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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

Such kind words! It's great we can have such a respectful discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:Op, what is your point beyond to start drama? Covid is over for you but some of us don’t have your privilege to declare it over and stop being careful.

Such a helpful, constructive comment

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Anonymous wrote:Op, what is your point beyond to start drama? Covid is over for you but some of us don’t have your privilege to declare it over and stop being careful.

That's the thing, you think COVID is the only valid priority for people to have, and it's not.

No, I don’t and you are just attention seeking. There is zero excuse not to take basic precautions so we don’t keep spreading Covid, cold and flu around. My health is my priority and if you give me Covid, cold or flu I am sick for weeks so I prefer you keep your germs to yourself.

Glad to hear you think so highly of me

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I'm at the live and let live phase of this. I don't understand people playing with their long term health, but I also realize people draw different conclusions and public health messaging has not exactly been stellar. I'm not posting any warnings to people, and only ever discuss it on this health board from time to time. I know people judge my family for masking, but oh well, it's not like I'm going to change because of them.

I do hope we get 2nd gen vaccines that are more sterilizing or that this liver drug touted by Univ of Cambridge and used off brand actually can help prevent the disease. I'd love to get back to some old ways of life, but fully acknowledge it's not all going to be like it was. Climate change means more dramatic life changes and sadly, pandemics, so I'm trying to teach my kids resiliency, kindness, and most of all to love life and being a kid as much as possible.

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Anonymous wrote:What do expect people to do?
- Is it just about getting people to get a booster?
- wear a mask indefinitely (in which settings? A full day at school/work? Just the grocery store?)
- avoid any "optional" indoor social activities?
- Pull children out from in-person school/daycare?

It's virtue signaling. They've made their personality about COVID and can't let it go. They just love to prove to everyone that they're such a great person by wearing a mask and avoiding crowds!

Thankfully, I don't see anyone on my FB feed going on and on about COVID. I haven't seen anything from my friends on COVID in months. It's just here on DCUM where I see the hand wringing. IRL, I don't know anyone who cares about this anymore.

At this point it seems to be mostly this. And the specific ppl I know who do this had some anxiety and attention-seekimg tendencies pre-Covid.

I am actually pretty cautious myself but I don't post about it on FB etc. Mostly bc I know nobody cares about my opinion of how they should conduct their lives, ha.

I see there is a PP who is a HCW and I did have one HCW friend who feels similarly that ppl take these gratuitous risks and then HCWs bear the burden of overcrowded hospitals, extra shifts etc and it's exhausting and unfair and sucks. Which totally makes sense. But I haven't seen any HCWs I personally know posting about it on FB etc anymore. Seems more like ppl without much else going on.

OP here. Yes, this is the thing. Why do people feel they need to make pronouncements about what public health measures everyone else should be taking? That is what public health officials are for, and if you don't like what they are saying, take it up with them. Everyone knows about COVID. We've all made our choices, whether you like them or not. We have our reasons, some good, some bad. Random posts on social media are not going to change anyone's behavior.

Why don’t you consider why this actually bothers you? If you’re secure in your behavior, you shouldn’t care what someone else posts on SM about COVID precautions.

Hit the unfollow button and keep it moving.

Sorry you don't think I should have posted about it. Why did you click on the thread if you think this topic is so silly? Stop posting here and keep it moving.

Nope. See I’m commenting on an actual post. Which is what you should be doing to the ones that bother you. Instead you run to another site and start a complaint thread.

Looks like I hit the nail on the head though that people are commenting on things you’re actually not secure about.

Sounds to me like you are pushing made up rules about who can post what on DCUM because you are bothered by what I posted. Where do your insecurities come from?

This is rich. You made a post complaining about what someone else posts on SM. Then proceed to complain when others comment on your post here. This isn’t an echo chamber so you’re going to have to deal with other people posting here.

You can post all you want but making up rules to suggest I should not have posted in the first place is a dumb non-argument. Sorry you don't like getting called out.

I love your double standards. You’ve been trying to push others of the thread because you don’t like their feedback. It’s ok for you, right?

