Mythical Western HS

[Anonymous]

I’d go for sitting FCPS into smaller districts. I am not a fan of Rezoning and I’m just in a middle of the road pyramid. People buy their houses to go to a certain school. That’s a fact. Those of us who did will fight like heck getting rezoned elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

FCPS used to redistrict regularly and fairly, and it also paid attention to the adequacy and condition of its facilities.

It does none of those things now. People know it's a political game and they don't want to come out on the losing side. The cycle repeats itself and FCPS continues to destroy its reputation for excellence and administrative competence. The current School Board members not only accept, but contribute to, the dumpster fire. Building Centreville out to 3000 kids isn't a timely or appropriate response to growth in that part of the county, but an implicit acknowledgement that the county is too fragmented, incompetent, and strife-ridden to get its shit together to build a new school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d go for sitting FCPS into smaller districts. I am not a fan of Rezoning and I’m just in a middle of the road pyramid. People buy their houses to go to a certain school. That’s a fact. Those of us who did will fight like heck getting rezoned elsewhere.

And let me guess, the poor's will all be grouped together outside of your district?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone on here who desperately wants this high school built ever tried to figure out where they could actually build it? That is the real problem. You can blame the current school board all you want, you can blame politics, Langley parents, whatever you want. But it all comes down to them not being able to find a decent site that that could actually afford.

As I mentionned upthread, Carson is on 32 acrea and Hutchison 38. Carson could be expanded to a high school and a middle school could be built at Hutchison. Each site is oversized for a middle and elementary school. Frankly it's silly to ignore the residential addresses bussed to Langley that have Herndon addresses but are just N, NW of the town boundaries.

It is just poor resource allocation of our tax dollars to never consider boundary changes. But then this is FCPS which no longer does administrative or really any substantive/productive boundary changes. Code of VA has language on school divisions and attendance areas re improve operational efficiency of the division.

Note that Virginia DOE guidelines state that the minimium lot size for a high school should be 20 acres plus 1 additional acre per 100 students. So a 2000 student HS would need 40 acres. While not binding, I doubt FCPS would try to build anything not in compliance with the guidelines.

The Carson site is unsuitable under the guidelines -- it would be limited to 1200 students, which is far below the size that FCPS is looking for.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone on here who desperately wants this high school built ever tried to figure out where they could actually build it? That is the real problem. You can blame the current school board all you want, you can blame politics, Langley parents, whatever you want. But it all comes down to them not being able to find a decent site that that could actually afford.

As I mentionned upthread, Carson is on 32 acrea and Hutchison 38. Carson could be expanded to a high school and a middle school could be built at Hutchison. Each site is oversized for a middle and elementary school. Frankly it's silly to ignore the residential addresses bussed to Langley that have Herndon addresses but are just N, NW of the town boundaries.

It is just poor resource allocation of our tax dollars to never consider boundary changes. But then this is FCPS which no longer does administrative or really any substantive/productive boundary changes. Code of VA has language on school divisions and attendance areas re improve operational efficiency of the division.

Note that Virginia DOE guidelines state that the minimium lot size for a high school should be 20 acres plus 1 additional acre per 100 students. So a 2000 student HS would need 40 acres. While not binding, I doubt FCPS would try to build anything not in compliance with the guidelines.

The Carson site is unsuitable under the guidelines -- it would be limited to 1200 students, which is far below the size that FCPS is looking for.

Oh, please. What about the guidelines for elementary schools? How exactly did FCPS follow them when they built Bailey's Upper ES (3.8 acres) a while back?

FCPS will continue to cram more kids into existing sites if that's what the politically connected want to ensure their own kids stay at Langley.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone on here who desperately wants this high school built ever tried to figure out where they could actually build it? That is the real problem. You can blame the current school board all you want, you can blame politics, Langley parents, whatever you want. But it all comes down to them not being able to find a decent site that that could actually afford.

As I mentionned upthread, Carson is on 32 acrea and Hutchison 38. Carson could be expanded to a high school and a middle school could be built at Hutchison. Each site is oversized for a middle and elementary school. Frankly it's silly to ignore the residential addresses bussed to Langley that have Herndon addresses but are just N, NW of the town boundaries.

It is just poor resource allocation of our tax dollars to never consider boundary changes. But then this is FCPS which no longer does administrative or really any substantive/productive boundary changes. Code of VA has language on school divisions and attendance areas re improve operational efficiency of the division.

Note that Virginia DOE guidelines state that the minimium lot size for a high school should be 20 acres plus 1 additional acre per 100 students. So a 2000 student HS would need 40 acres. While not binding, I doubt FCPS would try to build anything not in compliance with the guidelines.

The Carson site is unsuitable under the guidelines -- it would be limited to 1200 students, which is far below the size that FCPS is looking for.

Oh, please. What about the guidelines for elementary schools? How exactly did FCPS follow them when they built Bailey's Upper ES (3.8 acres) a while back?

FCPS will continue to cram more kids into existing sites if that's what the politically connected want to ensure their own kids stay at Langley.

