Grandparents told DS to "just stop" regarding calls and texts to help rebook flights

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Anonymous wrote:If my grandson texted me about travel plans, especially given the chaos you describe, I would assume his parents put him up to it to make me feel guilty. That’s what happened, isn’t it OP? You told your son to text/FaceTime your parents.
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This. Regardless, the 8 yo is way out of line. The communication should have been between the adults only.


WTF? He’s 8. And wants to help his family.



Then his mom should have taken the suggestion the first time from grandpa that the kid "stop" but he didn't and then called grandma again to talk about it. He's not being helpful, and was put in his place by an adult since his mom wasn't shutting it down. Did she even tell him that grandpa asked that he stop the first time before he got involved yet again?


No. Grandpa pulls up his big boy underpants and doesn’t throw a tantrum. The kid was fine - he was trying to help FFS.

Grandpa and some PPs need lessons on how not to be a self-absorbed prick.

Anonymous
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[Long ridiculous story snipped] to ask DS, age 8, to "just stop"


Then he should have stopped. Adult plans are none of his business. If I were your parent I would become much too busy to visit you for a while since you don't understand boundaries.
Anonymous
From the title, I expected the son to be in his 20s, at least.

The 8 year old should just stop when asked to do so.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If my grandson texted me about travel plans, especially given the chaos you describe, I would assume his parents put him up to it to make me feel guilty. That’s what happened, isn’t it OP? You told your son to text/FaceTime your parents.
m

This. Regardless, the 8 yo is way out of line. The communication should have been between the adults only.


WTF? He’s 8. And wants to help his family.



Then his mom should have taken the suggestion the first time from grandpa that the kid "stop" but he didn't and then called grandma again to talk about it. He's not being helpful, and was put in his place by an adult since his mom wasn't shutting it down. Did she even tell him that grandpa asked that he stop the first time before he got involved yet again?


No. Grandpa pulls up his big boy underpants and doesn’t throw a tantrum. The kid was fine - he was trying to help FFS.

Grandpa and some PPs need lessons on how not to be a self-absorbed prick.


How is telling someone to stop when you want that person to stop doing something a tantrum? DCUM is wild.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:From the title, I expected the son to be in his 20s, at least.

The 8 year old should just stop when asked to do so.


It's not like the grandparents yelled at the kid or used bad language or anything! They are allowed to tell him to "just stop" - get over it and stop walking on eggshells with your own kid. It's probably good to have someone set boundaries with him.
Anonymous
I read your post and have no idea what you are trying to say. Awful writing. Next time use an editor.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If my grandson texted me about travel plans, especially given the chaos you describe, I would assume his parents put him up to it to make me feel guilty. That’s what happened, isn’t it OP? You told your son to text/FaceTime your parents.
m

This. Regardless, the 8 yo is way out of line. The communication should have been between the adults only.


WTF? He’s 8. And wants to help his family.



Then his mom should have taken the suggestion the first time from grandpa that the kid "stop" but he didn't and then called grandma again to talk about it. He's not being helpful, and was put in his place by an adult since his mom wasn't shutting it down. Did she even tell him that grandpa asked that he stop the first time before he got involved yet again?


No. Grandpa pulls up his big boy underpants and doesn’t throw a tantrum. The kid was fine - he was trying to help FFS.

Grandpa and some PPs need lessons on how not to be a self-absorbed prick.



Lol, no. Trying to manipulate and guilt trip people is wrong. OP needs
to teach her child better. Grandpa shut it down. As he should.
Anonymous
Can't follow your confusing story. I'm out.
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Anonymous wrote:Backstory: I have younger parents and my dad still works as a trial lawyer. My parents are scheduled to come to DC tomorrow to visit for the holidays for a week because my dad had a trial scheduled today (and they were upset we did not visit them in my hometown for Christmas and went on a trip with our immediate family). Due to Southwest canceling their flights and a text they sent me and my adult siblings, my DH found flights that were very affordable on a different airline to rebook and offered to use his points to give them first class flights to DC. The catch was one hour layover in a city where my brother lives. My parents suffer from FOMO (fear of missing out) and they are exceptionally petty. They booked their tickets after Christmas because my DH and I booked a ski trip to Utah the first week of winter break. Then my brother's flight was canceled due to the weather and they freaked out, not responding to our texts or calls for three days. My sister called them out on it and they claimed they were "too busy" to respond (these are people who text and call us incessantly at work).

