet and an assembly and advisors of all sorts, but these also were all monks, so the religious and political power was all unified.”
But given that the Tibetan government operated with reincarnated successors, waiting until adulthood was not an option, Gardner adds.
“They would place the child on the throne, but the regent would continue to rule the country until the Dalai Lama came of age,” he says. “Other Tibetan incarnations are enthroned in a similar way, becoming the head of a monastery while just a few years old, with abbots and other administrators actually running the place.”

The cruelty is horrifying, as is the vulnerability of the child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He took a million dollar payment from the Nexium cult and gave it cover and cache. Not the first red flag. Nexium is the cult that sexually abused, starved and BRANDED women.

This was the very first thing I thought of. DL is taking a page from the Keith Reinere playbook.

Wow I had never heard about this - and I have a sibling who was a Tibetan Buddhist for a while and our family met the DL many years ago. This sibling is no longer a TB but a hyper spiritual evangelical with strong ethics.

This is really sad that any religious leader would misuse their position of trust in such a way.

I had assumed that this behavior was due to dementia but PPs are right to question that if there is a history of corruption and cover ups.

One aspect that may contribute to this is that DLs are designated at very young ages and kept separate in all male schools. This is undoubtedly very unhealthy to be granted god like status at young ages without adequate checks and balances on moral choices as they mature.

https://www.biography.com/religious-figures/dalai-lama-throne

How the Dalai Lama Took the Throne at Age 4
The 14th spiritual leader of Tibet was recognized as the reincarnation of the 13th lama when he was just a child.
By Lesley KennedyPUBLISHED: MAY 13, 2020

Lhamo Thondup was just a 2-year-old boy, one of seven children living on a farm in a small Tibetan village, when a search party declared him the 14th Dalai Lama.
Before the discovery, he was considered an ordinary boy who spent time collecting eggs in the family’s chicken coop with his mother, according to the Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
“Another favorite occupation of mine as an infant was to pack things in a bag as if I was about to go on a long journey,” he says, according to the office. “I'm going to Lhasa, I'm going to Lhasa, I would say. This, coupled with my insistence that I be allowed always to sit at the head of the table, was later said to be an indication that I must have known that I was destined for greater things.”
…

Alexander Gardner, director and chief editor of The Treasury of Lives, a resource for the lived history of Tibet and its surrounding regions, says it is entirely normal for a child as young as 2 to be identified as a reincarnated lama.
“Particularly in the case of powerful incarnations such as the Dalai Lamas or Karmapas, the search would begin almost immediately,” he says, noting a suitable amount of time would need to pass following the death of the last lama. “The consciousness of the dead lama would have to enter the womb of the mother of the next incarnation and be born, and then they would need the child to be old enough to show signs and be subjected to tests. So 2 is reasonable; a year transition, and a child of about a year old to test.”
A search party is tasked with following a set of signs pointing them to the reincarnated lama
Armed with a series of signs, a search party, commissioned by the Tibetan government and led by high lamas and dignitaries, was dispatched to locate the new incarnation of the previous 13 dalai lamas — the first of which was born in 1391.
…

The 14th Dalai Lama has sat on the throne for more than eight decades
Recognized as the new Dalai Lama, the boy officially took the throne as the spiritual leader of Tibet at age 4 on February 22, 1940.
“In terms of a 4-year-old taking the throne, the dalai lamas had been on the Tibetan throne for over 250 years by then, so the country was used to it,” Gardner says. “Tibet didn’t make a distinction between religious and political power. The Dalai Lama was a god in human form (Chenrezig, the bodhisattva of compassion), and he was the head of state. He could teach the path to liberation and he could negotiate international treaties. Of course, there was a cabinet and an assembly and advisors of all sorts, but these also were all monks, so the religious and political power was all unified.”
But given that the Tibetan government operated with reincarnated successors, waiting until adulthood was not an option, Gardner adds.
“They would place the child on the throne, but the regent would continue to rule the country until the Dalai Lama came of age,” he says. “Other Tibetan incarnations are enthroned in a similar way, becoming the head of a monastery while just a few years old, with abbots and other administrators actually running the place.”

