What Schools are Worth Paying For Over UVA In-State Tuition?

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Anonymous wrote:Ivies or geographically preferable/desirable schools like Georgetown or Northeastern

In fact, my kid chose Northeastern over UVA.

Received some scholarship/aid, and the cost was just little bit higher than UVA In-state

So you chose a fake USNWR gimmick school over one of our nation's most storied universities? I don't get it.

Northeastern beats UVA on most of the major metrics except for the business program.

On top of that it's in one of the best location compared to the middle of nowhere

Like what?

Like outcome, retention rate, student quality(based on test scores), etc.

Northeastern over UVa. on these "metrics"? You gotta be kidding

UVA is just a nice state flagship.
If cost is same, definitely go with Northeastern unless you are dedicated to business although you get 50% shot getting into McIntire

The northeastern boosterism on here is out of control. That’s what happens when a school full of rejects from other top schools manufactures a low acceptance rate.

Psst: you just described UVA too.
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Anonymous wrote:As a UMC family we can fortunately afford to send our son to whatever college he likes the most, but from a practical standpoint if he was to get an offer from UVA what schools might be worth to pay for over the in-state discount?

Based off of US News' Peer Assessment Scores (2022 Edition):

Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Chicago, Penn, Duke, Northwestern, Brown, Cornell, Notre Dame, Dartmouth, Georgetown, Columbia, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, MIT, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Harvey Mudd, & Bowdoin.

Virginia has the same "peer assessment score" (4.3) in US News as Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon, Claremont McKenna, Carleton College, Middlebury College, & Davidson College.

Lol what is the value of a “peer assessment” score?

Somewhat like a prestige ranking. Prestige is very important to management consulting firms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a UMC family we can fortunately afford to send our son to whatever college he likes the most, but from a practical standpoint if he was to get an offer from UVA what schools might be worth to pay for over the in-state discount?

Every school is worth it if it is the right fit. Sometimes money means you do not get to the place you should go. If money matters not then fit is your only concern. You do fit and forget the money. Now if fit is close for state school then there is your answer. But I would full pay anywhere over in-state if the fit was better.

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Anonymous wrote:As a UMC family we can fortunately afford to send our son to whatever college he likes the most, but from a practical standpoint if he was to get an offer from UVA what schools might be worth to pay for over the in-state discount?

Based off of US News' Peer Assessment Scores (2022 Edition):

Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Chicago, Penn, Duke, Northwestern, Brown, Cornell, Notre Dame, Dartmouth, Georgetown, Columbia, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, MIT, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Harvey Mudd, & Bowdoin.

Virginia has the same "peer assessment score" (4.3) in US News as Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon, Claremont McKenna, Carleton College, Middlebury College, & Davidson College.

I understand what you're trying to say, but you're missing the mark. First, you can only compare the peer assessment scores of universities versus universities and colleges versus colleges. That's how the US News survey works.

Second, just because the peer assessment score of a private college is higher than UVA doesn't mean it's worth paying double the price or more to attend.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a UMC family we can fortunately afford to send our son to whatever college he likes the most, but from a practical standpoint if he was to get an offer from UVA what schools might be worth to pay for over the in-state discount?

Based off of US News' Peer Assessment Scores (2022 Edition):

Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Chicago, Penn, Duke, Northwestern, Brown, Cornell, Notre Dame, Dartmouth, Georgetown, Columbia, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, MIT, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Harvey Mudd, & Bowdoin.

Virginia has the same "peer assessment score" (4.3) in US News as Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon, Claremont McKenna, Carleton College, Middlebury College, & Davidson College.

Lol what is the value of a “peer assessment” score?

Somewhat like a prestige ranking. Prestige is very important to management consulting firms.

