Armed robbery - Apple Store Bethesda Row

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Time to move to Florida.

People robbed at gun point outside Apple Store in Miami
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wsvn.com/news/local/miami-dade/couple-robbed-at-gunpoint-behind-lincoln-road-apple-store/amp/

Smash and grab at Apple Store in Jacksonville
https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/crime/2017/05/17/jacksonville-s-apple-store-victim-pricey-smash-and-grab-burglary/15755384007/

$500K iPhone theft ring based out of Ft Lauderdale mall
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/miami/news/police-bust-500k-iphone-theft-ring-operating-in-mall-apple-store/

Thieves go where the valuables are.

FL will be underwater.

Finally someone else admits this.

there are many who think this, including some climatologists.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Because then people will have to realize that voting for the council and county exec who are allowing this to happen was the wrong thing and they would never admit that.

The county council has nothing to do with this. You sound insane.

The CE and Council cut 25 police officer positions just for sh*ts and giggles. There was no reason to do so. But "defund the police" was all the rage. Jawando in particular thinks a smaller leaner police force is what we need, because he has absolutely no clue how policing works. The Council has enacted something like 20 different police reform requirements that weren't really needed, which has completely paralyzed the department as they try to implement them with inadequate funding and staffing. And that leaves exactly zero time to be innovative or forward thinking like they used to be. And surrounding jurisdictions are passing us by with much better, more efficient crime control methods.

Look, even DC's crime is down overall. Ours is not.
https://mpdc.dc.gov/node/197622

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Thank you, PP. Yes, the county council is directly responsible for this. They continue to call for a smaller police force with fewer powers. That’s in their written Task Force plan. Montgomery County is a great place to commit crime now. There’s few police, and the ones that remain have few powers. That is 100%, directly a result of county council reforms.

Why commit a crime in a neighboring jurisdiction when you can commit it in Montgomery County with zero consequences?

Lol which is it … they cut positions or they recruit but can’t hire?

You guys need to get your story straight.

There was no inconsistency in what PP said. Council cut funded positions but it’s largely a moot point/empty political stunt because the County can’t hire for the positions it does have funded. No one wants this job. I know police officers and it’s wildly demoralizing to have people act like you are a racist (even if you’re black!) just for being a cop. Admittedly, some got into it for the wrong reasons and/or had poor training, but that’s not the majority of the MoCo cops.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Because then people will have to realize that voting for the council and county exec who are allowing this to happen was the wrong thing and they would never admit that.

The county council has nothing to do with this. You sound insane.

The CE and Council cut 25 police officer positions just for sh*ts and giggles. There was no reason to do so. But "defund the police" was all the rage. Jawando in particular thinks a smaller leaner police force is what we need, because he has absolutely no clue how policing works. The Council has enacted something like 20 different police reform requirements that weren't really needed, which has completely paralyzed the department as they try to implement them with inadequate funding and staffing. And that leaves exactly zero time to be innovative or forward thinking like they used to be. And surrounding jurisdictions are passing us by with much better, more efficient crime control methods.

Look, even DC's crime is down overall. Ours is not.
https://mpdc.dc.gov/node/197622

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Thank you, PP. Yes, the county council is directly responsible for this. They continue to call for a smaller police force with fewer powers. That’s in their written Task Force plan. Montgomery County is a great place to commit crime now. There’s few police, and the ones that remain have few powers. That is 100%, directly a result of county council reforms.

Why commit a crime in a neighboring jurisdiction when you can commit it in Montgomery County with zero consequences?

Lol which is it … they cut positions or they recruit but can’t hire?

You guys need to get your story straight.

There was no inconsistency in what PP said. Council cut funded positions but it’s largely a moot point/empty political stunt because the County can’t hire for the positions it does have funded. No one wants this job. I know police officers and it’s wildly demoralizing to have people act like you are a racist (even if you’re black!) just for being a cop. Admittedly, some got into it for the wrong reasons and/or had poor training, but that’s not the majority of the MoCo cops.

I know police officers and judges and state’s attorneys.

There’s a lot of BS that was going on in moco and it’s being called out (now can we clean out the state’s attorney office) and brought to justice. Only the racist cops are worried and there are quite a few. Marky mark et.Al can use fake names online and pretend they aren’t cops as they make racist posts but it’s easy to figure out which cops they are.

It better not be 50%+ FFS, if that’s your measure of success … at least < 1/2 are not racist that’s sad.

There is not 1 cop that has not seen bad behavior and not reported it so even the good cops are culpable.

Nobody wants the job because it needs reform. We have cops doing jobs that don’t need cops.

P.S. black people can be racist.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Because then people will have to realize that voting for the council and county exec who are allowing this to happen was the wrong thing and they would never admit that.