The cruelty is horrifying, as is the vulnerability of the child.

Nice try, but “His Holiness” asked an innocent child to suck his tongue in public. That kid is damaged for life. Nobody did a damn thing to intervene, imagine what goes on in private!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He took a million dollar payment from the Nexium cult and gave it cover and cache. Not the first red flag. Nexium is the cult that sexually abused, starved and BRANDED women.

This was the very first thing I thought of. DL is taking a page from the Keith Reinere playbook.

Wow I had never heard about this - and I have a sibling who was a Tibetan Buddhist for a while and our family met the DL many years ago. This sibling is no longer a TB but a hyper spiritual evangelical with strong ethics.

This is really sad that any religious leader would misuse their position of trust in such a way.

I had assumed that this behavior was due to dementia but PPs are right to question that if there is a history of corruption and cover ups.

One aspect that may contribute to this is that DLs are designated at very young ages and kept separate in all male schools. This is undoubtedly very unhealthy to be granted god like status at young ages without adequate checks and balances on moral choices as they mature.

https://www.biography.com/religious-figures/dalai-lama-throne

How the Dalai Lama Took the Throne at Age 4
The 14th spiritual leader of Tibet was recognized as the reincarnation of the 13th lama when he was just a child.
By Lesley KennedyPUBLISHED: MAY 13, 2020

Lhamo Thondup was just a 2-year-old boy, one of seven children living on a farm in a small Tibetan village, when a search party declared him the 14th Dalai Lama.
Before the discovery, he was considered an ordinary boy who spent time collecting eggs in the family’s chicken coop with his mother, according to the Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
“Another favorite occupation of mine as an infant was to pack things in a bag as if I was about to go on a long journey,” he says, according to the office. “I'm going to Lhasa, I'm going to Lhasa, I would say. This, coupled with my insistence that I be allowed always to sit at the head of the table, was later said to be an indication that I must have known that I was destined for greater things.”
…

Alexander Gardner, director and chief editor of The Treasury of Lives, a resource for the lived history of Tibet and its surrounding regions, says it is entirely normal for a child as young as 2 to be identified as a reincarnated lama.
“Particularly in the case of powerful incarnations such as the Dalai Lamas or Karmapas, the search would begin almost immediately,” he says, noting a suitable amount of time would need to pass following the death of the last lama. “The consciousness of the dead lama would have to enter the womb of the mother of the next incarnation and be born, and then they would need the child to be old enough to show signs and be subjected to tests. So 2 is reasonable; a year transition, and a child of about a year old to test.”
A search party is tasked with following a set of signs pointing them to the reincarnated lama
Armed with a series of signs, a search party, commissioned by the Tibetan government and led by high lamas and dignitaries, was dispatched to locate the new incarnation of the previous 13 dalai lamas — the first of which was born in 1391.
…

The 14th Dalai Lama has sat on the throne for more than eight decades
Recognized as the new Dalai Lama, the boy officially took the throne as the spiritual leader of Tibet at age 4 on February 22, 1940.
“In terms of a 4-year-old taking the throne, the dalai lamas had been on the Tibetan throne for over 250 years by then, so the country was used to it,” Gardner says. “Tibet didn’t make a distinction between religious and political power. The Dalai Lama was a god in human form (Chenrezig, the bodhisattva of compassion), and he was the head of state. He could teach the path to liberation and he could negotiate international treaties. Of course, there was a cabinet and an assembly and advisors of all sorts, but these also were all monks, so the religious and political power was all unified.”
But given that the Tibetan government operated with reincarnated successors, waiting until adulthood was not an option, Gardner adds.
“They would place the child on the throne, but the regent would continue to rule the country until the Dalai Lama came of age,” he says. “Other Tibetan incarnations are enthroned in a similar way, becoming the head of a monastery while just a few years old, with abbots and other administrators actually running the place.”

The cruelty is horrifying, as is the vulnerability of the child.