She's just pissed that a friend she actually likes has made it oh-so clear that she doesn't respect OP's behavior during the pandemic, and probably doesn't care about alienating her through her comments on social media. OP is too passive to bring it up, but doesn't want to walk away because she actually likes this person and can't figure out why they don't like her anymore. So OP lashes out at anyone who is Covid cautious instead of dealing with the person she is intimidated by. Sigh...

Across town, someone's 2nd grader is being forced outside for lunch each day and they lock the cafeteria doors behind him with a resounding "slam"... But seriously - I don't know of any public school doing anything like this, so it sounds like a bit of dramatic reportage.

OP here. At least half of my close friends are COVID cautious. We don't see each other a lot in the winter, which I understand and respect. They also don't tell me to "take COVID seriously". Mutual respect is a great thing.

What if they asked to see you in the winter for a couple hours at their house, masked inside? To me, a friendship is give and take. I don't expect my friends to do all the precautions that I am, but the notion that if asked to mask inside you would rather stay home doesn't ring of mutual respect. I will go anywhere inside with a mask, and I'd love it someone came to my house and was okay wearing a mask for an hour or so. I also love hanging out outdoors no matter the season, but not everyone likes being outside in the cold either.

My COVID cautious friends do not want to socialize masked indoors any more than I do. I think you are assuming a lot of people want to socialize with masks, and it seems quite apparent to me that most people do not (as in they too would rather stay home). One of our friends is extremely high risk and I initially always put on a mask even to see them outdoors. But they did not and even if I went in their house they insisted not to worry about it.

I disagree with you here - there are still many who prefer to socialize than not. I wouldn't make any assumptions unless you have clarified it with an individual.

I mean I've signaled quite clearly that I'm willing to wear a mask by wearing a mask around them even outdoors. They are close friends and of course I don't want them to feel isolated, even if I won't enjoy it. But, they prefer outdoors and also don't like cold weather. I respect that (unlike you, who seems to think only baaad people don't like masks). I'm also not going to sign up for a social activity that doesn't involve close friends, that requires me to mask. It's a personal preference.

What's with the ad hominem? I wear masks for my protection, not because I like it. You seem to have a complex that everyone thinks you are a bad person, when I haven't seen people say that.

I've told you multiple times that my COVID cautious friends do not want to socialize indoors with masks. You implied I was making assumptions about them, which is false.

No, I was just saying you seemed to be extrapolating that almost no one wants to socialize with a mask. I believe you that your friends feel that way, but I wouldn't apply it so broadly to society, that was my only point.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm at the live and let live phase of this. I don't understand people playing with their long term health, but I also realize people draw different conclusions and public health messaging has not exactly been stellar. I'm not posting any warnings to people, and only ever discuss it on this health board from time to time. I know people judge my family for masking, but oh well, it's not like I'm going to change because of them.

I do hope we get 2nd gen vaccines that are more sterilizing or that this liver drug touted by Univ of Cambridge and used off brand actually can help prevent the disease. I'd love to get back to some old ways of life, but fully acknowledge it's not all going to be like it was. Climate change means more dramatic life changes and sadly, pandemics, so I'm trying to teach my kids resiliency, kindness, and most of all to love life and being a kid as much as possible.

What does it mean to you for a person to be "playing with their long-term health"?

One could argue anyone who gets into a car is "playing with death". It's all a risk-benefit calculation. If it's masks you're concerned with, wearing a mask is a different experience for different people. I buy that some people truly aren't bothered by them. They are really uncomfortable for me, and I know for many people. I'm willing to and do wear one in limited situations, but not for a full day of work.

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Anonymous wrote:What do expect people to do?
- Is it just about getting people to get a booster?
- wear a mask indefinitely (in which settings? A full day at school/work? Just the grocery store?)
- avoid any "optional" indoor social activities?
- Pull children out from in-person school/daycare?

It's virtue signaling. They've made their personality about COVID and can't let it go. They just love to prove to everyone that they're such a great person by wearing a mask and avoiding crowds!

Thankfully, I don't see anyone on my FB feed going on and on about COVID. I haven't seen anything from my friends on COVID in months. It's just here on DCUM where I see the hand wringing. IRL, I don't know anyone who cares about this anymore.

At this point it seems to be mostly this. And the specific ppl I know who do this had some anxiety and attention-seekimg tendencies pre-Covid.