The county council has nothing to do with this. You sound insane.

The CE and Council cut 25 police officer positions just for sh*ts and giggles. There was no reason to do so. But "defund the police" was all the rage. Jawando in particular thinks a smaller leaner police force is what we need, because he has absolutely no clue how policing works. The Council has enacted something like 20 different police reform requirements that weren't really needed, which has completely paralyzed the department as they try to implement them with inadequate funding and staffing. And that leaves exactly zero time to be innovative or forward thinking like they used to be. And surrounding jurisdictions are passing us by with much better, more efficient crime control methods.

Look, even DC's crime is down overall. Ours is not.
https://mpdc.dc.gov/node/197622

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Thank you, PP. Yes, the county council is directly responsible for this. They continue to call for a smaller police force with fewer powers. That’s in their written Task Force plan. Montgomery County is a great place to commit crime now. There’s few police, and the ones that remain have few powers. That is 100%, directly a result of county council reforms.

Why commit a crime in a neighboring jurisdiction when you can commit it in Montgomery County with zero consequences?

Lol which is it … they cut positions or they recruit but can’t hire?

You guys need to get your story straight.

Um… it’s both?

They cut positions and MCPD *still* can’t recruit enough people. This isn’t hard. MCPD was a stellar department until the council decided to ruin it.

Lol, yea stellar, hardly.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Because then people will have to realize that voting for the council and county exec who are allowing this to happen was the wrong thing and they would never admit that.

The county council has nothing to do with this. You sound insane.

The CE and Council cut 25 police officer positions just for sh*ts and giggles. There was no reason to do so. But "defund the police" was all the rage. Jawando in particular thinks a smaller leaner police force is what we need, because he has absolutely no clue how policing works. The Council has enacted something like 20 different police reform requirements that weren't really needed, which has completely paralyzed the department as they try to implement them with inadequate funding and staffing. And that leaves exactly zero time to be innovative or forward thinking like they used to be. And surrounding jurisdictions are passing us by with much better, more efficient crime control methods.

Look, even DC's crime is down overall. Ours is not.
https://mpdc.dc.gov/node/197622

+1
Thank you, PP. Yes, the county council is directly responsible for this. They continue to call for a smaller police force with fewer powers. That’s in their written Task Force plan. Montgomery County is a great place to commit crime now. There’s few police, and the ones that remain have few powers. That is 100%, directly a result of county council reforms.

Why commit a crime in a neighboring jurisdiction when you can commit it in Montgomery County with zero consequences?

Lol which is it … they cut positions or they recruit but can’t hire?

You guys need to get your story straight.

There was no inconsistency in what PP said. Council cut funded positions but it’s largely a moot point/empty political stunt because the County can’t hire for the positions it does have funded. No one wants this job. I know police officers and it’s wildly demoralizing to have people act like you are a racist (even if you’re black!) just for being a cop. Admittedly, some got into it for the wrong reasons and/or had poor training, but that’s not the majority of the MoCo cops.

I know police officers and judges and state’s attorneys.

There’s a lot of BS that was going on in moco and it’s being called out (now can we clean out the state’s attorney office) and brought to justice. Only the racist cops are worried and there are quite a few. Marky mark et.Al can use fake names online and pretend they aren’t cops as they make racist posts but it’s easy to figure out which cops they are.

It better not be 50%+ FFS, if that’s your measure of success … at least < 1/2 are not racist that’s sad.

There is not 1 cop that has not seen bad behavior and not reported it so even the good cops are culpable.

Nobody wants the job because it needs reform. We have cops doing jobs that don’t need cops.

P.S. black people can be racist.

Let’s see you point to the “BS in MoCo” that’s being called out now. I follow county politics very closely and have seen absolutely nothing that would support your statements above about “quite a few” racist officers, etc.

You’re wrong on some many counts. People don’t want the job because they can work with more support and respect in neighboring counties… ALL neighboring counties. Again: this is the council’s doing.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Yes it's normal. There is always crime near restaurants, bars and banks.

There was murder at lulu lemon in bethesda years ago, a rape in the parking lot garage is not uncommon.

You don't hear about white on white crime. This must be black on black crime, which is why it is being reported.

Oh, please. The attempted carjacking in a Bethesda parking garage a few months back was white-on-white. But I’m voting Black - Riordan Sully Sullivan has the endorsement of the police. Crime is out of control in affluent areas and it is underreported due to concern about property values.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

There was a shooting with injury at the Flagship Carwash up on Hungerford yesterday around 6pm. Then another shooting at Pike and Rose about 9pm yesterday.

If you look at Data Montgomery, there have been 20 shootings in October alone.