Nice try, but “His Holiness” asked an innocent child to suck his tongue in public. That kid is damaged for life. Nobody did a damn thing to intervene, imagine what goes on in private!

DP

Both things came be true.

One can rightfully call out the DL and his enablers for carrying on like this with children.

One can have compassion for the cruelty of DL’s lost childhood and his bizarre upbringing and Demi god status from toddler years.

They do not have to be in conflict.

A large number of pedophiles were themselves abused when young and are perpetuating child abuse unconsciously. That does not justify their behavior but helps us to understand where the depravity comes from.

[Anonymous]

Tibetan buddhist monks were sexually abusing children throughout history, as well as keeping slaves of both adults and children, until China came in and forcefully civilized their society

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He took a million dollar payment from the Nexium cult and gave it cover and cache. Not the first red flag. Nexium is the cult that sexually abused, starved and BRANDED women.

This was the very first thing I thought of. DL is taking a page from the Keith Reinere playbook.

Wow I had never heard about this - and I have a sibling who was a Tibetan Buddhist for a while and our family met the DL many years ago. This sibling is no longer a TB but a hyper spiritual evangelical with strong ethics.

This is really sad that any religious leader would misuse their position of trust in such a way.

I had assumed that this behavior was due to dementia but PPs are right to question that if there is a history of corruption and cover ups.

One aspect that may contribute to this is that DLs are designated at very young ages and kept separate in all male schools. This is undoubtedly very unhealthy to be granted god like status at young ages without adequate checks and balances on moral choices as they mature.

https://www.biography.com/religious-figures/dalai-lama-throne

How the Dalai Lama Took the Throne at Age 4
The 14th spiritual leader of Tibet was recognized as the reincarnation of the 13th lama when he was just a child.
By Lesley KennedyPUBLISHED: MAY 13, 2020

Lhamo Thondup was just a 2-year-old boy, one of seven children living on a farm in a small Tibetan village, when a search party declared him the 14th Dalai Lama.
Before the discovery, he was considered an ordinary boy who spent time collecting eggs in the family’s chicken coop with his mother, according to the Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
“Another favorite occupation of mine as an infant was to pack things in a bag as if I was about to go on a long journey,” he says, according to the office. “I'm going to Lhasa, I'm going to Lhasa, I would say. This, coupled with my insistence that I be allowed always to sit at the head of the table, was later said to be an indication that I must have known that I was destined for greater things.”
…

Alexander Gardner, director and chief editor of The Treasury of Lives, a resource for the lived history of Tibet and its surrounding regions, says it is entirely normal for a child as young as 2 to be identified as a reincarnated lama.
“Particularly in the case of powerful incarnations such as the Dalai Lamas or Karmapas, the search would begin almost immediately,” he says, noting a suitable amount of time would need to pass following the death of the last lama. “The consciousness of the dead lama would have to enter the womb of the mother of the next incarnation and be born, and then they would need the child to be old enough to show signs and be subjected to tests. So 2 is reasonable; a year transition, and a child of about a year old to test.”
A search party is tasked with following a set of signs pointing them to the reincarnated lama
Armed with a series of signs, a search party, commissioned by the Tibetan government and led by high lamas and dignitaries, was dispatched to locate the new incarnation of the previous 13 dalai lamas — the first of which was born in 1391.
…

The 14th Dalai Lama has sat on the throne for more than eight decades
Recognized as the new Dalai Lama, the boy officially took the throne as the spiritual leader of Tibet at age 4 on February 22, 1940.
“In terms of a 4-year-old taking the throne, the dalai lamas had been on the Tibetan throne for over 250 years by then, so the country was used to it,” Gardner says. “Tibet didn’t make a distinction between religious and political power. The Dalai Lama was a god in human form (Chenrezig, the bodhisattva of compassion), and he was the head of state. He could teach the path to liberation and he could negotiate international treaties. Of course, there was a cabinet and an assembly and advisors of all sorts, but these also were all monks, so the religious and political power was all unified.”
But given that the Tibetan government operated with reincarnated successors, waiting until adulthood was not an option, Gardner adds.
“They would place the child on the throne, but the regent would continue to rule the country until the Dalai Lama came of age,” he says. “Other Tibetan incarnations are enthroned in a similar way, becoming the head of a monastery while just a few years old, with abbots and other administrators actually running the place.”