I am actually pretty cautious myself but I don't post about it on FB etc. Mostly bc I know nobody cares about my opinion of how they should conduct their lives, ha.

I see there is a PP who is a HCW and I did have one HCW friend who feels similarly that ppl take these gratuitous risks and then HCWs bear the burden of overcrowded hospitals, extra shifts etc and it's exhausting and unfair and sucks. Which totally makes sense. But I haven't seen any HCWs I personally know posting about it on FB etc anymore. Seems more like ppl without much else going on.

OP here. Yes, this is the thing. Why do people feel they need to make pronouncements about what public health measures everyone else should be taking? That is what public health officials are for, and if you don't like what they are saying, take it up with them. Everyone knows about COVID. We've all made our choices, whether you like them or not. We have our reasons, some good, some bad. Random posts on social media are not going to change anyone's behavior.

Why don’t you consider why this actually bothers you? If you’re secure in your behavior, you shouldn’t care what someone else posts on SM about COVID precautions.

Hit the unfollow button and keep it moving.

Sorry you don't think I should have posted about it. Why did you click on the thread if you think this topic is so silly? Stop posting here and keep it moving.

Nope. See I’m commenting on an actual post. Which is what you should be doing to the ones that bother you. Instead you run to another site and start a complaint thread.

Looks like I hit the nail on the head though that people are commenting on things you’re actually not secure about.

Sounds to me like you are pushing made up rules about who can post what on DCUM because you are bothered by what I posted. Where do your insecurities come from?

This is rich. You made a post complaining about what someone else posts on SM. Then proceed to complain when others comment on your post here. This isn’t an echo chamber so you’re going to have to deal with other people posting here.

You can post all you want but making up rules to suggest I should not have posted in the first place is a dumb non-argument. Sorry you don't like getting called out.

I love your double standards. You’ve been trying to push others of the thread because you don’t like their feedback. It’s ok for you, right?

She's just pissed that a friend she actually likes has made it oh-so clear that she doesn't respect OP's behavior during the pandemic, and probably doesn't care about alienating her through her comments on social media. OP is too passive to bring it up, but doesn't want to walk away because she actually likes this person and can't figure out why they don't like her anymore. So OP lashes out at anyone who is Covid cautious instead of dealing with the person she is intimidated by. Sigh...

Across town, someone's 2nd grader is being forced outside for lunch each day and they lock the cafeteria doors behind him with a resounding "slam"... But seriously - I don't know of any public school doing anything like this, so it sounds like a bit of dramatic reportage.

OP here. At least half of my close friends are COVID cautious. We don't see each other a lot in the winter, which I understand and respect. They also don't tell me to "take COVID seriously". Mutual respect is a great thing.

What if they asked to see you in the winter for a couple hours at their house, masked inside? To me, a friendship is give and take. I don't expect my friends to do all the precautions that I am, but the notion that if asked to mask inside you would rather stay home doesn't ring of mutual respect. I will go anywhere inside with a mask, and I'd love it someone came to my house and was okay wearing a mask for an hour or so. I also love hanging out outdoors no matter the season, but not everyone likes being outside in the cold either.

My COVID cautious friends do not want to socialize masked indoors any more than I do. I think you are assuming a lot of people want to socialize with masks, and it seems quite apparent to me that most people do not (as in they too would rather stay home). One of our friends is extremely high risk and I initially always put on a mask even to see them outdoors. But they did not and even if I went in their house they insisted not to worry about it.

I disagree with you here - there are still many who prefer to socialize than not. I wouldn't make any assumptions unless you have clarified it with an individual.

I mean I've signaled quite clearly that I'm willing to wear a mask by wearing a mask around them even outdoors. They are close friends and of course I don't want them to feel isolated, even if I won't enjoy it. But, they prefer outdoors and also don't like cold weather. I respect that (unlike you, who seems to think only baaad people don't like masks). I'm also not going to sign up for a social activity that doesn't involve close friends, that requires me to mask. It's a personal preference.

What's with the ad hominem? I wear masks for my protection, not because I like it. You seem to have a complex that everyone thinks you are a bad person, when I haven't seen people say that.

I've told you multiple times that my COVID cautious friends do not want to socialize indoors with masks. You implied I was making assumptions about them, which is false.