Yes and Hutchison site is big enough for a high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d go for sitting FCPS into smaller districts. I am not a fan of Rezoning and I’m just in a middle of the road pyramid. People buy their houses to go to a certain school. That’s a fact. Those of us who did will fight like heck getting rezoned elsewhere.

You'd "go for it"? Its a Virginia law that would have to be voted on by both houses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d go for sitting FCPS into smaller districts. I am not a fan of Rezoning and I’m just in a middle of the road pyramid. People buy their houses to go to a certain school. That’s a fact. Those of us who did will fight like heck getting rezoned elsewhere.

You'd "go for it"? Its a Virginia law that would have to be voted on by both houses.

The middle ground would be retaining a single legal district but allowing areas within the district to exercise more autonomy with respect to their fair shares of the operating and capital budgets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone on here who desperately wants this high school built ever tried to figure out where they could actually build it? That is the real problem. You can blame the current school board all you want, you can blame politics, Langley parents, whatever you want. But it all comes down to them not being able to find a decent site that that could actually afford.

As I mentionned upthread, Carson is on 32 acrea and Hutchison 38. Carson could be expanded to a high school and a middle school could be built at Hutchison. Each site is oversized for a middle and elementary school. Frankly it's silly to ignore the residential addresses bussed to Langley that have Herndon addresses but are just N, NW of the town boundaries.

It is just poor resource allocation of our tax dollars to never consider boundary changes. But then this is FCPS which no longer does administrative or really any substantive/productive boundary changes. Code of VA has language on school divisions and attendance areas re improve operational efficiency of the division.

Note that Virginia DOE guidelines state that the minimium lot size for a high school should be 20 acres plus 1 additional acre per 100 students. So a 2000 student HS would need 40 acres. While not binding, I doubt FCPS would try to build anything not in compliance with the guidelines.

The Carson site is unsuitable under the guidelines -- it would be limited to 1200 students, which is far below the size that FCPS is looking for.

Oh, please. What about the guidelines for elementary schools? How exactly did FCPS follow them when they built Bailey's Upper ES (3.8 acres) a while back?

FCPS will continue to cram more kids into existing sites if that's what the politically connected want to ensure their own kids stay at Langley.

Yes and Hutchison site is big enough for a high school.

Hutchison is 2.5 miles from Herndon High School as the crow flies. FCPS isn't building a new HS so close to an existing one in the western part of the county. (We can argue about this all we want, but it's not happening.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone on here who desperately wants this high school built ever tried to figure out where they could actually build it? That is the real problem. You can blame the current school board all you want, you can blame politics, Langley parents, whatever you want. But it all comes down to them not being able to find a decent site that that could actually afford.

As I mentionned upthread, Carson is on 32 acrea and Hutchison 38. Carson could be expanded to a high school and a middle school could be built at Hutchison. Each site is oversized for a middle and elementary school. Frankly it's silly to ignore the residential addresses bussed to Langley that have Herndon addresses but are just N, NW of the town boundaries.

It is just poor resource allocation of our tax dollars to never consider boundary changes. But then this is FCPS which no longer does administrative or really any substantive/productive boundary changes. Code of VA has language on school divisions and attendance areas re improve operational efficiency of the division.

Note that Virginia DOE guidelines state that the minimium lot size for a high school should be 20 acres plus 1 additional acre per 100 students. So a 2000 student HS would need 40 acres. While not binding, I doubt FCPS would try to build anything not in compliance with the guidelines.

The Carson site is unsuitable under the guidelines -- it would be limited to 1200 students, which is far below the size that FCPS is looking for.

Oh, please. What about the guidelines for elementary schools? How exactly did FCPS follow them when they built Bailey's Upper ES (3.8 acres) a while back?

FCPS will continue to cram more kids into existing sites if that's what the politically connected want to ensure their own kids stay at Langley.

Yes and Hutchison site is big enough for a high school.

Hutchison is 2.5 miles from Herndon High School as the crow flies. FCPS isn't building a new HS so close to an existing one in the western part of the county. (We can argue about this all we want, but it's not happening.)

They’ll have to build where they can find a site. The issue isn’t choosing between lots of great sites. The issue is no undeveloped land to used. Plus, Oakton is 1.5 miles from Madison.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone on here who desperately wants this high school built ever tried to figure out where they could actually build it? That is the real problem. You can blame the current school board all you want, you can blame politics, Langley parents, whatever you want. But it all comes down to them not being able to find a decent site that that could actually afford.

As I mentionned upthread, Carson is on 32 acrea and Hutchison 38. Carson could be expanded to a high school and a middle school could be built at Hutchison. Each site is oversized for a middle and elementary school. Frankly it's silly to ignore the residential addresses bussed to Langley that have Herndon addresses but are just N, NW of the town boundaries.

It is just poor resource allocation of our tax dollars to never consider boundary changes. But then this is FCPS which no longer does administrative or really any substantive/productive boundary changes. Code of VA has language on school divisions and attendance areas re improve operational efficiency of the division.

Note that Virginia DOE guidelines state that the minimium lot size for a high school should be 20 acres plus 1 additional acre per 100 students. So a 2000 student HS would need 40 acres. While not binding, I doubt FCPS would try to build anything not in compliance with the guidelines.