The cruelty is horrifying, as is the vulnerability of the child.

Nice try, but “His Holiness” asked an innocent child to suck his tongue in public. That kid is damaged for life. Nobody did a damn thing to intervene, imagine what goes on in private!

DP

Both things came be true.

One can rightfully call out the DL and his enablers for carrying on like this with children.

One can have compassion for the cruelty of DL’s lost childhood and his bizarre upbringing and Demi god status from toddler years.

They do not have to be in conflict.

A large number of pedophiles were themselves abused when young and are perpetuating child abuse unconsciously. That does not justify their behavior but helps us to understand where the depravity comes from.

Yeah suddenly it’s all about compassion for pedophiles. You are a sick sick person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He took a million dollar payment from the Nexium cult and gave it cover and cache. Not the first red flag. Nexium is the cult that sexually abused, starved and BRANDED women.

This was the very first thing I thought of. DL is taking a page from the Keith Reinere playbook.

Wow I had never heard about this - and I have a sibling who was a Tibetan Buddhist for a while and our family met the DL many years ago. This sibling is no longer a TB but a hyper spiritual evangelical with strong ethics.

This is really sad that any religious leader would misuse their position of trust in such a way.

I had assumed that this behavior was due to dementia but PPs are right to question that if there is a history of corruption and cover ups.

One aspect that may contribute to this is that DLs are designated at very young ages and kept separate in all male schools. This is undoubtedly very unhealthy to be granted god like status at young ages without adequate checks and balances on moral choices as they mature.

https://www.biography.com/religious-figures/dalai-lama-throne

How the Dalai Lama Took the Throne at Age 4
The 14th spiritual leader of Tibet was recognized as the reincarnation of the 13th lama when he was just a child.
By Lesley KennedyPUBLISHED: MAY 13, 2020

Lhamo Thondup was just a 2-year-old boy, one of seven children living on a farm in a small Tibetan village, when a search party declared him the 14th Dalai Lama.
Before the discovery, he was considered an ordinary boy who spent time collecting eggs in the family’s chicken coop with his mother, according to the Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
“Another favorite occupation of mine as an infant was to pack things in a bag as if I was about to go on a long journey,” he says, according to the office. “I'm going to Lhasa, I'm going to Lhasa, I would say. This, coupled with my insistence that I be allowed always to sit at the head of the table, was later said to be an indication that I must have known that I was destined for greater things.”
…

Alexander Gardner, director and chief editor of The Treasury of Lives, a resource for the lived history of Tibet and its surrounding regions, says it is entirely normal for a child as young as 2 to be identified as a reincarnated lama.
“Particularly in the case of powerful incarnations such as the Dalai Lamas or Karmapas, the search would begin almost immediately,” he says, noting a suitable amount of time would need to pass following the death of the last lama. “The consciousness of the dead lama would have to enter the womb of the mother of the next incarnation and be born, and then they would need the child to be old enough to show signs and be subjected to tests. So 2 is reasonable; a year transition, and a child of about a year old to test.”
A search party is tasked with following a set of signs pointing them to the reincarnated lama
Armed with a series of signs, a search party, commissioned by the Tibetan government and led by high lamas and dignitaries, was dispatched to locate the new incarnation of the previous 13 dalai lamas — the first of which was born in 1391.
…