No, I was just saying you seemed to be extrapolating that almost no one wants to socialize with a mask. I believe you that your friends feel that way, but I wouldn't apply it so broadly to society, that was my only point.

Unless you've conducted a rigorous survey of people's preferences with regards to masks in social situations, we are both making assumptions. Just different ones.

You told me "I wouldn't make any assumptions unless you have clarified it with an individual." I don't approach social situations by assuming anything about anyone's mask preferences. I'm simply stating what I've observed in the people I see and interact with.

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Why again are you afraid to have this discussion with your friends?

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Anonymous wrote:Why again are you afraid to have this discussion with your friends?

Asked and answered

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Anonymous wrote:Why again are you afraid to have this discussion with your friends?

Asked and answered

Right. Your drama.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many are hypochondriacs who don’t understand basic math or statistics or what actually supports good health (such as exercising, diet, being outside, social connections, etc)

Many are fat and out of shape. They might drink alcohol regularly or be on prescription medication. This is all much more dangerous to the health of a non-elderly person than Covid. I find it strange.

Actually a lot of previously healthy people now have long Covid, and many people are also disabled from it. I'm not on social media posting about precautions, but it's frustrating when people act like Covid is nothing.

It's interesting- I personally know dozens of people who have had Covid, but I don't know a single person who has long Covid. When I hear people say that long Covid is common, I just don't see it.

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Anonymous wrote:So basically, DCUM and this forum in particular. I think your answer is in your question.

No, actually I'm referring to other sites (FB/Instagram/Twitter).

Occasionally people I know will pronounce that people should "take COVID seriously". And I'm like, okay, what does that mean to you? Are you avoiding all holiday gatherings this year? It affects my personal interactions with them (e.g. I'd otherwise invite them to indoor events/activities but don't feel like being judged).

And on Twitter there seem to be some people who literally post snarky comments about people not being worried enough about COVID. I don't know if these are bots or just very bored people. It's just perplexing to me. I don't understand what their expectation is.

As someone who is cautious about covid, I recommend you still invite people who seem cautious, but send a follow up text saying, "I understand if you are still being cautious about covid and don't want to come, but just wanted to give you the option in case you feel comfortable."

My friend invited me to her indoor wedding, I declined, she said she wasn't surprised but just wanted to invite me in case I felt comfortable.

I had friends who weren't inviting me to small outdoor backyard hang outs because they thought I wouldn't come, but I would have gone and worn a mask. Indoor holiday parties? Not going.

I would love to do that, but these people are explicitly posting that they think anyone who is not "taking COVID seriously" does not "care about others".

I have friends who are cautious and of course we invite them and also look for opportunities to socialize outdoors with them. They have never expressed judgment of people who don't take the same precautions they do. I'm talking about people who publicize judgmental, vague opinions about how they think people should be behaving. And maybe the answer is I should just not bother to try to maintain this connection.

I’m sorry OP. Unfortunately I made this decision about some people I’m friends with (or was friends with at any rate) awhile ago. I decided I didn’t have space in my life for overly negative, judgmental people and I’ve gone back to “casual acquaintance” status with them.

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Anonymous wrote:What do expect people to do?
- Is it just about getting people to get a booster?
- wear a mask indefinitely (in which settings? A full day at school/work? Just the grocery store?)
- avoid any "optional" indoor social activities?
- Pull children out from in-person school/daycare?

It's virtue signaling. They've made their personality about COVID and can't let it go. They just love to prove to everyone that they're such a great person by wearing a mask and avoiding crowds!

Thankfully, I don't see anyone on my FB feed going on and on about COVID. I haven't seen anything from my friends on COVID in months. It's just here on DCUM where I see the hand wringing. IRL, I don't know anyone who cares about this anymore.

At this point it seems to be mostly this. And the specific ppl I know who do this had some anxiety and attention-seekimg tendencies pre-Covid.

I am actually pretty cautious myself but I don't post about it on FB etc. Mostly bc I know nobody cares about my opinion of how they should conduct their lives, ha.

I see there is a PP who is a HCW and I did have one HCW friend who feels similarly that ppl take these gratuitous risks and then HCWs bear the burden of overcrowded hospitals, extra shifts etc and it's exhausting and unfair and sucks. Which totally makes sense. But I haven't seen any HCWs I personally know posting about it on FB etc anymore. Seems more like ppl without much else going on.