This morning, my 8 year old son sent my mom texts that said (from son's name) and were clearly written by an 8 year old. He said that my DH had found tickets for them and offered to use his status and points. He said that the ticket prices were increasing. He asked my mom (or dad) to call me and DH. He then FaceTimed my mom two hours later, as he had the flight schedule on his tablet and saw the price changes. My mom was texting us all morning in a group text and separate texts plus my dad was sending group texts from when his flights were canceled until he called me from my mom's phone (he has never done that) to ask DS, age 8, to "just stop" and that he was not going to fly to DC unless he could fly to DCA only (DH found flights to Dulles and BWI, which we offered to pickup parents), unless the flight was allowing checked bags (my parent's airline had suggested only carryon and my parents NEVER check bags), unless my husband had found direct flights from their city to DCA at the same time as the flight he had prior. My DS is devastated. I took him to the playground and we are headed to the movies. But really? My mom claims she could not make a decision without my dad. My dad claims he needed to focus on his trial and not worry about flights. My parents both claim they didn't want to book flights until my 38 year old brother's flight was resheduled. My brother lives somewhere where all the flights are canceled this week. He wants to come here to see his nephews and is booking a flight Friday. He is also totally fine staying at my parents' alone or going to my aunt's down the street.

My mom is now saying she is going to cancel the trip altoghether, due to the weather and unpredictability of the flights, which I get. But my 8 year old called her from his Ipad and my mom gave him a long lecture about how we "already went on our vacation" and how "she isn't going to be able to make any flights that your dad (my DH) made for us as they are too expensive or have layovers." DH and I were going to pay for the flights. My parents are very well off and can definitely swing the $400 total round trip tickets and would take the free tickets using points. DS is really hurt that my parents yelled at him and were "unkind".

I explained to DS that my parents should not have reacted to a child like that, but they have anxiety about traveling and are not savvy about prices going up and can't make quick decisions. They always think something better is going to come along and it prevents them from quick decision making. Now my mom is texting me and my sister pictures of her Christmas decorations, presents, sad memes, gifs, etc. And she's making us feel guilty for her flight being canceled (!). My sister and I called her and my dad out for making my 8 year old feel badly and she said "well he already got to go on a ski vacation. We paid for private school and worked really hard and never got to do that with you. Maybe you would have been better off just going to public school and having kids in HS so you would be more dependent on me." (this is something she frequently says.

My dad texted my sister, DH and I to "chill", his favorite word. He is big into mindfulness although he has the worst anger management issue ever, the mouth that curses incessantly and is super hyper active and anxious.


I could have told your sad tale of woe in a three sentence paragraph. Instead, one question:. What kind of idiot adult has their 8-year old son take over travel for grandparents?!


New poster. I do not see where OP or any adult had the child "take over travel" arrangements. Nowhere does OP say that she or any other adult put the kid up to doing this, instructed him to do it, told him to text the grandparents, etc. I think that is getting projected into her post by the readers.

OP--am I correct? No one, not you or DH or any other adult, egged on or told your child to make his own separate contact about travel plans?

If not: I'm team OP and son.

Grandpa the lawyer: The people posting to rage about the fact grandpa was doing at trial: So freaking what? He can mute anyone he likes. OP notes he's all about "wellness" anyway and his whole reaction to this was not the anger that PPs here are feeling on his behalf -- he just told everyone to "chill." (How...useful. Not.) So grandad's trial is not the big honking thing re: travel that some PPs want it to be. .Not to grandpa, at least, though some lawyer PPs here are sure projecting their own trial stress onto "chill" grandpa.

Grandma is the issue here. Again, PPs are defending her. But OP clearly says her mom is, to summarize in my own term, a pill. Here's why: The issue is NOT he terrible weather, or the weather-related flight cancellations etc., people. The issue isn't even the child contacting grandma.

READ OP's post with care: Mom is pouting and pi$$y about the fact OP's family took a trip of their own (without these grandparents) at the start of this winter break.

That is the root of grandma's and grandpa's insistence that they'll ONLY travel to one of the area's three airports, they MUST have checked baggage despite what airlines are saying. That's what's behind the ugly treatment of OP's DH who is the one who did all the legwork to find new tickets (and who is getting zero credit for that effort as far as I can see).

Grandma even turned this whole thing into All About Her and did the ultimate bad faith thing: She dredged up the past and dredged up money issues: OP quotes her as saying, "We paid for private school and worked really hard and never got to do that with you. Maybe you would have been better off just going to public school and having kids in HS so you would be more dependent on me."

DCUM normally would have a screaming fit at that statement as pure toxic (grand)parenting, but for some bizarre reason is letting it slide and focusing instead on the kid's role here, not on grandma's crystal clear control and entitlement issues. Sure, the boy should not have texted or contacted an adult like he did; OP, you need to talk to him about how issues like plane tickets and travel plans were not something to get involved in, though you know he meant it as a way of indicating he wants the grandparents to come visit. But he should not do this again.