The 14th Dalai Lama has sat on the throne for more than eight decades
Recognized as the new Dalai Lama, the boy officially took the throne as the spiritual leader of Tibet at age 4 on February 22, 1940.
“In terms of a 4-year-old taking the throne, the dalai lamas had been on the Tibetan throne for over 250 years by then, so the country was used to it,” Gardner says. “Tibet didn’t make a distinction between religious and political power. The Dalai Lama was a god in human form (Chenrezig, the bodhisattva of compassion), and he was the head of state. He could teach the path to liberation and he could negotiate international treaties. Of course, there was a cabinet and an assembly and advisors of all sorts, but these also were all monks, so the religious and political power was all unified.”
But given that the Tibetan government operated with reincarnated successors, waiting until adulthood was not an option, Gardner adds.
“They would place the child on the throne, but the regent would continue to rule the country until the Dalai Lama came of age,” he says. “Other Tibetan incarnations are enthroned in a similar way, becoming the head of a monastery while just a few years old, with abbots and other administrators actually running the place.”

The cruelty is horrifying, as is the vulnerability of the child.

Nice try, but “His Holiness” asked an innocent child to suck his tongue in public. That kid is damaged for life. Nobody did a damn thing to intervene, imagine what goes on in private!

DP

Both things came be true.

One can rightfully call out the DL and his enablers for carrying on like this with children.

One can have compassion for the cruelty of DL’s lost childhood and his bizarre upbringing and Demi god status from toddler years.

They do not have to be in conflict.

A large number of pedophiles were themselves abused when young and are perpetuating child abuse unconsciously. That does not justify their behavior but helps us to understand where the depravity comes from.

Yeah suddenly it’s all about compassion for pedophiles. You are a sick sick person.

No one mentioned "compassion for pedohiles" until you, so you look like the sick person here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He took a million dollar payment from the Nexium cult and gave it cover and cache. Not the first red flag. Nexium is the cult that sexually abused, starved and BRANDED women.

This was the very first thing I thought of. DL is taking a page from the Keith Reinere playbook.

Wow I had never heard about this - and I have a sibling who was a Tibetan Buddhist for a while and our family met the DL many years ago. This sibling is no longer a TB but a hyper spiritual evangelical with strong ethics.

This is really sad that any religious leader would misuse their position of trust in such a way.

I had assumed that this behavior was due to dementia but PPs are right to question that if there is a history of corruption and cover ups.

One aspect that may contribute to this is that DLs are designated at very young ages and kept separate in all male schools. This is undoubtedly very unhealthy to be granted god like status at young ages without adequate checks and balances on moral choices as they mature.

https://www.biography.com/religious-figures/dalai-lama-throne

How the Dalai Lama Took the Throne at Age 4
The 14th spiritual leader of Tibet was recognized as the reincarnation of the 13th lama when he was just a child.
By Lesley KennedyPUBLISHED: MAY 13, 2020

Lhamo Thondup was just a 2-year-old boy, one of seven children living on a farm in a small Tibetan village, when a search party declared him the 14th Dalai Lama.
Before the discovery, he was considered an ordinary boy who spent time collecting eggs in the family’s chicken coop with his mother, according to the Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
“Another favorite occupation of mine as an infant was to pack things in a bag as if I was about to go on a long journey,” he says, according to the office. “I'm going to Lhasa, I'm going to Lhasa, I would say. This, coupled with my insistence that I be allowed always to sit at the head of the table, was later said to be an indication that I must have known that I was destined for greater things.”
…

Alexander Gardner, director and chief editor of The Treasury of Lives, a resource for the lived history of Tibet and its surrounding regions, says it is entirely normal for a child as young as 2 to be identified as a reincarnated lama.
“Particularly in the case of powerful incarnations such as the Dalai Lamas or Karmapas, the search would begin almost immediately,” he says, noting a suitable amount of time would need to pass following the death of the last lama. “The consciousness of the dead lama would have to enter the womb of the mother of the next incarnation and be born, and then they would need the child to be old enough to show signs and be subjected to tests. So 2 is reasonable; a year transition, and a child of about a year old to test.”
A search party is tasked with following a set of signs pointing them to the reincarnated lama
Armed with a series of signs, a search party, commissioned by the Tibetan government and led by high lamas and dignitaries, was dispatched to locate the new incarnation of the previous 13 dalai lamas — the first of which was born in 1391.
…

