And students who put all of these eggs in this basket come from pressure cooker settings and don’t fare well in college |
I think it’s great the people who don’t need money aren’t spending extra money prepping for a test and driving up averages for scholarships they don’t need and others want |
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Don’t worry if you have never heard of the PSAT or NMSF I assure you you child’s top SLAC as well as most of the students within over the last 40 years!
It is not your fault that you are oblivious to this. |
| I assure you the vast majority of NMSF and NMF have comparable sterling grades in high school (and college for that matter if you speak with admissions personnel) so what this garbage about “prepping”? If you are bragging your kids never prep for tests, lacrosse, tennis, coursework, jobs, and football and their achievements are solely innate (+ $$$ donation) you know where you can lower your head. |
Neither. NMSF is one honor on what is hopefully, and likely, a full and well rounded resume. It isn't a singular admission test for college, obviously. Why would you want it to be? |
Most of the kids I know who were NMSF and NMF were simply that good. It did not begin in the 11th grade. They were already exhibiting precocious academic performance in primary school and continued on this trajectory as undergraduates and graduate and professional students. There’s really no need to allow your envy and jealousy to belittle accomplishments you, your family and children never attained. If the latter were true would you tarnish the accomplishments of your children with illogical and senseless babble and drivel? |
| Yes, the sticks and stones hurled at NMSF awardees are the convenient rationalization of those with kids that come up empty handed….a soothing balm to cushion perceived personal failings. Only GOD knows why these critters find it necessary to drag down another’s accomplishments, rather than shutting up, if complementing another (not your own) is far too difficult. |
| PP here. I did not realize this was a scholarship program. I never meant to diminish the accomplishments of these students. |
| Yes, you certainly did. |
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“PP here. I did not realize this was a scholarship program. I never meant to diminish the accomplishments of these students.”
Your comment may be perceived by me and others as disingenuous. What does NMSF being a scholarship program have to do with anything? Does your perspective change if this wasn’t a scholarship program? … and bright kids do what bright kids do with PSAT, SAT, ACT, AP exams, high school course work, USAMO, US physics Olympiad competition by simply hitting the ball clear out of the park? What’s wrong with that accomplishment? No different than hitting a baseball out of the park to your glowing and drunkard hollers and cheers! |
Where did you see me denigrating anyone? |
And the ones that are test optional - which is an increasing number - don't care about the SAT or the ACT. |
huh, interesting. actually i am south asian and was a NMSF back in the day, and the only other one in my grade was anothe SA girl. (i didn't prep btw, those sorts of tests just came naturally and I always enjoyed them.) |
| The Big3 my kid attends specifically says do not worry or prep for the PSAT, it is a practice test. Most kids treat it as such. Practice. |
Because diverse student bodies offer a better undergraduate experience than one with only academic grinds. This coming from someone who was admitted to HYPS schools solely due to academics. I would've hated college if everyone were just like me. The experience was so much better being around peers who were stars in their own non-academic areas -- whether athletics, arts, etc. but could also hold their own academically. I learned as much from them as from my professors. |