I had no idea.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

There was a shooting with injury at the Flagship Carwash up on Hungerford yesterday around 6pm. Then another shooting at Pike and Rose about 9pm yesterday.

If you look at Data Montgomery, there have been 20 shootings in October alone.

I had no idea.

Not much news coverage of these incidents. I actually saw an article specifically saying that the reports of increased crime at Montgomery Mall are false. LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Because then people will have to realize that voting for the council and county exec who are allowing this to happen was the wrong thing and they would never admit that.

The county council has nothing to do with this. You sound insane.

The CE and Council cut 25 police officer positions just for sh*ts and giggles. There was no reason to do so. But "defund the police" was all the rage. Jawando in particular thinks a smaller leaner police force is what we need, because he has absolutely no clue how policing works. The Council has enacted something like 20 different police reform requirements that weren't really needed, which has completely paralyzed the department as they try to implement them with inadequate funding and staffing. And that leaves exactly zero time to be innovative or forward thinking like they used to be. And surrounding jurisdictions are passing us by with much better, more efficient crime control methods.

Look, even DC's crime is down overall. Ours is not.
https://mpdc.dc.gov/node/197622

+1
Thank you, PP. Yes, the county council is directly responsible for this. They continue to call for a smaller police force with fewer powers. That’s in their written Task Force plan. Montgomery County is a great place to commit crime now. There’s few police, and the ones that remain have few powers. That is 100%, directly a result of county council reforms.

Why commit a crime in a neighboring jurisdiction when you can commit it in Montgomery County with zero consequences?

Lol which is it … they cut positions or they recruit but can’t hire?

You guys need to get your story straight.

There was no inconsistency in what PP said. Council cut funded positions but it’s largely a moot point/empty political stunt because the County can’t hire for the positions it does have funded. No one wants this job. I know police officers and it’s wildly demoralizing to have people act like you are a racist (even if you’re black!) just for being a cop. Admittedly, some got into it for the wrong reasons and/or had poor training, but that’s not the majority of the MoCo cops.

I know police officers and judges and state’s attorneys.

There’s a lot of BS that was going on in moco and it’s being called out (now can we clean out the state’s attorney office) and brought to justice. Only the racist cops are worried and there are quite a few. Marky mark et.Al can use fake names online and pretend they aren’t cops as they make racist posts but it’s easy to figure out which cops they are.

It better not be 50%+ FFS, if that’s your measure of success … at least < 1/2 are not racist that’s sad.

There is not 1 cop that has not seen bad behavior and not reported it so even the good cops are culpable.

Nobody wants the job because it needs reform. We have cops doing jobs that don’t need cops.

P.S. black people can be racist.

Let’s see you point to the “BS in MoCo” that’s being called out now. I follow county politics very closely and have seen absolutely nothing that would support your statements above about “quite a few” racist officers, etc.

You’re wrong on some many counts. People don’t want the job because they can work with more support and respect in neighboring counties… ALL neighboring counties. Again: this is the council’s doing.

Oh so you don’t actually know cops.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Because then people will have to realize that voting for the council and county exec who are allowing this to happen was the wrong thing and they would never admit that.

The county council has nothing to do with this. You sound insane.

DP

Are you saying that local politicians have no influence over crime? I disagree. Crime can increase or decrease as a direct result of public policies that are out in place by our local politicians.

You do truly get what you vote for.

People who have food, housing and opportunity do not commit crime. When you have those things there is less crime. Yes I am saying our council has not negatively affected these things beyond what has happened with a global pandemic and inflations caused by corporate greed.

Montgomery County offers food, housing and plenty of opportunities to anyone who want to avail themselves of these services. Yet, there has still been an increase in violent crime. Please explain how giving away more free things will help alleviate the crime issue.

Please post some affordable housing.

Anyone? lol... can you post a job that anybody can get that pays a living wage?

Nobody has suggested giving away anything for free, your damaged brain and inability to think has read into my post to say people are asking for free stuff, nobody is asking for free stuff.

Here's a list of affordable housing:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/DHCA/housing/singlefamily/mpdu/programrental.html

MoCo has a $15/hour minimum wage.

Tell me you have never had to apply for this program without telling me ... go ahead, apply and put down you make $15/hr and tell me which apartment complex approves you to rent.

Most jobs (unskilled) start at around $20 per hour.

Unchecked robberies and theft simply cost you and me more money and unchecked robberies and theft is inflationary.

Retailers cover the shrinkage (theft) by increasing prices.

Retail theft should concern every honest tax paying citizen who works a job.

Actually, white collar criminals and corporate greed cost me more than some rando theft at some store. Why don't we report on that?

White collar criminals cost us $1B a day, corporate greed is why food and gas prices are high.