The 14th Dalai Lama has sat on the throne for more than eight decades
Recognized as the new Dalai Lama, the boy officially took the throne as the spiritual leader of Tibet at age 4 on February 22, 1940.
“In terms of a 4-year-old taking the throne, the dalai lamas had been on the Tibetan throne for over 250 years by then, so the country was used to it,” Gardner says. “Tibet didn’t make a distinction between religious and political power. The Dalai Lama was a god in human form (Chenrezig, the bodhisattva of compassion), and he was the head of state. He could teach the path to liberation and he could negotiate international treaties. Of course, there was a cabinet and an assembly and advisors of all sorts, but these also were all monks, so the religious and political power was all unified.”
But given that the Tibetan government operated with reincarnated successors, waiting until adulthood was not an option, Gardner adds.
“They would place the child on the throne, but the regent would continue to rule the country until the Dalai Lama came of age,” he says. “Other Tibetan incarnations are enthroned in a similar way, becoming the head of a monastery while just a few years old, with abbots and other administrators actually running the place.”

The cruelty is horrifying, as is the vulnerability of the child.

Nice try, but “His Holiness” asked an innocent child to suck his tongue in public. That kid is damaged for life. Nobody did a damn thing to intervene, imagine what goes on in private!

DP

Both things came be true.

One can rightfully call out the DL and his enablers for carrying on like this with children.

One can have compassion for the cruelty of DL’s lost childhood and his bizarre upbringing and Demi god status from toddler years.

They do not have to be in conflict.

A large number of pedophiles were themselves abused when young and are perpetuating child abuse unconsciously. That does not justify their behavior but helps us to understand where the depravity comes from.

Yeah suddenly it’s all about compassion for pedophiles. You are a sick sick person.

to manage mental illness and deviant behaviors, and to stop cycles of abuse, we need to understand them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He took a million dollar payment from the Nexium cult and gave it cover and cache. Not the first red flag. Nexium is the cult that sexually abused, starved and BRANDED women.

This was the very first thing I thought of. DL is taking a page from the Keith Reinere playbook.

Wow I had never heard about this - and I have a sibling who was a Tibetan Buddhist for a while and our family met the DL many years ago. This sibling is no longer a TB but a hyper spiritual evangelical with strong ethics.

This is really sad that any religious leader would misuse their position of trust in such a way.

I had assumed that this behavior was due to dementia but PPs are right to question that if there is a history of corruption and cover ups.

One aspect that may contribute to this is that DLs are designated at very young ages and kept separate in all male schools. This is undoubtedly very unhealthy to be granted god like status at young ages without adequate checks and balances on moral choices as they mature.

https://www.biography.com/religious-figures/dalai-lama-throne

How the Dalai Lama Took the Throne at Age 4
The 14th spiritual leader of Tibet was recognized as the reincarnation of the 13th lama when he was just a child.
By Lesley KennedyPUBLISHED: MAY 13, 2020