The Carson site is unsuitable under the guidelines -- it would be limited to 1200 students, which is far below the size that FCPS is looking for.

Oh, please. What about the guidelines for elementary schools? How exactly did FCPS follow them when they built Bailey's Upper ES (3.8 acres) a while back?

FCPS will continue to cram more kids into existing sites if that's what the politically connected want to ensure their own kids stay at Langley.

Yes and Hutchison site is big enough for a high school.

Hutchison is 2.5 miles from Herndon High School as the crow flies. FCPS isn't building a new HS so close to an existing one in the western part of the county. (We can argue about this all we want, but it's not happening.)

Sometimes FCPS builds schools where it can. Oakton HS, built in the late 60s, is 1.4 miles from Madison HS, built in the last 50s.

And other times people look for reasons to oppose, delay, and undermine, and we end up with oversized factories like FCPS has in store for Centreville.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone on here who desperately wants this high school built ever tried to figure out where they could actually build it? That is the real problem. You can blame the current school board all you want, you can blame politics, Langley parents, whatever you want. But it all comes down to them not being able to find a decent site that that could actually afford.

As I mentionned upthread, Carson is on 32 acrea and Hutchison 38. Carson could be expanded to a high school and a middle school could be built at Hutchison. Each site is oversized for a middle and elementary school. Frankly it's silly to ignore the residential addresses bussed to Langley that have Herndon addresses but are just N, NW of the town boundaries.

It is just poor resource allocation of our tax dollars to never consider boundary changes. But then this is FCPS which no longer does administrative or really any substantive/productive boundary changes. Code of VA has language on school divisions and attendance areas re improve operational efficiency of the division.

Note that Virginia DOE guidelines state that the minimium lot size for a high school should be 20 acres plus 1 additional acre per 100 students. So a 2000 student HS would need 40 acres. While not binding, I doubt FCPS would try to build anything not in compliance with the guidelines.

The Carson site is unsuitable under the guidelines -- it would be limited to 1200 students, which is far below the size that FCPS is looking for.

Oh, please. What about the guidelines for elementary schools? How exactly did FCPS follow them when they built Bailey's Upper ES (3.8 acres) a while back?

FCPS will continue to cram more kids into existing sites if that's what the politically connected want to ensure their own kids stay at Langley.

Yes and Hutchison site is big enough for a high school.

Hutchison is 2.5 miles from Herndon High School as the crow flies. FCPS isn't building a new HS so close to an existing one in the western part of the county. (We can argue about this all we want, but it's not happening.)

They’ll have to build where they can find a site. The issue isn’t choosing between lots of great sites. The issue is no undeveloped land to used. Plus, Oakton is 1.5 miles from Madison.

Other examples: Edison is only 2.1 miles from Lewis, and Langley is 2.6 miles from McLean.

But, sure, we could never build another school so close to Herndon, even if it's in an area slated for major development.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone on here who desperately wants this high school built ever tried to figure out where they could actually build it? That is the real problem. You can blame the current school board all you want, you can blame politics, Langley parents, whatever you want. But it all comes down to them not being able to find a decent site that that could actually afford.

As I mentionned upthread, Carson is on 32 acrea and Hutchison 38. Carson could be expanded to a high school and a middle school could be built at Hutchison. Each site is oversized for a middle and elementary school. Frankly it's silly to ignore the residential addresses bussed to Langley that have Herndon addresses but are just N, NW of the town boundaries.

It is just poor resource allocation of our tax dollars to never consider boundary changes. But then this is FCPS which no longer does administrative or really any substantive/productive boundary changes. Code of VA has language on school divisions and attendance areas re improve operational efficiency of the division.

Note that Virginia DOE guidelines state that the minimium lot size for a high school should be 20 acres plus 1 additional acre per 100 students. So a 2000 student HS would need 40 acres. While not binding, I doubt FCPS would try to build anything not in compliance with the guidelines.

The Carson site is unsuitable under the guidelines -- it would be limited to 1200 students, which is far below the size that FCPS is looking for.

Oh, please. What about the guidelines for elementary schools? How exactly did FCPS follow them when they built Bailey's Upper ES (3.8 acres) a while back?

FCPS will continue to cram more kids into existing sites if that's what the politically connected want to ensure their own kids stay at Langley.

Yes and Hutchison site is big enough for a high school.

Hutchison is 2.5 miles from Herndon High School as the crow flies. FCPS isn't building a new HS so close to an existing one in the western part of the county. (We can argue about this all we want, but it's not happening.)

I know FCPS is not going to build a high school on the Hutchison site although it was their plan until last year. The distance/proximity is not the reason. We all know the real reason.

[Anonymous]

FCPS owns a ton of parkland in the area. Take some space from Ellanor Lawrence park for a high school. Or that area with the farm.

[Anonymous]

This is your regular reminder that the Carson site was great. And the BOS sold it to the Saudis without community input.

Clearly, this bugged me. Still does, and my kids are in Hs, so it is what it is for them. Take care of Fairfax CO’s kids before kow towing to a foreign government.