UVA does extremely well for management consulting recruiting. According to https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/consulting-target-schools, the undergrad schools that send the most kids to top consulting firms are:

1. Harvard (no surprise)
2. UPenn (mostly Wharton)
3. UMich (go Blue!)
4. Yale
5. Stanford
6. Duke
7. Princeton
8. MIT
9. Berkeley
10. Northwestern
11. Columbia
12. UT Austin
13. UVA
14. Dartmouth
15. Notre Dame
16. Vanderbilt
17. UChicago
18. Brown
19. Georgetown
20. Georgia Tech (honestly a bit surprised by this)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ivies or geographically preferable/desirable schools like Georgetown or Northeastern

I think you meant Northwestern?

you can include Northwestern too

DP. Lmao Northeastern is not on that level. Northwestern and Georgetown make sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a UMC family we can fortunately afford to send our son to whatever college he likes the most, but from a practical standpoint if he was to get an offer from UVA what schools might be worth to pay for over the in-state discount?

Based off of US News' Peer Assessment Scores (2022 Edition):

Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Chicago, Penn, Duke, Northwestern, Brown, Cornell, Notre Dame, Dartmouth, Georgetown, Columbia, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, MIT, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Harvey Mudd, & Bowdoin.

Virginia has the same "peer assessment score" (4.3) in US News as Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon, Claremont McKenna, Carleton College, Middlebury College, & Davidson College.

Lol what is the value of a “peer assessment” score?

Somewhat like a prestige ranking. Prestige is very important to management consulting firms.

UVA does extremely well for management consulting recruiting. According to https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/consulting-target-schools, the undergrad schools that send the most kids to top consulting firms are:

1. Harvard (no surprise)
2. UPenn (mostly Wharton)
3. UMich (go Blue!)
4. Yale
5. Stanford
6. Duke
7. Princeton
8. MIT
9. Berkeley
10. Northwestern
11. Columbia
12. UT Austin
13. UVA
14. Dartmouth
15. Notre Dame
16. Vanderbilt
17. UChicago
18. Brown
19. Georgetown
20. Georgia Tech (honestly a bit surprised by this)

Go Blue! Ross is easily one of the best undergrad business schools

[Anonymous]

(I didn't attend UVA)

I don't think there are any colleges worth paying for over UVA in-state. Go ivy league for your masters/JD instead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a UMC family we can fortunately afford to send our son to whatever college he likes the most, but from a practical standpoint if he was to get an offer from UVA what schools might be worth to pay for over the in-state discount?

Based off of US News' Peer Assessment Scores (2022 Edition):

Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Chicago, Penn, Duke, Northwestern, Brown, Cornell, Notre Dame, Dartmouth, Georgetown, Columbia, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, MIT, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Harvey Mudd, & Bowdoin.

Virginia has the same "peer assessment score" (4.3) in US News as Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon, Claremont McKenna, Carleton College, Middlebury College, & Davidson College.

I understand what you're trying to say, but you're missing the mark. First, you can only compare the peer assessment scores of universities versus universities and colleges versus colleges. That's how the US News survey works.

Second, just because the peer assessment score of a private college is higher than UVA doesn't mean it's worth paying double the price or more to attend.

Where are Berkeley and Michigan? Both have PA scores above 4.3

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a UMC family we can fortunately afford to send our son to whatever college he likes the most, but from a practical standpoint if he was to get an offer from UVA what schools might be worth to pay for over the in-state discount?

Based off of US News' Peer Assessment Scores (2022 Edition):

Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Chicago, Penn, Duke, Northwestern, Brown, Cornell, Notre Dame, Dartmouth, Georgetown, Columbia, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, MIT, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Harvey Mudd, & Bowdoin.

Virginia has the same "peer assessment score" (4.3) in US News as Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon, Claremont McKenna, Carleton College, Middlebury College, & Davidson College.

I understand what you're trying to say, but you're missing the mark. First, you can only compare the peer assessment scores of universities versus universities and colleges versus colleges. That's how the US News survey works.

Second, just because the peer assessment score of a private college is higher than UVA doesn't mean it's worth paying double the price or more to attend.

Where are Berkeley and Michigan? Both have PA scores above 4.3

Berkeley has a PA score of 4.7, second only to HYPSM, tied with Columbia and Hopkins, above every other school

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a UMC family we can fortunately afford to send our son to whatever college he likes the most, but from a practical standpoint if he was to get an offer from UVA what schools might be worth to pay for over the in-state discount?

Based off of US News' Peer Assessment Scores (2022 Edition):

Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Chicago, Penn, Duke, Northwestern, Brown, Cornell, Notre Dame, Dartmouth, Georgetown, Columbia, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, MIT, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Harvey Mudd, & Bowdoin.