Lhamo Thondup was just a 2-year-old boy, one of seven children living on a farm in a small Tibetan village, when a search party declared him the 14th Dalai Lama.
Before the discovery, he was considered an ordinary boy who spent time collecting eggs in the family’s chicken coop with his mother, according to the Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
“Another favorite occupation of mine as an infant was to pack things in a bag as if I was about to go on a long journey,” he says, according to the office. “I'm going to Lhasa, I'm going to Lhasa, I would say. This, coupled with my insistence that I be allowed always to sit at the head of the table, was later said to be an indication that I must have known that I was destined for greater things.”
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Alexander Gardner, director and chief editor of The Treasury of Lives, a resource for the lived history of Tibet and its surrounding regions, says it is entirely normal for a child as young as 2 to be identified as a reincarnated lama.
“Particularly in the case of powerful incarnations such as the Dalai Lamas or Karmapas, the search would begin almost immediately,” he says, noting a suitable amount of time would need to pass following the death of the last lama. “The consciousness of the dead lama would have to enter the womb of the mother of the next incarnation and be born, and then they would need the child to be old enough to show signs and be subjected to tests. So 2 is reasonable; a year transition, and a child of about a year old to test.”
A search party is tasked with following a set of signs pointing them to the reincarnated lama
Armed with a series of signs, a search party, commissioned by the Tibetan government and led by high lamas and dignitaries, was dispatched to locate the new incarnation of the previous 13 dalai lamas — the first of which was born in 1391.
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The 14th Dalai Lama has sat on the throne for more than eight decades
Recognized as the new Dalai Lama, the boy officially took the throne as the spiritual leader of Tibet at age 4 on February 22, 1940.
“In terms of a 4-year-old taking the throne, the dalai lamas had been on the Tibetan throne for over 250 years by then, so the country was used to it,” Gardner says. “Tibet didn’t make a distinction between religious and political power. The Dalai Lama was a god in human form (Chenrezig, the bodhisattva of compassion), and he was the head of state. He could teach the path to liberation and he could negotiate international treaties. Of course, there was a cabinet and an assembly and advisors of all sorts, but these also were all monks, so the religious and political power was all unified.”
But given that the Tibetan government operated with reincarnated successors, waiting until adulthood was not an option, Gardner adds.
“They would place the child on the throne, but the regent would continue to rule the country until the Dalai Lama came of age,” he says. “Other Tibetan incarnations are enthroned in a similar way, becoming the head of a monastery while just a few years old, with abbots and other administrators actually running the place.”

The cruelty is horrifying, as is the vulnerability of the child.

Nice try, but “His Holiness” asked an innocent child to suck his tongue in public. That kid is damaged for life. Nobody did a damn thing to intervene, imagine what goes on in private!

DP

Both things came be true.

One can rightfully call out the DL and his enablers for carrying on like this with children.

One can have compassion for the cruelty of DL’s lost childhood and his bizarre upbringing and Demi god status from toddler years.

They do not have to be in conflict.

A large number of pedophiles were themselves abused when young and are perpetuating child abuse unconsciously. That does not justify their behavior but helps us to understand where the depravity comes from.

Who was the regent?

I am sure the kid has ZERO say in what he did and what was done to him.

Plus, if you are not allowed to express human sexuality, it might well get channeled in unhealthy ways (see priests).

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Anonymous wrote:Tibetan buddhist monks were sexually abusing children throughout history, as well as keeping slaves of both adults and children, until China came in and forcefully civilized their society

Did you hear this version of history from the Chinese government? Just wondering.

The abuse part sounds highly possible, but when you said the government needed to “civilize” Tibetan monks…that sounds like propaganda.

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Anonymous wrote:Tibetan buddhist monks were sexually abusing children throughout history, as well as keeping slaves of both adults and children, until China came in and forcefully civilized their society

Did you hear this version of history from the Chinese government? Just wondering.

The abuse part sounds highly possible, but when you said the government needed to “civilize” Tibetan monks…that sounds like propaganda.

Are you suggesting that slavery was not legal in Tibet (it was outlawed in 1959), that brutal punishments including mutiliation were not practiced (two CIA officers observed them cutting appendages off in person), and that tibet did not lack running water, sufficient food, and were not a theocracy? If you're not arguing that, please tell me which part of what I just wrote reflects a "civilized" country. Finally, are you suggesting that me pointing out these facts makes me a chinese propagandist? I could just as easily argue you are hippy dippy American moron. Do you have one of those "free tibet" license plates with bright colors? Might as well have a license plate saying "Support Religious Dictators"

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Anonymous wrote:That poor boy. Everyone is laughing in the video. No one helps him.

I didn't see people laughing. I saw people looking uncomfortable. The guy on the left side of the screen looks really concerned.

Listen to the video. You hear the DL say suck my tongue and you hear laughing.

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I found it very troubling. Made me think that DL was likely abused as a child and that he also has probably been abusing for years. The way he coerced the kid and the kid's vulnerability was what bothered me most.