OP here. Yes, this is the thing. Why do people feel they need to make pronouncements about what public health measures everyone else should be taking? That is what public health officials are for, and if you don't like what they are saying, take it up with them. Everyone knows about COVID. We've all made our choices, whether you like them or not. We have our reasons, some good, some bad. Random posts on social media are not going to change anyone's behavior.

Why don’t you consider why this actually bothers you? If you’re secure in your behavior, you shouldn’t care what someone else posts on SM about COVID precautions.

Hit the unfollow button and keep it moving.

Sorry you don't think I should have posted about it. Why did you click on the thread if you think this topic is so silly? Stop posting here and keep it moving.

Nope. See I’m commenting on an actual post. Which is what you should be doing to the ones that bother you. Instead you run to another site and start a complaint thread.

Looks like I hit the nail on the head though that people are commenting on things you’re actually not secure about.

Sounds to me like you are pushing made up rules about who can post what on DCUM because you are bothered by what I posted. Where do your insecurities come from?

This is rich. You made a post complaining about what someone else posts on SM. Then proceed to complain when others comment on your post here. This isn’t an echo chamber so you’re going to have to deal with other people posting here.

You can post all you want but making up rules to suggest I should not have posted in the first place is a dumb non-argument. Sorry you don't like getting called out.

I love your double standards. You’ve been trying to push others of the thread because you don’t like their feedback. It’s ok for you, right?

She's just pissed that a friend she actually likes has made it oh-so clear that she doesn't respect OP's behavior during the pandemic, and probably doesn't care about alienating her through her comments on social media. OP is too passive to bring it up, but doesn't want to walk away because she actually likes this person and can't figure out why they don't like her anymore. So OP lashes out at anyone who is Covid cautious instead of dealing with the person she is intimidated by. Sigh...

Across town, someone's 2nd grader is being forced outside for lunch each day and they lock the cafeteria doors behind him with a resounding "slam"... But seriously - I don't know of any public school doing anything like this, so it sounds like a bit of dramatic reportage.

OP here. At least half of my close friends are COVID cautious. We don't see each other a lot in the winter, which I understand and respect. They also don't tell me to "take COVID seriously". Mutual respect is a great thing.

What if they asked to see you in the winter for a couple hours at their house, masked inside? To me, a friendship is give and take. I don't expect my friends to do all the precautions that I am, but the notion that if asked to mask inside you would rather stay home doesn't ring of mutual respect. I will go anywhere inside with a mask, and I'd love it someone came to my house and was okay wearing a mask for an hour or so. I also love hanging out outdoors no matter the season, but not everyone likes being outside in the cold either.

My COVID cautious friends do not want to socialize masked indoors any more than I do. I think you are assuming a lot of people want to socialize with masks, and it seems quite apparent to me that most people do not (as in they too would rather stay home). One of our friends is extremely high risk and I initially always put on a mask even to see them outdoors. But they did not and even if I went in their house they insisted not to worry about it.

NP. I think there's a lot of self-selection going on. The highly cautious have kind of dropped out of social activities, because few people are willing to socialize in masks. I always turned down invitations to social events where masks were required. I'd much rather hang out with people who aren't that cautious, or even just stay home instead.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many are hypochondriacs who don’t understand basic math or statistics or what actually supports good health (such as exercising, diet, being outside, social connections, etc)

Many are fat and out of shape. They might drink alcohol regularly or be on prescription medication. This is all much more dangerous to the health of a non-elderly person than Covid. I find it strange.

Actually a lot of previously healthy people now have long Covid, and many people are also disabled from it. I'm not on social media posting about precautions, but it's frustrating when people act like Covid is nothing.

It's interesting- I personally know dozens of people who have had Covid, but I don't know a single person who has long Covid. When I hear people say that long Covid is common, I just don't see it.

I know three people with long COVID but none where it has been disabling.

It's frustrating to me when people act like COVID precautions have no negative effects, especially on young children.

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Anonymous wrote:Op, what is your point beyond to start drama? Covid is over for you but some of us don’t have your privilege to declare it over and stop being careful.

Such a helpful, constructive comment

So, what is your point?