Okay call one of those apartments and tell them you make $20/hr and see if they rent you an apartment. Also find me somebody that makes $20 with good credit, did you even read the website you posted?

Two wrongs don’t make a right. I agree with you about corporate greed, but those people aren’t pulling Gold Glocks out during Homecoming season, when there were scores of teens walking about. I was there too.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

There was a shooting with injury at the Flagship Carwash up on Hungerford yesterday around 6pm. Then another shooting at Pike and Rose about 9pm yesterday.

If you look at Data Montgomery, there have been 20 shootings in October alone.

I had no idea.

It’s still down significantly since the 80’s/90’s/2000’s.

Last time it was lower was 1970’s.

It’s higher due to a pandemic not policies.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

Because then people will have to realize that voting for the council and county exec who are allowing this to happen was the wrong thing and they would never admit that.

The county council has nothing to do with this. You sound insane.

DP

Are you saying that local politicians have no influence over crime? I disagree. Crime can increase or decrease as a direct result of public policies that are out in place by our local politicians.

You do truly get what you vote for.

People who have food, housing and opportunity do not commit crime. When you have those things there is less crime. Yes I am saying our council has not negatively affected these things beyond what has happened with a global pandemic and inflations caused by corporate greed.

Montgomery County offers food, housing and plenty of opportunities to anyone who want to avail themselves of these services. Yet, there has still been an increase in violent crime. Please explain how giving away more free things will help alleviate the crime issue.

Please post some affordable housing.

Anyone? lol... can you post a job that anybody can get that pays a living wage?

Nobody has suggested giving away anything for free, your damaged brain and inability to think has read into my post to say people are asking for free stuff, nobody is asking for free stuff.

Here's a list of affordable housing:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/DHCA/housing/singlefamily/mpdu/programrental.html

MoCo has a $15/hour minimum wage.

Tell me you have never had to apply for this program without telling me ... go ahead, apply and put down you make $15/hr and tell me which apartment complex approves you to rent.

Most jobs (unskilled) start at around $20 per hour.

Unchecked robberies and theft simply cost you and me more money and unchecked robberies and theft is inflationary.

Retailers cover the shrinkage (theft) by increasing prices.

Retail theft should concern every honest tax paying citizen who works a job.

Actually, white collar criminals and corporate greed cost me more than some rando theft at some store. Why don't we report on that?

White collar criminals cost us $1B a day, corporate greed is why food and gas prices are high.

Okay call one of those apartments and tell them you make $20/hr and see if they rent you an apartment. Also find me somebody that makes $20 with good credit, did you even read the website you posted?

Two wrongs don’t make a right. I agree with you about corporate greed, but those people aren’t pulling Gold Glocks out during Homecoming season, when there were scores of teens walking about. I was there too.

County council policies don’t cause people to do that… poverty does.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

There was a shooting with injury at the Flagship Carwash up on Hungerford yesterday around 6pm. Then another shooting at Pike and Rose about 9pm yesterday.

If you look at Data Montgomery, there have been 20 shootings in October alone.

I had no idea.

It’s still down significantly since the 80’s/90’s/2000’s.

Last time it was lower was 1970’s.

It’s higher due to a pandemic not policies.

I’ll agree that pandemic has had an impact.
Increases from 2019 to 2021:
Aggravated assault - up 20%
Homicide - up 79%
Kidnapping / abduction - up 229%
That’s just the top of the list:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/Annual-Reports/CrimeandSafety/2021%20MCPD%20Annual%20Report%20on%20Crime%20and%20Safety.pdf

“Crimes against society” (public drinking, some drug offenses, etc) are down by 37%, which is consistent with the county exec’s task force saying that police should no longer respond to them. It doesn’t mean they don’t happen. They just won’t be reported.

Crime is up. That’s hard to deny.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people aren't talking more about this...looks like it was 6pm. Is this normal? I am often in that area with my kids at that time.

There was a shooting with injury at the Flagship Carwash up on Hungerford yesterday around 6pm. Then another shooting at Pike and Rose about 9pm yesterday.

If you look at Data Montgomery, there have been 20 shootings in October alone.

I had no idea.

Not much news coverage of these incidents. I actually saw an article specifically saying that the reports of increased crime at Montgomery Mall are false. LOL.

The person who reported the crimes at Montgomery Mall (a local blogger) was going from police dispatch data, which is public. Not all calls for X lead to an arrest for X, therefore you'll see a mismatch when comparing to arrest data. That doesn't mean the incident didn't occur, just no arrest or police report was filed.

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The inequity between the haves and the have-nots is at an all time high. The middle class has been squeezed too tight. There is no hope and no future for those at the bottom and they see crime as their only way. This is the result.