Then, OP, in your shoes, I'd tell mom and dad, sorry but we've expended all the time and energy we can on this trip and since the airports and travel arrangements don't suit you, we won't see you this holiday, but maybe we can all visit in the spring when there is better weather for flying and less stress around the holidays.

In short, I wouldn't even WANT to see them after all this drama. Your son did ramp up the drama but unless he was instructed or encouraged to contact them by an adult -- he did not do so out of any intent to add to the problems and I would give him a talk about not texting anyone on your devices or on his own, and let it go. OP, if you're not already, get some counseling for you as the adult daughter, to detach more from your parents, especially your mom who guilts you and tosses your upbringing into your face. Learn not to let their FOMO and jealousy that you take trips with your own family affect you. I really would reduce the amount of time spent with them if your mom says things like you recount.

And OP please ignore all the "you are terrible parents" crap on this thread; those are PPs focused only on your kid's mistake in contacting them and trying to "help." The real issue is your picky, huffy, self-centered, demanding, jealous, inflexible parents. I'd take off now for another family vacation somewhere, as soon as I told mom and dad, no trip, maybe see you in the spring or summer.


JC. You and OP need to connect offline. Both are horrific writers in desperate need of an editor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If my grandson texted me about travel plans, especially given the chaos you describe, I would assume his parents put him up to it to make me feel guilty. That’s what happened, isn’t it OP? You told your son to text/FaceTime your parents.
m

This. Regardless, the 8 yo is way out of line. The communication should have been between the adults only.


WTF? He’s 8. And wants to help his family.



What 8 year old tracks flight prices? How did he even know the airline or airport codes? It’s all so made up.
Anonymous
I had a stroke trying to read this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:...Due to Southwest canceling their flights and a text they sent me and my adult siblings, my DH found flights that were very affordable on a different airline to rebook and offered to use his points to give them first class flights to DC. The catch was one hour layover in a city where my brother lives...

This morning, my 8 year old son sent my mom texts that said (from son's name) and were clearly written by an 8 year old. He said that my DH had found tickets for them and offered to use his status and points. He said that the ticket prices were increasing. He asked my mom (or dad) to call me and DH. He then FaceTimed my mom two hours later, as he had the flight schedule on his tablet and saw the price changes. My mom was texting us all morning in a group text and separate texts plus my dad was sending group texts from when his flights were canceled until he called me from my mom's phone (he has never done that) to ask DS, age 8, to "just stop" and that he was not going to fly to DC unless he could fly to DCA only (DH found flights to Dulles and BWI, which we offered to pickup parents), unless the flight was allowing checked bags (my parent's airline had suggested only carryon and my parents NEVER check bags), unless my husband had found direct flights from their city to DCA at the same time as the flight he had prior. My DS is devastated...

My mom is now saying she is going to cancel the trip altoghether, due to the weather and unpredictability of the flights,...

I explained to DS that my parents should not have reacted to a child like that... mom is texting me and my sister pictures of her Christmas decorations, presents, sad memes, gifs, etc....

My dad texted my sister, DH and I to "chill", his favorite word...


Parents had direct non-stop round trip flights to DCA on Southwest. SW based on routes and hubs had more cancellations than other airlines. No one knows where OP lives but that location can result in a 3 hour round trip door to door for BWI or IAD. Booking anythng with stops can have more travel complications than non-stops especially if there's a scheduled plane change or substitution is needed at the stop.

Using points, upping to first class, adding a stop, inconvenient airport is not a solution. This is a holiday visit from a home location not a return home from college or a temporary location.

On the checked bag stuff- I think there is a backload of luggage that needs to flown. https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/a-teach...-AA15ISzy?li=BBnbklE

So people boarding flights might have increased reluctance to check bags that are clearly sketch on the carryon size. Or they have several carryons that added together cause lack of space in overheads ...I've boarded and found peoples junk under my seat.

Anonymous
You put your kid in an awful position. Way to make a kid feel rejected. Grandparents were fine here. Parents were selfish and used kid as a pawn.
Anonymous
Trying to re-book travel is stressful during normal times, let alone this week. I think you offer to help find flights *once* then back off and let them handle it. Having an 8yo involved is too much. Add in the stress of a trial and I can totally understand why your dad was snappish.

Why did you tell your 8yo what his grandparents said? Just say they’re very busy right now and we need to leave them be to sort things out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trying to re-book travel is stressful during normal times, let alone this week. I think you offer to help find flights *once* then back off and let them handle it. Having an 8yo involved is too much. Add in the stress of a trial and I can totally understand why your dad was snappish.

Why did you tell your 8yo what his grandparents said? Just say they’re very busy right now and we need to leave them be to sort things out.


PP here again. What’s the deal with your mom? She thinks everyone who goes to public school has kids during their teen years? Odd.
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