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Anonymous wrote:He took a million dollar payment from the Nexium cult and gave it cover and cache. Not the first red flag. Nexium is the cult that sexually abused, starved and BRANDED women.

This was the very first thing I thought of. DL is taking a page from the Keith Reinere playbook.

Wow I had never heard about this - and I have a sibling who was a Tibetan Buddhist for a while and our family met the DL many years ago. This sibling is no longer a TB but a hyper spiritual evangelical with strong ethics.

This is really sad that any religious leader would misuse their position of trust in such a way.

I had assumed that this behavior was due to dementia but PPs are right to question that if there is a history of corruption and cover ups.

One aspect that may contribute to this is that DLs are designated at very young ages and kept separate in all male schools. This is undoubtedly very unhealthy to be granted god like status at young ages without adequate checks and balances on moral choices as they mature.

https://www.biography.com/religious-figures/dalai-lama-throne

How the Dalai Lama Took the Throne at Age 4
The 14th spiritual leader of Tibet was recognized as the reincarnation of the 13th lama when he was just a child.
By Lesley KennedyPUBLISHED: MAY 13, 2020

Lhamo Thondup was just a 2-year-old boy, one of seven children living on a farm in a small Tibetan village, when a search party declared him the 14th Dalai Lama.
Before the discovery, he was considered an ordinary boy who spent time collecting eggs in the family’s chicken coop with his mother, according to the Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
“Another favorite occupation of mine as an infant was to pack things in a bag as if I was about to go on a long journey,” he says, according to the office. “I'm going to Lhasa, I'm going to Lhasa, I would say. This, coupled with my insistence that I be allowed always to sit at the head of the table, was later said to be an indication that I must have known that I was destined for greater things.”
…

Alexander Gardner, director and chief editor of The Treasury of Lives, a resource for the lived history of Tibet and its surrounding regions, says it is entirely normal for a child as young as 2 to be identified as a reincarnated lama.
“Particularly in the case of powerful incarnations such as the Dalai Lamas or Karmapas, the search would begin almost immediately,” he says, noting a suitable amount of time would need to pass following the death of the last lama. “The consciousness of the dead lama would have to enter the womb of the mother of the next incarnation and be born, and then they would need the child to be old enough to show signs and be subjected to tests. So 2 is reasonable; a year transition, and a child of about a year old to test.”
A search party is tasked with following a set of signs pointing them to the reincarnated lama
Armed with a series of signs, a search party, commissioned by the Tibetan government and led by high lamas and dignitaries, was dispatched to locate the new incarnation of the previous 13 dalai lamas — the first of which was born in 1391.
…

The 14th Dalai Lama has sat on the throne for more than eight decades
Recognized as the new Dalai Lama, the boy officially took the throne as the spiritual leader of Tibet at age 4 on February 22, 1940.
“In terms of a 4-year-old taking the throne, the dalai lamas had been on the Tibetan throne for over 250 years by then, so the country was used to it,” Gardner says. “Tibet didn’t make a distinction between religious and political power. The Dalai Lama was a god in human form (Chenrezig, the bodhisattva of compassion), and he was the head of state. He could teach the path to liberation and he could negotiate international treaties. Of course, there was a cabinet and an assembly and advisors of all sorts, but these also were all monks, so the religious and political power was all unified.”
But given that the Tibetan government operated with reincarnated successors, waiting until adulthood was not an option, Gardner adds.
“They would place the child on the throne, but the regent would continue to rule the country until the Dalai Lama came of age,” he says. “Other Tibetan incarnations are enthroned in a similar way, becoming the head of a monastery while just a few years old, with abbots and other administrators actually running the place.”

The cruelty is horrifying, as is the vulnerability of the child.

Nice try, but “His Holiness” asked an innocent child to suck his tongue in public. That kid is damaged for life. Nobody did a damn thing to intervene, imagine what goes on in private!

I wasn’t defending the DL. I think the video is horrifying and I actually agree with a PP that if this had been a video of Joel Osteen the coverage would be different.

But that does not mean what happened to the DL as a vulnerable child wasn’t also horrific.