Virginia has the same "peer assessment score" (4.3) in US News as Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon, Claremont McKenna, Carleton College, Middlebury College, & Davidson College.

Lol what is the value of a “peer assessment” score?

Somewhat like a prestige ranking. Prestige is very important to management consulting firms.

UVA does extremely well for management consulting recruiting. According to https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/consulting-target-schools, the undergrad schools that send the most kids to top consulting firms are:

1. Harvard (no surprise)
2. UPenn (mostly Wharton)
3. UMich (go Blue!)
4. Yale
5. Stanford
6. Duke
7. Princeton
8. MIT
9. Berkeley
10. Northwestern
11. Columbia
12. UT Austin
13. UVA
14. Dartmouth
15. Notre Dame
16. Vanderbilt
17. UChicago
18. Brown
19. Georgetown
20. Georgia Tech (honestly a bit surprised by this)

Not surprised at all about Georgia Tech. https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1085366.page

Schools that don't go to the "other schools" pile for McKinsey:

Ivy League
Top flagships: Berkeley, Michigan, UVA, UNC, UT-Austin, Georgia Tech
Limited number of other privates: MIT, Stanford, U Chicago, Duke, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Emory, Georgetown - that's it, that's all, no more.

If you don't want your DC going to school in flyover country, you can eliminate some of these save for MIT, Stanford, Duke, Georgetown, and Emory. Emory loses cross-admit battles with both UVA and GT by 20% and 22% margins, respectively, according to Parchment. Georgetown's peer reputation score is lower than UVA's, albeit by only 0.1 (UVA tied with Vanderbilt, CMU, GT; Georgetown tied with WashU, Emory, Notre Dame, UNC), and its dorms have a serious black mold problem, so it's probably not worth the 40k premium (soon to be 50k due to tuition hikes). So if we eliminate those two schools, we're back to exactly where we started: Ivies, MIT, Stanford, and Duke. Comes out the same way every time if you're logical about things.

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Wanted to add that if your DC is CS, might be worth it to pay for CMU / UC Berkeley.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ivies or geographically preferable/desirable schools like Georgetown or Northeastern

In fact, my kid chose Northeastern over UVA.

Received some scholarship/aid, and the cost was just little bit higher than UVA In-state

So you chose a fake USNWR gimmick school over one of our nation's most storied universities? I don't get it.

Northeastern beats UVA on most of the major metrics except for the business program.

On top of that it's in one of the best location compared to the middle of nowhere

Like what?

Like outcome, retention rate, student quality(based on test scores), etc.

Northeastern over UVa. on these "metrics"? You gotta be kidding

UVA is just a nice state flagship.
If cost is same, definitely go with Northeastern unless you are dedicated to business although you get 50% shot getting into McIntire

The northeastern boosterism on here is out of control. That’s what happens when a school full of rejects from other top schools manufactures a low acceptance rate.

I just mentally correct to Northwestern so that the drivel makes some sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a UMC family we can fortunately afford to send our son to whatever college he likes the most, but from a practical standpoint if he was to get an offer from UVA what schools might be worth to pay for over the in-state discount?

Based off of US News' Peer Assessment Scores (2022 Edition):

Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Chicago, Penn, Duke, Northwestern, Brown, Cornell, Notre Dame, Dartmouth, Georgetown, Columbia, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, MIT, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Harvey Mudd, & Bowdoin.

Virginia has the same "peer assessment score" (4.3) in US News as Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon, Claremont McKenna, Carleton College, Middlebury College, & Davidson College.

Lol what is the value of a “peer assessment” score?

People who pick colleges based on US News are just as stupid as those who fill out their March Madness bracket based on mascots.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ivies or geographically preferable/desirable schools like Georgetown or Northeastern

I think you meant Northwestern?

you can include Northwestern too

DP. Lmao Northeastern is not on that level. Northwestern and Georgetown make sense.

Makes sense for same or little more cost. Not all for most of the average people if full pay vs UVA Instate.

It also make sense for Northeastern for a lot of people if cost is same or little more. Considered equal opitions.